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 Post subject: Matt Gaetz In Hot Water
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yesterday, Tero wrote:
Looks like Matt Gaetz wasn't gay after all. Or maybe he likes young boys and girls?
In any case, McCarthy is taking him out of committees till he goes to court.

His 15 min of fame are over.
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Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) has spent the last year worrying about his association with former Seminole County Tax Collector Joel Greenberg, a friend of the Representative who looks to be a bad guy. Specifically, Greenberg has been charged with 14 federal crimes, including stalking a political rival, using government property to create fake IDs, and sex trafficking a minor. Because he violated the terms of his bail, Greenberg is currently a guest of the government as he awaits trial.

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Needless to say, association with someone that radioactive is a real problem for a politician, particularly if there are convictions. Most voters, Republican and Democrat, have little tolerance for sexual crimes against minors, as Roy Moore learned firsthand in Alabama a couple of years ago. So, Gaetz has been trying to distance himself from Greenberg.

Things just got a lot worse for the Congressman, though, as The New York Times reported on Tuesday that Gaetz himself is also under investigation for sex trafficking (and, for that matter, statutory rape). The specific claim is that he transported a 17-year-old girl across state lines, had a sexual relationship with her, and gave her money for living expenses and gifts. If the charges are true, and Gaetz' guilt can be proven in a court of law, then he would be sent away for a very long time.

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Gaetz, as is his wont, claims that he is an innocent victim of a vast conspiracy to extort him. His words: "Over the past several weeks my family and I have been victims of an organized criminal extortion involving a former DOJ official seeking $25 million while threatening to smear my name. We have been cooperating with federal authorities in this matter and my father has even been wearing a wire at the FBI's direction to catch these criminals." He also said that "I have a suspicion that someone is trying to recategorize my generosity to ex-girlfriends as something more untoward."

We'll see if Gaetz is telling the truth, but it's worth pointing out: (1) He's made a career of playing fast and loose with the facts; (2) the investigation of Gaetz was launched by former AG William Barr, who is hardly a member of the deep state; (3) the FBI refused to confirm Gaetz' claim about the wire; (4) the existence of extortion doesn't necessarily mean that the original crime never took place; and (5) the remark about "generosity to ex-girlfriends" certainly rings false.

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Even if Gaetz is exonerated in a court of law (or is never charged), he could still have a real problem in the court of public opinion. The next time he runs for office (assuming he does), his opponents are likely to bring this up once or twice. And again, voters tend to have very little tolerance for things like this. It's possible, depending on how things unfold, that he could keep his job representing the R+22 FL-01. But his future presidential aspirations, which were both obvious and dubious, are surely dead as a doornail now.

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The New York Times article :arrow: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/30/us/politics/matt-gaetz-sex-trafficking-investigation.html


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 Post subject: Gaetz' Troubles Mount
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Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) was in trouble enough when news broke that he was being investigated for allegedly having a multistate sexual relationship with a 17-year-old. If true, he'd be guilty of statutory rape and sex trafficking, which both carry hefty criminal penalties. If untrue (or true, but unproven), he's still likely to suffer serious political damage.

Things have not gotten better for the Representative since that news first broke. First of all, approximately nobody is buying his story that he's the victim of an extortion attempt, and that he and his father are working with the FBI to trap the guilty parties. And The Washington Post has now added more detail to the story that, if correct, would mean that Gaetz was indeed being dishonest. It appears that the truth is that someone did try to get money from the Gaetzes, but the money was to be used to continue the search for Robert A. Levinson, who was taken hostage in Iran in 2007 (and is widely presumed dead). The proposition, in essence, was that if Matt Gaetz' father Don found the money, and Levinson was located and repatriated, the positive press would help distract from the Congressman's legal woes. So Don did indeed wear a wire for the FBI, but he did so because the Bureau hoped to find information about its missing agent. That is rather different from what Matt Gaetz said (or, at least, strongly implied), namely that he was being blackmailed over his sexual past, and his father was helping to entrap the blackmailers.

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But wait, there's more. It would seem that the investigation into Gaetz is also looking into the possibility that the Congressman used campaign funds to pay for his sexual adventures. If true, that would be one or more additional felonies. He's innocent until proven guilty, of course, but given that his salary was just $29,697 annually before being elected to Congress (and $174,000 annually thereafter), it would certainly explain how he had the means to lavish gifts on his paramours (something that he admits to doing, even while insisting that none of them was underage). If convicted of improper use of campaign funds, Gaetz would be the second Trump-loving Republican member of the House to get caught with his hand in that particular cookie jar, following in the footsteps of Duncan Hunter.

And it does not end there. News also broke on Thursday that Gaetz was in the habit of whipping out his . . . phone, and showing Republican colleagues in the house nude photos of the women he'd slept with. That's not a crime (unless the women were underage, in which case add production and distribution of underage pornography to the list). However, if true, it does speak to a certain arrogance, and to a habit of peacocking that is consistent with a belief that "laws about sexual conduct do not apply to me" (consider the parallels to Donald "Grab 'em by the pussy" Trump). And, true or not, this is another thing that will not play well in the court of public opinion.

As Gaetz tries to weather the storm, not many of his colleagues are going to have his back, if any of them do. If your name is Trump, you can be as radioactive as Chernobyl, and it's apparently not a problem for most GOP politicians. But nobody else gets that privilege. Beyond his current criminal woes, which nobody wants to touch with a 10-foot pole, many of the Representative's colleagues are tired of his stunts, and don't much care for his personality. It's kind of like a particular senator whose last name also ends in 'Z.' Anyhow, nobody's going to be sticking their neck out to try to help save Gaetz. Indeed, it's worth pointing out that someone from the House Republican conference had to leak the story about the sharing of nude photos.

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It would appear that the Representative knew that he was about to grow too hot for Washington to handle, and was in negotiations to retire immediately from Congress and to accept a cushy job as a commentator for Newsmax. However, he's now damaged enough that Newsmax apparently doesn't want him. Fox News and OAN also helpfully weighed in, and said they're not interested, either. Further, in an attempt to save himself, Gaetz tried to make Tucker Carlson a part of the story, claiming that Carlson knew the woman at the center of the trafficking investigation, and can confirm she was of legal age. Carlson is apparently infuriated by this, and so the fellow who might have been cheerleader/propagandist #1 for the Representative will not be getting involved.

In short, there is a lot of smoke here. Think Mt. St. Helens-level smoke. And usually, with that much smoke, there is at least some fire. And maybe a lot of fire. In other words, do not go to PredictIt.com and invest in Matt Gaetz futures. If Gaetz departs Congress "for personal reasons," there will be a special election in FL-01 to replace him. His district is the westernmost one in the Florida panhandle, bordering on Alabama. It is R+22, so it might as well be part of Alabama. In fact, had it not been for some corrupt land deals back when Mississippi and Alabama were part of the state of Georgia, it might have been in Alabama. Culturally, it is still in Alabama.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/matt-gaetz-investigation-robert-levinson/2021/03/31/ebe2a9ba-923e-11eb-9668-89be11273c09_story.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/01/politics/matt-gaetz-campaign-funds-investigation/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/01/politics/matt-gaetz-photos-women/index.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/matt-gaetz-built-devoted-fan-base-has-few-friends-washington-n1262689
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/gaetz-considering-leaving-congress-for-role-at-newsmax-report/
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/545934-fox-has-no-interest-in-hiring-matt-gaetz
https://styleblueprint.com/everyday/did-florida-steal-rosemary-beach-from-alabama/


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If you thought that Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire on Tuesday, he was already in the fire. In any event, the latest (potentially) damning revelation about the Congressman, reported by The New York Times on Tuesday, was that Gaetz requested preemptive presidential pardons from Donald Trump in the waning days of the latter's term.

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Gaetz responded to this report in his usual fashion. Following the original story about alleged sex trafficking, he conceded that he had given generous gifts to ex-girlfriends, but that they were of the appropriate age, and anyone who says otherwise is just a partisan witch hunter. In response to Tuesday's story, he conceded that he had made a pardon phone call to Trump, but that it was to ask for pardons for everyone under the sun, including not only Gaetz but also Joe Exotic and several others, and that anyone who says otherwise is just a partisan witch hunter. He doth protest too much, some thinks. Some also thinks that he's admitting to an awfully large portion of the charges against him. And finally, some thinks that people who have kept their noses clean have no need to request pardons for themselves, preemptive or otherwise. The Times report notes that it's not clear whether or not Gaetz knew about the sex-trafficking and improper-use-of-campaign-funds investigations when he asked for the pardon, but he might have. If he did, then it's another mark against him. And if he didn't, then it raises the question: What did he think he needed a pardon for?

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Gaetz presumably thought he might get the pardons he wanted because he was one of Trump's staunchest defenders in the House, going so far as to offer to resign in order to lead the second impeachment defense. However, the Trumps know a master bullshitter and a user when they see one because they are themselves master bullshitters and users. The former president decided that Gaetz was toxic, and needed to be held at arm's length. That's quite an accomplishment; it's not easy to be too toxic for Donald Trump, a fellow who openly consorts with convicted felons, Russian operatives, white supremacists, and Eric Trump, among others. In any event, the pardons were not granted. And since the recent scandal broke, Trump World has been utterly silent on the matter, offering the Representative not one whit of support. He's still got the backing of enough of his constituents to keep his job (for now), but otherwise he's going to go this one largely alone, without the support of his colleagues, the Trumps, or the right-wing media.

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https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/06/politics/matt-gaetz-pardon-donald-trump/index.html
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There was more bad news for Gaetz on Thursday. His associate, Seminole County, Florida, tax collector Joel Greenberg, appears to have turned state's evidence, and to be working with federal prosecutors. Would the sort of fellow who engages in the trafficking of minors for sexual purposes be likely to flip on a "friend" to help save his own skin? Hmmmmm . . .

read all about it :arrow: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/08/key-figure-in-matt-gaetz-probe-likely-cooperating-with-federal-prosecutors-480289

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Former Rep. Katie Hill says it's 'gross' to think that Matt Gaetz defended her to possibly cover up for 'his own indiscretions'

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Two of the most embattled House Republicans, Reps. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) and Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), are not going gentle into that good night. They are doing the exact opposite: starting on an "America First" tour to demonstrate their Trumpiness. At the very least, it is a distraction from their other issues. Gaetz has been accused of transporting a minor across state lines for the purpose of engaging in sexual activity with her. This is a federal crime. Greene was stripped of her committee assignments for her racism and anti-Semitism.

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On Friday, the pair appeared together at The Villages, a conservative retirement community north of Orlando. There Gaetz said: "Today, we send a strong message to the weak establishment in both parties: America First isn't going away. We're going on tour." They plan on attacking RINOs, which in their world means Republicans who do not worship Donald Trump. Gaetz also whined that there is no due process for conservatives. Of course, if he is formally charged with a crime, he will get all the due process he wants in court. So far, that hasn't happened, though.

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Greene did her part, too. She asked the crowd if they thought Joe Biden actually won the election, which they answered with a resounding "no." She also attacked RINOs. The pair didn't say where their next stop would be.

read all about it :arrow: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/05/07/gaetz-greene-tour-485924


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Everyone knew this was coming, and on Monday it became official: Joel Greenberg, associate of and alleged procurer for Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL), has pleaded guilty to six different federal crimes, including sex-trafficking a minor, stalking, identity theft, and fraud of a federal taxpayer. He has agreed to "cooperate fully" with the feds as they pursue cases against anyone else...like, say, a certain congressman from Florida.

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There is zero question, then, that Greenberg is going to go before one (or more) judges and assert that he helped Gaetz recruit, transport across state lines, and pay underage girls for sex. Gaetz' lawyers, whose kids are going to have a fabulous Christmas this year, will try to tear Greenberg apart by arguing that he's a sleazeball (true) who has a vested interest in throwing his former buddy under the bus (also true). It's an honest-to-goodness, real life version of the prisoner's dilemma.

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Those who have vast experience reading between the lines of plea agreements are supposing that the lack of specific references to Gaetz in the lengthy document filed Monday suggests that Greenberg probably doesn't have hard evidence to back up his claims. Maybe so, but is it not possible the feds are playing their cards close to the vest, knowing how high-profile this case is, and how much legal talent the Gaetz family is going to unleash? In any event, even if Greenberg can't prove his claims, there is an ex-girlfriend of the Representative who is apparently willing and able to corroborate the story, assuming she can get immunity. So, Gaetz may want to invest in some waterproof clothing as he prepares for the increasing likelihood that he'll be taking a trip up the river.

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If Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) somehow dances his way out of all the legal trouble he's enmeshed in, that will be a more impressive demonstration of agility than the Yurchenko double pike that Simone Biles landed a couple of weeks ago. He's credibly accused, apparently with evidence, of some very serious crimes, including sex trafficking. His "wingman" has turned state's evidence, and his former girlfriend is reportedly about to do so. Oh, and it's also worth remembering that the feds don't generally go this far unless they are pretty certain they've got their quarry cornered.

Nonetheless, things managed to get even worse for the Representative last Thursday, as news broke that he's also being investigated for obstruction of justice. Reportedly, there was a three-way phone call involving Gaetz, the ex-girlfriend who is trying to get an immunity deal, and a third woman who might be a witness against the Representative. Gaetz may have coached the third woman to lie to or otherwise mislead the feds. If so, that is pretty much textbook obstruction. And it's possible that either the government or the ex-girlfriend has a recording of the call. Failing that, it's possible that the ex-girlfriend will testify as to the contents of the call, if she's able to reach an immunity deal. Indeed, this is apparently what is motivating her to bargain with the feds; she thinks that she might be exposed on obstruction of justice due to having been a party to the call.

The investigation into Gaetz seems to be awfully far along, so one wonders how much longer it can possibly be until he is indicted. That said, Democratic pooh-bahs are undoubtedly hoping for a nice, long, drawn-out process. They would love, love, love for this story to linger substantially into 2022, so they can run against the party of anti-Semites (Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-GA) and sex traffickers (Gaetz). That works less well if, say, he's already accepted a plea deal and is already cooling his jets at FCI Danbury or some other federal prison.


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Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL), as you may have heard, is in a little bit of hot water with the feds. He hasn't been charged with any crimes yet, but it's almost certainly just a matter of time. And ever since his legal woes began to mount, Gaetz has been plotting his congressional exit strategy. That included reaching out to Newsmax looking for a job, and thus a change of career. The Representative denied that he talked to the right-wing cable channel, but on Monday Newsmax confirmed that he did inquire, and that they are not interested.

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It is not common that someone gives up a seat in Congress for a cable TV job, particularly when the channel in question is second-tier, at best. However, a show on Newsmax would give Gaetz a daily platform to advocate for his innocence, and to paint himself as a victim of a justice system gone mad. Further, it would allow him to leave Congress voluntarily, as opposed to being forced to resign, or being tossed out by his colleagues. In short, he's acting like a man who knows he's in deep, deep trouble, and is trying to strategize his way through it.


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Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL), as you may have heard, is in a little bit of hot water with the feds. He hasn't been charged with any crimes yet, but it's almost certainly just a matter of time. And ever since his legal woes began to mount, Gaetz has been plotting his congressional exit strategy. That included reaching out to Newsmax looking for a job, and thus a change of career. The Representative denied that he talked to the right-wing cable channel, but on Monday Newsmax confirmed that he did inquire, and that they are not interested.

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It is not common that someone gives up a seat in Congress for a cable TV job, particularly when the channel in question is second-tier, at best. However, a show on Newsmax would give Gaetz a daily platform to advocate for his innocence, and to paint himself as a victim of a justice system gone mad. Further, it would allow him to leave Congress voluntarily, as opposed to being forced to resign, or being tossed out by his colleagues. In short, he's acting like a man who knows he's in deep, deep trouble, and is trying to strategize his way through it.


Who do you think is going to force him out? Certainly not the "anything goes (as long as it's one of our guys)" GOP.

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Regarding Reps. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) and Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA): One of them is an accused pedophile and sexual predator. The other is a proven racist, antisemite, and conspiracy theorist. Both seem to have zero interest in governance, and enormous interest in self-promotion and attracting the adoring attention of the MAGA crowd.

Right now, Congress' two most toxic members have joined forces for a tour of rallies and town halls that are meant to raise money for their reelection campaigns. It has not gone well. They attempted to hold an event in Southern California, only to have the venue cancel when management found out that Greene and Gaetz were involved. A second venue was booked, and also canceled, followed by a third venue that canceled just hours before the event was to take place.

So, the duo was compelled to redirect to a local beach, which is public and can't cancel on them. That's not great, but at least it's not the storefront of Four Seasons Total Landscaping, right? The only problem is that while a public beach can't exclude the Representatives, it also can't exclude the general public, including tricksters looking to have some fun at Greene's and Gaetz' expense. And so they were approached by comedian Walter Masterson, who was wearing American Flag-patterned clothing, and who pretended to be wildly excited. Once he was in close proximity to Gaetz, Masterson began recording on his phone, and kept repeating: "Everyone thinks you're crazy, I don't think you're crazy!" and "People think you're a pedophile, I don't think you're a pedophile!" Eventually, Gaetz had security haul Masterson away, but that did not stop the videos from going viral. It also did not stop roughly 1 million people from joking that if you want to be allowed to take a picture with the Representative, you have to acknowledge that he is a pedophile, since saying that he isn't will just get you hauled away.

That's pretty embarrassing. Arguably even worse, however, is that the Gaetz-Greene tour is losing money hand over fist. They've spent almost $300,000 to hold their fundraising events, and have pulled in less than $60,000. In part, that is because Gaetz is a grifter, and is using the events to funnel money from his campaign coffers to the PR firm he happens to own. However, that's just part of it. The other part is that the duo just isn't that popular, and has failed to capture even a fraction of the Trump MAGA magic. Maybe that only says something about the two of them. On the other hand, maybe it says that the love is now, and will always be, for the Dear Leader and nobody else.

video :arrow: https://www.mediaite.com/online/twitter-is-cracking-up-over-matt-gaetzs-security-escorting-away-man-who-does-not-think-hes-a-pedophile-at-all/


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'Disgraceful performance': Lemon reacts to Gaetz questioning Milley

CNN's Don Lemon reacts after Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) questioned Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley about whether or not he should resign.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/09/30/matt-gaetz-mark-milley-dons-take-dlt-vpx.cnn

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Was Matt Gaetz the Lone ‘No’ Vote on 2017 Anti-Human Trafficking Bill?

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read all about it :arrow: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/matt-gaetz-anti-human-trafficking/

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