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 Post subject: Re: Fired Band Members?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:46 am 
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There's one fairly recent interview with Ian in the Zappa documentary that was made for Dutch television (I think it's called "The Big Note", made around the year 2000). I can't really remember what he says there, but I think he praised Frank for his work ethic and originality. No mention of the reason why he left the Mothers. But yeah.. that must have been a very rare appearance.<br><br>I just remembered another thing I read somewhere... at one point he had joined the Magic Band to play guitar (!) on one of their albums, but apparently that didn't work out as planned, Beefheart was too difficult to work with or something... Unfortunately, I can't find the article or interview this was mentioned in, can anyone confirm this?

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 Post subject: Re: Fired Band Members?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 8:05 am 
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[quote author=Aybe_Sea link=board=legends;num=1052838067;start=45#48 date=02/19/06 at 06:41:50]Why did Ian go though?[/quote]<br><br>Just guessing, but maybe there was some tension between him and Ruth. When did the two divorce?<br>

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 Post subject: Re: Fired Band Members?
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I got to see the Dixie Dregs with Jerry Goodman a few years back (they were opening up for Dream Theater) and the interplay between Steve Morse, Goodman and keyboardist T Lavitz was amazing and very Zappa-esque. I know Jerry is on the Dregs' California Screamin' disc, but I'm not aware of any others.

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 Post subject: Re: Fired Band Members?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 11:58 am 
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[quote author=Aybe_Sea link=board=legends;num=1052838067;start=45#48 date=02/19/06 at 06:41:50]Sal Marquez was fired because he wanted a raise. [/quote]<br><br>In the Dutch Aloha magazine from December 2003, George Duke (I think, should check it again) told the story that Sal Marquez was fired because he and Frank fancied the same girl. The girl went for Sal, and Sal was fired.<br>Anyone know more about that?<br>

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 Post subject: Re: Fired Band Members?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:26 pm 
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In the interviews I read with FZ, he would praise his talent, but said he evicted him from the band because of his alcohol-based problems. Although the "I-want-her-no-I-want-her" scenario is pretty amusing. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Fired Band Members?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 8:30 pm 
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I prefer ponty's jazz based improvisations. Goodman is more original in a way but not as good a tone i think. Ponty's recording "plays the music of frank zappa" is really good IMO. He's latest album is a little more towards his original direction but the use of electronic drumming isn't the same for me. it's okay.<br><br> Whatever became of Denny Walley?


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 Post subject: Re: Fired Band Members?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:45 am 
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Ponty didn't want royalties for his solos. When he joined Zappa's band...<br><br>
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it was a very interesting experience, because zappa took out all the very complex instrumental music that he had stashed in his desk.
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the public lost interest quickly, and he had to go back to satire and more commercial rock. that wasn't what i wanted to do.
<br><br>I think he told Zappa as much, and Zappa didn't take kindly to his words. Whether he was fired or quit, he was out of the band due to personal conflict with FZ.

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 Post subject: Re: Fired Band Members?
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on the subject of jeff simmons quitting and then being fired...
and the preposterous guesswork of these pedantic acolytes...
Ruth loved jeff...frank loved Jeff.. (Ruth's quote)
he quit....he was re-hired...and then fired ..
nobody plays the last card on Frank


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 Post subject: Re: Fired Band Members?
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Hey this is a good read very interesting stuff.

Does anyone know how / details of Ian Underwood's departure?


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 Post subject: Re: Fired Band Members?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:23 am 
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I heard a rumor that Ian Underwood leaving the band was due to Frank's attention on Ruth.
Not sure if they were fooling around? Maybe Ian believed they were? This was before they
got divorced. Anyways, this is what I read. Not sure if there's any truth to it.


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 Post subject: Re: Fired Band Members?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:24 am 
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Did she have small kids the years she was touring?


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 Post subject: Re: Fired Band Members?
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Tero wrote:
Did she have small kids the years she was touring?

No, but, Roy did.

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 Post subject: Re: Fired Band Members?
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We know all about Roy and kids. :shock:

But I presume Ruth had the kids with Ian?


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Thanks MOOP have always wondered, as Uncle Meat is my Favourite Zappa Album and thought Ian's contributions on albums were always a high point,

We all know about Roy :mrgreen: He kept on rejoining the band too and did the 1976 tour of OZ


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 Post subject: Re: Fired Band Members?
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Tero wrote:
We know all about Roy and kids. :shock:

But I presume Ruth had the kids with Ian?

I don’t know. The story of how she dropped out of the music scene was because she wanted to raise a family. I always assumed this was post-Ian (not his kids).


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