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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:54 am 
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Holger Czukay and CAN made life so much richer. Thank you, Holger. Rest in peace.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:26 am 
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Not nice news - he was a true original.

Here's a great one with Wobble and Liebezeit in memorium.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWAplMCK03Q

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:29 pm 
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My_Name_Is_Fritz will be bummed...

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:41 am 
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My_Name_Is_Fritz will be bummed...


He'll be particularly bummed by the fact that there was almost no coverage in the German media about the death of one of Germany's most important musicians. But the Germans are like that: 1/2 of them haven't even heard of Kraftwerk.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 7:12 am 
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My_Name_Is_Fritz will be bummed...


He'll be particularly bummed by the fact that there was almost no coverage in the German media about the death of one of Germany's most important musicians. But the Germans are like that: 1/2 of them haven't even heard of Kraftwerk.

Just curious. What German "classic rock" bands (for want of a better term) are held in high esteem in Germany? Is a band like the Scorpions celebrated?


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Walter has finished reelin' in the years


He's on the other side of no tomorrow.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:17 pm 
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... But the Germans are like that: 1/2 of them haven't even heard of Kraftwerk.

I have a Kraftwerk in my neighbourhood and i hear it every night :P

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Caputh wrote:
Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
My_Name_Is_Fritz will be bummed...


He'll be particularly bummed by the fact that there was almost no coverage in the German media about the death of one of Germany's most important musicians. But the Germans are like that: 1/2 of them haven't even heard of Kraftwerk.


Most of the papers had coverage about Holger's death and had obituaries the next day at least online. But I doubt that many of those writers have ever heard a note of Holger's or Can's music nor would they ever bother to listen it now. Most articles were copy&paste constructs from Wikipedia etc.

It is always the same: For most people including "writers with the pen in their hand" even Frank was the one hit wonder with one song only.

A few more examples of Genius Holger at work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGHhSlPJRCI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_gIdBRpL94
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OlBugOdojM


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Papers, but not TV. My wife is addicted to ZDF news and instead of Holger we got the death of some obscure, crappy artist.

Good question about Germans and their awareness of their own musical history/culture. I think one has to differentiate between East and West. In the East, there is much less knowledge about e.g. "Krautrock". The well known bands are people like Die Ärtze, Rammstein, Die Toten Hosen and possibly the Scorpions. However, any "difficult", innovative or really unusual German bands tend to get easily forgetten, even if they had a hit e.g. Deutsche Amerikanische Freundschaft, Trio, Can, Kraftwerk, Ideal, Faust, Neu, Klaus Schulze.

There is also an awful tradition of "Liedermacher", basically sub Bob Dylan folkies e.g Reinhard Mey and "Schlager" (Modern Talking, Jürgen Drews, Heino - though Jello Biafra is apparently a fan of his).

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I once saw a TV-interview long years ago (probably in the 90s). The only thing i remember was a sentence that also could have been said by FZ. He said something like: Only other musicians are capable of understanding and really listening to what a musician does.

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Len Wein, a comic book legend who co-created Wolverine and Swamp Thing, has died at 69
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Steve Howe's son Virgil Howe.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:42 am 
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Now I am really bummed... :cry:

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Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
sleeping in a jar wrote:

Now I am really bummed... :cry:


Yes, really quite sad. And yet it makes me think of another situation which always infuriates me. Steve Howe's son died and they cancelled the rest of the tour....completely understandable...When John Entwhistle died, The Who played THE NEXT NIGHT saying the show must go on.......WTF.....I still can't wrap my arms around that. I can only assume that they saw it coming and there was more to it than we know.


Anyway, also.....

Jerry Garcia's older brother, the one who accidentally chopped off half his finger, Clifford "Tiff" Garcia.

https://www.relix.com/%20news/detail%20/clifford_tiff_garcia_passes_away_at_79
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Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
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When John Entwhistle died, The Who played THE NEXT NIGHT saying the show must go on.......WTF.....I still can't wrap my arms around that. I can only assume that they saw it coming and there was more to it than we know.
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It doesn't matter (to your point), but it was actually 4 nights later the Who started their tour after he died.


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When John Entwhistle died, The Who played THE NEXT NIGHT saying the show must go on.......WTF.....I still can't wrap my arms around that. I can only assume that they saw it coming and there was more to it than we know.
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It doesn't matter (to your point), but it was actually 4 nights later the Who started their tour after he died.[/quote]




they actually were on tour when he died, that happened in Vegas after a show if I am not mistaken, I also think the show I saw on 4th of July at the Sacramento Amphitheater was the first show they played after his death... :idea:


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Edith Windsor, Whose Same-Sex Marriage Fight Led to Landmark Ruling, Dies at 88

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Edith Windsor, the gay-rights activist whose landmark Supreme Court case struck down the Defense of Marriage Act in 2013 and granted same-sex married couples federal recognition for the first time and rights to myriad federal benefits, died on Tuesday in Manhattan. She was 88.

Her wife, Judith Kasen-Windsor, confirmed the death but did not specify a cause. They were married in 2016.


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When John Entwhistle died, The Who played THE NEXT NIGHT saying the show must go on.......WTF.....I sti



they actually were on tour when he died, that happened in Vegas after a show if I am not mistaken, I also think the show I saw on 4th of July at the Sacramento Amphitheater was the first show they played after his death... :idea:
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The tour was going to start in vegas. First show of the tour was at Hollywood bowl on July 1. His last show was back in February 2002.


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bracton wrote:
Plook wrote:

When John Entwhistle died, The Who played THE NEXT NIGHT saying the show must go on.......WTF.....I sti



they actually were on tour when he died, that happened in Vegas after a show if I am not mistaken, I also think the show I saw on 4th of July at the Sacramento Amphitheater was the first show they played after his death... :idea:

The tour was going to start in vegas. First show of the tour was at Hollywood bowl on July 1. His last show was back in February 2002.


Fact check....they played 3 nights later.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/28/arts/john-entwistle-bass-player-for-the-who-is-dead-at-57.html?mcubz=0
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John Entwistle, Bass Player for the Who, Is Dead at 57
By JON PARELES JUNE 28, 2002

John Alec Entwistle, the bass player for the Who, died yesterday in Las Vegas, where the Who was preparing to start a United States tour today. Mr. Entwistle was 57.

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I knew it was right after and I knew it was the 4th because they had an awesome fireworks show... :smoke:


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Frank Vincent aka Billy Batts:

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The highly talented classical guitarist Maarten Oomes (19).
Here he is playing at the leading Dutch classical music competition:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG0NxEOK0MQ

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BBP wrote:
The highly talented classical guitarist Maarten Oomes (19).
Here he is playing at the leading Dutch classical music competition:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG0NxEOK0MQ


I had never heard of him, but the video shows he was very talented. Only 19. :(


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Husker Du’s Grant Hart Dies at 56
http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/husker-du%E2%80%99s-grant-hart-dies-at-56/ar-AArU0ud?OCID=ansmsnnews11

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