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[quote author=slime.oofytv.set link=board=faq;num=1036197324;start=15#17 date=12/23/04 at 20:59:42]<br>that shit's way over my head....any fz examples of what's he's talkin about ¿[hr]<br>that black page is pretty close with the 3-5-7, except the last part of the 7 is split into a 3 and a 1<br><br>3-5-7 tab:<br><br><br><br>[center][table][tr][td]7[/td][td].[/td][td].[/td][td].[/td][td].[/td][td]5[/td][td]7[/td][/tr][tr][td].[/td][td]5[/td][td].[/td][td].[/td][td]8[/td][td].[/td][td].[/td][td]6[/td][td]7[/td][td]3[/td][td]2[/td][td]5[/td][td][sub]/[/sub][/td][td]--[/td][td][sub]\[/sub][/td][/tr][tr][td].[/td][td].[/td][td]7[/td][td]5[/td][td].[/td][td].[/td][td].[/td][td].[/td][td].[/td][td].[/td][td].[/td][td].[/td][td]2[/td][td]0[/td][td]2[/td][td]4[/td][td]6[/td][/tr][/table][/center][/quote]<br><br>Hey slime, another good example of "groupings within groupings" is the very next bar (bar 5) after the one the citizen posted:<br><br>http://www.zappateers.com/photo.php?cat=39&num=7&expand=15,20<br><br>That's a bar of 4/4 time (ya know, when musicians count off a song at the begining: 1, 2, 3, 4). <br><br>The bar begins with a half-note.  This means you begin playing that sound on "1" and sustain it thru "2".  <br><br>But all hell breaks loose when you get to beat 3.  <br><br>The numeral "3" over all those dots indicates that one is to play a quarter-note triplet over beats "3" and "4" of the bar; that is, you are to space three beats evenly over the space of two beats. In other words, to play it accurately, you've gotta cram Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday into the space of Thursday and Friday.  To pull this off, Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday are gonna hafta be a little faster than usual (but no faster than each other).<br><br>Now, if'n that weren't difficult enough, FZ FURTHER subdivided each beat of the quarter note triplet into 2 groups of five and a group of six. <br><br>SO, within EACH of your speeded-up Monday and Tuesday, you've gotta cram ANOTHER M-F!  Then, when you get to your speeded up Wednesday, you've gotta cram M-S into that space, and you've gotta make sure they are a LITTLE faster than the M-F you crammed into Monday and Tuesday (since you've gotta get Saturday in there too)!<br><br>Writing that stuff is trick enough, but to IMPROVISE groupings like that is not of this earth.  Check out the Guitar book scans to see stuff like this that he made up on the spot.<br><br>vcf

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There isn't much chance that you'll get people to like you. The best that most folks can hope for is that people will put up with their shit. MTF

Revel in your otherness. MK

STILL pissed at Tipper. VCF

Mikey's myspace blog tells of having rocks thrown at him in the street in The Netherlands.<br><br> <br><br>http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=9071693&blogID=96346413&MyToken=665a44c5-c48e-4c41-982e-f40b7bc3f368

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Trendmonger is a waste of space.

I figured he was attacked by a squad of killer ninjas, but turns out it's nothing...

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"When you hear music, after it's over, it's gone in the air. You can never capture it again." -- Eric Dolphy

How Mike Keneally’s Comeback on ‘The Universe Will Provide’ Fulfilled All of His Promise

September 9th, 2019
by Tom Johnson

I was slightly disappointed with Mike Keneally’s initial release of 2004: Dog seemed to be lacking some cohesive element in the music. Where it worked, it worked great, but Dog was just too unbalanced by some out-of-place avant-garde-ish pieces that didn’t really fit on such an otherwise rockin’ album.

So when this seemingly long-in-production orchestral follow-up recording arrived on Sept. 7, 2004, I wasn’t quite sure how to react. Caution was the only thing I could feel. The Universe Will Provide would be the moment that revealed if Mike Keneally had slipped quietly over that dark side a peak of creativity often has, or if he had somehow managed to take everything to the next level.

The latter, amazingly, was the verdict on this collaboration with the Metropole Orkest.

The Universe Will Provide somehow managed to combine all of Keneally’s previous excesses, from the wildly tangential and angular avant-garde excursions of Nonkertompf to the enveloping warmth of Wooden Smoke, and the result was a stunning, beautiful exploration of what I can only imagine are the soundtracks to a kid’s most vivid dreams – all of it without a single word. Forget that snippets of this could be found in the weakness of Dog‘s “This Tastes Like a Hotel.” That kind of confused, meaningless meandering was nowhere to be found in any of this album’s 13 pieces.

Most impressive of all, however, was that this managed to escape the embarrassment of being a “rocker with orchestra” vanity piece. If anything, The Universe Will Provide was the album that Mike Keneally has been saving all his creativity to make.

Set free from Frank Zappa’s band a few years before his unfortunate death, Keneally had been flirting around the fringes of this kind of work, but it clearly took a while for his skills and personality to mature to the point where something like The Universe Will Provide is created purely out of a need and not an ego-soothing exercise in excess.

It couldn’t have happened before then and it couldn’t have happened later. Then it happened, perfectly.

go here for the audio
https://somethingelsereviews.com/2019/0 ... l-provide/

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hey kemosabe where you goin' with no mask on your face.....

Devin Townsend announces band line-up for Empath tour in new video
By Jerry Ewing (Prog) 25/9/2019 15:32

Members of Frank Zappa's band, Haken, Stick Men and Kaipa make up new Devin Townsend touring band


(Image credit: InsidrOut Music)

Devin Townsend has released a new video announcing his new band line-up for his forthcoming Empath tour.

"This is a quantum leap for me, and it’s a situation that I have been very proactive in choosing a group of individuals and setlist for," Townsend tells Prog.

You can watch the whole video below. Haken's Diego Tajeda wil be on keyboards whilst Frank Zappa's Mike Keneally and Stick Men's Markus Reuter will feature on guitar, along with Kaipa drummer Morgen Agren, Empath bassist Nathan Navarro and Casualties Of Cool vocalist Che Aimee Dorval.

“There have been only a few times throughout my career that I can safely say I’ve taken a chance as big as I’m about to take with these new touring plans," adds Townsend. "But I believe that to not take a chance on something as important to me as this can only lead to creative stagnation.

"It is with profound gratitude that I can announce this next tour. To be joined by musicians of this calibre, as well as crew and sound design of such a level, is something I am truly humbled by. As one who has been working professionally my whole career to be able to be allowed to pull something like this off, I really can’t say ‘thank you’ enough to everyone involved.

"This will be without a net. No backing tracks, no clicks, a lot of room for improvisation, and every possible avenue through musicians and production of high calibre for new and interesting things to be possible each night.

"Though this is the first of my upcoming plans for touring, and I don’t want to be limited in the future, my gut feeling is that this will be a truly unique and fascinatingly colourful organisation that will yield wonderful things. I truly hope it can be received well enough to be brought to a lot of different territories."

Devin Townsend & Haken 2019 European tour

Nov 15: Paris Salle Pleyel, France
Nov 16: Antwerp Trix, Belgium
Nov 17: Tilburg 013, Netherlands
Nov 18: Hamburg Grunspan, Germany
Nov 23: Stockholm Münchenbryggeriet, Sweden
Nov 24: Oslo Sentrum Scene, Norway
Nov 25: Copenhagen Amager Bio, Denmark
Nov 27: Berlin Astra, Germany
Nov 28: Prague Roxy, Czech Republic
Nov 29: Wroclaw A2, Poland
Nov 30: Budapest Barba Negra, Hungary
Dec 02: Vienna Simm City, Austria
Dec 03: Zurich X Tra, Switzerland
Dec 05: Cardiff Great Hall, UK
Dec 06: Dublin Academy, Ireland
Dec 07: Belfast Limelight, UK
Dec 09: Glasgow SWG3, UK
Dec 10: Manchester Albert Hall, UK
Dec 12: London Roundhouse, UK
Dec 13: Nottingham Rock City, UK

https://www.loudersound.com/news/devin- ... -new-video

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hey kemosabe where you goin' with no mask on your face.....

Which members?

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Haken's Diego Tajeda will be on keyboards whilst Frank Zappa's Mike Keneally and Stick Men's Markus Reuter will feature on guitar, along with Kaipa drummer Morgen Agren, Empath bassist Nathan Navarro and Casualties Of Cool vocalist Che Aimee Dorval.

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hey kemosabe where you goin' with no mask on your face.....

Caveat: I am not familiar with the album Dog and I'm not a big MK fan, but that's not the principle here. What actually gives this wanker the assumed authority to pronounce that avant garde-ish pieces don't fit on an otherwise rockin' album. Us composers can put whatever the fuck we like on our albums. Like it, don't like it, whatever. What he's saying is that he doesn't get MK's trains of thought. When I play the piano, for example, I'll move from one piece to another according to my mood. Experimenting with a particular piece may have been the reason why I went to play it in the first place, but after that, whim and developing inspiration take over. FZ's AAAFNRAA concept says it all.

I'm kind of torn about criticism, because when I write music I'm hoping to start a conversation, so feedback helps, but something as restrictive as forbidding the combination of avant-garde and rock?

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The way I see it Barry, this should be a very dynamite show.

Watched Devin Townsend's Atlanta performance from 3/6/2020 and it was fun...especially the encores.

Zappa fans should take note of the Keneally/Agren duet at the end of the show, it starts at 1:30:00

https://youtu.be/12i7iQG52yA

^^^^^ excellent, thanks for posting.....^^^^^

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hey kemosabe where you goin' with no mask on your face.....