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 Post subject: Re: Zappa Hologram Tour
PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 4:59 pm 
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^^^Thanks! Great description of the soundcheck. Having seen and followed all the band members in various incarnations I can visualize your experience. Thanks again! :)


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 Post subject: Re: Zappa Hologram Tour
PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 8:14 pm 
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Saw this in Wilkes-Barre. Having never seen frank, it was special for sure. Trouble and apostrophe are fuckin bitchin. Other reviews are accurate but it’s worthwhile; this is a good band. Keneally plays some great shit and I’ve seen a few comments that people don’t care for Thunes but I thought his playing was gnarly. Not all of it features Zappa, so it borders on cover band, but I thought they killed.

There’s a hot rats 50th anniversary t-shirt, a very brief hot rats 50th anniversary image during the show and someone posted they played twinkle tits during sound check. Could we be getting a 50th anniversary hot rats release? We can only hope.


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 Post subject: Re: Zappa Hologram Tour
PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 2:42 am 
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I also was at the Wilkes-Barre show, and it was better than this forum lead me to think it could be. The band was smoking hot! Scott on bass was one of the BEST things in the band, and his antics at show's end were pretty fun too. As Ahmet was introducing him ,every time Ahmet turned his back he was making fun of him,....and when Ahmet turned to face him he made the "cute-sy" hands-On-jaws gesture that Shirley Temple used to do in her old movies. So I don't know if he just read the anti-Ahmet comments and he was just appealing to those sentiments....or what...?

The animated Frank Zappa parts were , of course, Ahmet's idea of what the lyrics needed as imagery….so, yeah, some were really a bit out there (but it is THE BIZARRE World we're dealing with here). Some funny little merch items like Zappa as a hot dog finger puppets, various pins , a few shirts that were tempting that were not show specific (that I could not afford).

Ahmet's little end celebration was OK....better than the video I've seen elsewhere ….he got all the "breaks" right....and worked-up the front crowd and threw some merch table items out to the crowd too!

Over all it was a fun tribute to Frank....and of course doesn't replace Dweezil's all music tributes,....or for that fact any of the many others that still play out. In the end it showed me a bit of what Frank's music meant to Ahmet himself.

I guess it was done as well as an Ahmet tribute to Frank could have been. It was the "off the wall fun" with good music show!

PS....I have to add that I feel this show points up just why there should be as many Frank Zappa tributes as possible....everyone has their own take on what Frank meant to them,...and he was very complex.


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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:08 am 
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Good stuf, Nic we need your follow-up... :smoke:


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 Post subject: Re: Zappa Hologram Tour
PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 6:02 pm 
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I got to see the Wilkes-Barre show also, and was totally amazed! I NEVER thought I'd ever see these musicians on the same stage playing that music, so to me this was a sort of dream-come-true-bucket-list kind of show!

I'm sort of annoyed at how a lot of people seem to think that "Frank would not have wanted this" or "This is wrong" but hey, the video/hologram stuff is a bit cheezy, but the musicians on stage are legit, and playing their asses off!

Thunes looks like he's an investment banker in his garage on the weekend, but playing his ass off! I've only seen video of him, and watched him a lot last night, he plays some wild stuff!

Keneally is and always has been a monster! The notes flowing from those fingers are over the top!

Ray White is one of my favorite singers, and when he did Evil Prince, I was totally blown away!

Ed Mann has always been one of my favorite percussionists, and loved what he played! (and from chatting with him occasionally on Facebook, is a helluva nice guy)

And Bobby Martin is the wizard! An amazing musician top to bottom!

I've seen Travers a few times, and he's gotten a LOT better over the years! But you figure that he's heard more recordings than most, and can probably play each tune the way each drummer before him played it!

If you get a chance to see this show, go for the music, the video/hologram/etc. is a nice diversion, but the six guys on stage make it worthwhile! And go see Dweezil as well! Why choose?


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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2019 2:06 am 
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It'd be nice if the show came to NZ, I'm sure there'd be an audience, Dweezil's show was a sell out.....Ahmet if your out there, Mike Keneally and Vaultmiester Joe will attest to our antipodean niceness.....


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 Post subject: Re: Zappa Hologram Tour
PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 9:57 am 
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Jaminbenb wrote:
I got to see the Wilkes-Barre show also, and was totally amazed! I NEVER thought I'd ever see these musicians on the same stage playing that music, so to me this was a sort of dream-come-true-bucket-list kind of show!

I'm sort of annoyed at how a lot of people seem to think that "Frank would not have wanted this" or "This is wrong" but hey, the video/hologram stuff is a bit cheezy, but the musicians on stage are legit, and playing their asses off!

Thunes looks like he's an investment banker in his garage on the weekend, but playing his ass off! I've only seen video of him, and watched him a lot last night, he plays some wild stuff!


You really shouldn't be annoyed at people not wanting this. I think they feared it would be a disgrace in some way to have someone assume that they could reincarnate Frank and simulate a real live Zappa show. That was my main worry. Forgive me , but at times Ahmet seems over zealous , and while a hologram of Frank Zappa is exciting to him....it points up the idea that No one could ever second guess Frank Zappa,and no one could even accurately "fake" a Zappa show on all levels.

So, at first even I said ,"This should not be done...",and by that I meant a "hologram show made to simulate Frank Zappa live" would be a failure. When I saw that it was going on in any case.....well, I had to see if it was done "correctly"....as in "just a tribute" and not a "replacement" for Frank. Now after seeing it....I guess it was a sort of success? It was just made as a wild tribute using new technology. But even with the great set of musicians on board,...it was a nice show, with more accent on the lyrical end (in his eccentric ,wild mind, vein …), but as a person who saw him "in life" it's still a "tribute", and a bit one-sided too. I was very entertained ,...and I was amazed at the musician's skill in somehow playing with a hologram.

In fairness , no one can simulate the real Frank Zappa....not his sons , his past side musicians, or fans (new or old). So ,as Ahmet's take on his father's music ….I can say it was a real success. He lives his whole life inspired by his father's wild sense of humor and wide-open stream-of-thought mind-set. Great for him! I say "thanks for the fun show! " But ,as I've said....the Ed Palermo Big Band has the WAZOO-ness down pat, DWEEZIL has the guitar angle in his genes, Project Object has the other musicians and singers in a cool tribute show, and the GRANDMOTHERS are the original crew doing their best. They all should exist to showcase all the great angles of Frank's amazing mind and music. BUT for those of you who never saw him in "life" ,he was all those bands in one human being! Think about that before you get mad at the "super serious" fans.

You've got to forgive the "purists" for not believing in the "un-do-able" idea that all angles of Frank could be simulated,...somehow. :)


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Merch booth, Baltimore. Looks cool. Zappa Uncle Sam shirt!

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C'mon west coast dates!

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coevad wrote:
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Merch booth, Baltimore. Looks cool. Zappa Uncle Sam shirt!


God! I REALLY wanted shirts "H' , "I" , and "J" (look at the little paper tabs in the photo)! But I could only afford one. ARRGH!

LOVE the "infrared face " one , and the old "Bizarre records logo"....damn!!! :cry:


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Thanks for posting merch pics!

Whenever they play here, I'm definitely buying the blue & white trucker hat and D t-shirt! 8)

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Nordegg on duty.
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"It Blew My Mind!" The Bizarre World of Frank Zappa LIVE! at the Count Basie Center

https://www.newjerseystage.com/articles ... ie-center/

^^ Lots of nice pic's ^^


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I'm chomping at the bit, at this rate the LA show could be loaded with Special guests


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I'm chomping at the bit, at this rate the LA show could be loaded with Special guests


Have you got the magic ticket(s)?


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I'm chomping at the bit, at this rate the LA show could be loaded with Special guests


Have you got the magic ticket(s)?


As soon as they hit, I will pick...actually KU and I have an oath to go to LA... :smoke:


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Gray_Ghost wrote:
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I'm chomping at the bit, at this rate the LA show could be loaded with Special guests


Have you got the magic ticket(s)?


As soon as they hit, I will pick...actually KU and I have an oath to go to LA... :smoke:


Excellent!

There's not enough oaths these days.....


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Ken Oath?

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Check out the politics practiced by this oath... :mrgreen:


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Ken Oath?

Daryl Hall and John Oathes.


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Arlo Oathrie... :mrgreen:


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Oath Hey Can You Thee.

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Just in case: in Australia, kenoath is short for fucking oath.

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The way I see it Barry, this should be a very dynamite show.


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That makes my Quaker Oath's


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the apostrophe shows oathnership!

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