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The Hitler photo is doctored. (Do not take this as a defense of Donald Trump, please.)


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The Hitler photo is doctored. (Do not take this as a defense of Donald Trump, please.)

Thanks, I should have know better.... My bad.

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Despite Donald Trump's being the least Christian president since Thomas Jefferson (who was a deist), evangelical voters still love him. He doesn't go to church, never turns the other cheek, and does not adhere to any of Jesus' teachings. He also violates most of the Ten Commandments on a regular basis, especially #7, #9, #10—you know, the ones about adultery, lying, and coveting stuff. But despite all this, a new Pew Research Center poll taken last week and released yesterday shows that 72% of white evangelicals approve of the President, and 82% say they will vote for him. Talk about selling your soul for a couple of Supreme Court justices. He could probably take a Bible, drop it in the mud, stomp all over it, and then use it to bludgeon someone to death on Fifth Avenue and it would be fine with them. Trump absolutely needs to hang onto this group and so far nothing can shake their faith. Nothing. Here are the data.

Religious demographic - Will vote for Biden - Will vote for Trump - Result
White evangelicals ------------ 17% -------------- 82% -------- Trump +65
White Protestants, not evangelical 37% -------------- 61% -------- Trump +24
All Protestants ---------------- 40% -------------- 58% -------- Trump +18
White Catholics --------------- 42% -------------- 57% -------- Trump +15
All Christians ----------------- 43% -------------- 55% -------- Trump +12
All Catholics ------------------ 52% -------------- 47% --------- Biden +5
All respondents --------------- 54% -------------- 44% --------- Biden +10
Nothing in particular ----------- 68% -------------- 30% --------- Biden +38
All unaffiliated ---------------- 72% -------------- 25% --------- Biden +47
Atheist/agnostic -------------- 77% -------------- 18% --------- Biden +59
Black Protestants -------------- 88% --------------- 8% --------- Biden +80

It is noteworthy that 10% of white evangelicals who don't approve of the job Trump is doing will still vote for him. It is possible that these voters are motivated by the fact that Joe Biden is a Catholic and their hatred of Catholics is even greater than their disapproval of Trump, but that is just a guess. On the other hand, white Catholics on the whole prefer a man who sins on a daily basis and never ever asks forgiveness to an observant white Catholic like themselves. It's possible that some white Catholics hold Biden's (pro-choice) views on abortion against him. But maybe religion doesn't actually matter so much. It is very possible that people's politics comes first, and then they adapt their religious views to support their political views.

All is not completely rosy for Trump with white evangelicals, though. In April his approval rating with them was 78% and now it is 72%, so it dropped a little bit in 2 months. If it drops 3 points in each of the remaining months, he will have a problem. He probably isn't aware of this level of detail, but Brad Parscale sure is, and Parscale can craft television ads pointing out that Trump has appointed 200 conservative judges to try to keep them in the fold.

Finally, although the poll was really about the religious breakdown of the voters, the bottom line is that among all adults, Biden is ahead by 10 points, consistent with just about every other recent national poll.

Pew Research Poll :arrow: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/07/01/white-evangelical-approval-of-trump-slips-but-eight-in-ten-say-they-would-vote-for-him/


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