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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:47 pm 
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Is it just because he's copying or is it because it's not really his style?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:47 am 
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BBP wrote:
Is it just because he's copying or is it because it's not really his style?


I am not sure yet, but I think he feels he has to help cement dad's thing ... but that means he has to sacrifice himself. But in the process, he is losing himself, and I am not sure that is a good thing all around, by the time he wakes up to that.

His only real option, to prevent comparison, is to do something that no one else does, and does not compare him to his dad's work, regardless of what it is. But I'm not sure that DZ is capable of going to see/listen/try something that he is not familiar with ... and he is familiar with dad's stuff.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:33 pm 
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Dweezil is who he is. He's a real good rock guitarist who does a great job of presenting his Dad's music with ZPZ. He makes the occasional uneven solo album that features some interesting rock guitar and usually mediocre vocals when present. I said years ago he's the best tribute guitarist in the world. He can do Van Halen better than Van Halen. He's 46 years old folks. This is what we get and that's not a bad thing.


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I dig the first song. Then I get off the train. Just dont like it. Singing is not something I like usually... its ok here. But I just dont like the music much. No more to say for me really.

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Ronny's Noomies wrote:
I really want to like it, but even after repeated listenings - IN THE CAR!! - it just doesn't seem very good. I owe a lot to Dweezil for what he's done to keep FZ's music going, but.... [sigh]


You need to try harder, goddammit!


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:12 pm 
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I haven't got the album yet but I just heard Dragon Master for the first time and I love it. Great tongue in cheek metal song that's way better than most of the metal from the era that it is parodying.


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I can just imagine somebody in a Cockney accent saying "this album leaves me flat, oi won't have it in the house any longer" and toss it out the window, but alas my English isn't good enough to pull it off. Can somebody help me out?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:23 pm 
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Finally got the album. I really like it. Good mix of styles and textures. The first song is very (Frank) Zappaesque in a very good way. Dragon Master is a funny and cool '80's metal parody. The Malkovich tune is pretty cool. Some of the pop songs are almost XTC-ish. The vocals sound very processed which considering that singing isn't Dweezil's strong point is ok. I think this is Dweezil's most consistent and mature sounding album. I'll be listening to it a lot.


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Does he still make a habit out of overly long fade outs?

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BBP wrote:
Does he still make a habit out of overly long fade outs?

Nope, he's corrected that. :)

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He's technically excellent however, the fact he has to play his dad's music for recognition tells you that he doesn't have the talent to write music of his own that people want to listen to.

There's no doubt he's a master on it, but he has no originality. It's similar to being a ferarri driver, you can't design it, but you can drive it really well.

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Dweezil Zappa Talks About Returning With First New Studio Album in a Decade: Exclusive Premiere
11/20/2015 by Gary Graff

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Frank Zappa casts a significant shadow over anyone he's made music with -- especially his progeny. So the challenge for Dweezil Zappa on Via Zammata', his first new solo album in nearly a decade, was straddling the line between his Zappa Plays Zappa endeavors and his own artistic identity.

"This record is a chance to take what I've learned over the past decade of learning my dad's music and playing it live and applying some of those elements to my own music -- but I didn't want to do it in a way that made the music seem like just a derivative of my dad's music," Zappa tells Billboard. "I wanted to simplify a lot of the music and just make a collection of songs that seemed like they would be fun to listen to. I wanted to make each song have its own sonic fingerprint, a different production or sonic landscape for each song, so it kind of goes into different musical genres -- sometimes all together."

Via Zammata' does sport more intricate vocal arrangements that certainly nod to the elder Zappa's work, and the palette of instrumentation is greater throughout its 12 tracks. "I'm using certain kind of instruments that I haven't used before, like a lot of keyboards and other textures that have not been on any of my other records and playing banjo and different stuff," Zappa notes. "We used a string quartet and wrote some music that has horn arrangements. In the past I would've done all those layers just with my guitars. Now there's just a lot more colors and a bigger vocabulary of things in the musical spectrum on this record."

Those new elements include Zappa's wife, children and niece on "On Fire" -- "something I never had a chance to do on my other records," Zappa says. And the song's line about sitting on a train watching a woman eat a tomato like an apple came from a real-life experience.

"It was actually a pretty hideous sight to witness," says Zappa, a professional foodie who's appeared on the Food Network. "Sometimes tomatoes fresh off the vine actually smell like cat urine. So on this train in France it was very hot and there was this smell of cat urine and this lady eating this tomato with all the seeds spilling down her face and it just looked really terrible. And the train was packed so you couldn't really get away from what was happening there. So that made it into the song in a weird way."

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Via Zammata' also features "Dragon Master," which Zappa wrote from a set of fantastical lyrics his father gave to him. He and his brother Ahmet played the song live in their band Z, but Zappa created some new music for its recorded version, which is sung by Shawn Albro. "I just wrote this hilarious and ridiculous metal song, and still maintained its sense of humor," he says. "It's a ride through a few different metal styles. It's a crazy song." John Malkovich, meanwhile, provides vocals on the track "Malkovich."

Zappa is planning a short solo tour during early 2016 to support Via Zammata' and will be part of the Experience Hendrix Tour kicking off during late February. Zappa Plays Zappa is currently on the road and will be back out next year as well, this time celebrating the 50th anniversary of Frank Zappa's first album, Freak Out!

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As far as Dweezil's solo albums, this one is just o.k. Automatic to me is his best work.

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I don't have any of DZ's albums, I do have the ZPZ dvd, which doesn't really count. Via Zammata sounds interesting though, so maybe something I'll look into in the new year...I do own a copy of My Mother is a Space Cadet, but I'll be damned if I can find it....I suspect the ex may have frisbeed it...

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I have several... If you assign each song a like/dislike rating, by my taste, DZ never gets more than 50% likes.

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I listened to the album today.

Dragon Master is great!

I'm surprised that there is only one instrumental track, though.

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coevad wrote:
I listened to the album today.

Dragon Master is mediocre at best!

I'm surprised that there are only two instrumental tracks, though.


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zappahead311 wrote:
coevad wrote:
I listened to the album today.

Dragon Master is mediocre at best!

I'm surprised that there are only two instrumental tracks, though.


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Why don't you just state your own opinion instead of altering those of others?


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KUIII wrote:
zappahead311 wrote:
coevad wrote:
I listened to the album today.

Dragon Master is mediocre at best!

I'm surprised that there are only two instrumental tracks, though.


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Why don't you just state your own opinion instead of altering those of others?


I figured if people can't count, their opinion on music is probably skewed too, so I fixed both. 2 birds, or was it only 1??

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Ordered VZ today.....along with FOH.

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