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I have cleon on my ignore list. But as long as I'm not logged in I have to see all this unintelligible, stupid babbling. What is this? "You can't even speak your own fuckin' language." And if English is not your native language then learn some rudimentary skills to be able to do something that can be called communication.

Or stay away from public places like this when you have been consuming drugs or alcohol.

Thinman

Whats up you too weak too ignore

Edit your German and all what a fucking cheek

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Arf you out of your fucking mind.

There you go again. If you can see what happened, why the need to get so abusive about it?
That is not what I said to do.
Haven't what?

Are you talking about where I said the "was" is sung on F? I wasn't inferring that was a mistake, in fact it's perfectly musical to my ear and fits with the harmony at that point, a nice run of fifths F C G. The opening is very much centred around C and you could say it's C major, but it's much more than that. I really don't get why you have to be so abusive about it. This is pretty much my favourite Zappa piece, is it any surprise I've spent some time studying it?

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The way I see it Barry, this should be a very dynamite show.

I see no sense in you saying "That is not what I said to do."then say you where wrong about it anyway.Yes the beginning is around key of C also around Key of G only diffrence the single F#,and i mean come on now You addmitted off notes.

Edit i forgot you ask me why be abessive I just noticed you just Quoted me and left your Quote on the other page Your a Joke.
Don't go on thread because of me You need too grow a pair

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Arf you out of your fucking mind.

My apologies to everyone that has Cleon on ignore. He's too blind to see that I really do genuinely try and understand what he has to say. When I've been able to decipher his comments, I've found that he often has interesting things to say but his hair trigger descents into extreme abuse every time there's the slightest misunderstanding have led me to have him on ignore now for a long time. I made the mistake of checking his reply that followed my first post in this thread and then getting sucked in to try and have a serious discussion with him. BIG FAIL. I won't be doing that again.

And for the record, I've checked my own comments about Inca Roads here and I think the only one that could possibly be misinterpreted without extreme prejudice is "The harmony goes all over the place". That is not saying out of tune, it is just emphasising that the opening song section of Inca Roads may be based on a C root pedal type thing, but many different scales/modes are being used over it. There is nothing "out of tune" about Inca roads, it's perfect, it's one of the most incredible compositions ever. I was bedazzled the first time I heard it and then it just got more amazing as time went by.

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The way I see it Barry, this should be a very dynamite show.

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Pity you don't have a think slimeo before posting neither is that Asshole so what was you point again
Keep trying.
Poly pull your head from your Asshole your just talking shit he is this that is what ever i told you yesterday the score now deal with it

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Arf you out of your fucking mind.

I just watched the ZPZ dvd and the Keyboard player is slapping the shit out of the E flat

So i was Correct Key of G then Around 6.40 minutes,key of i said key of F before that is the name of the minor key the major is A flat.

Same as close encounters of the third kind Yes the famous space ship part

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Arf you out of your fucking mind.

Does ANYONE speak cleon?

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"...I'm absolutely a Libertarian on MANY issues..." ~ Frank Zappa, Rochester, NY, March 11, 1988

Only when I'm REALLY drunk.

Seriously, like Poly said 9 out of 10 times I wonder what's wrong with this guy but then on the 10th time he makes complete sense.

Precisely it would be over you head just stick too copy and paste setlist what the fuck for I don't know wannabe

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Arf you out of your fucking mind.

Thank you everyone for your vast knowledge on the subject. I'm only 17, but I understood most of what you guys said having to do with scale degrees and whatnot, thanks to my Highschool music teacher . What I don't understand are people like Cleon. He knows his stuff musically, but does not have a social leg to stand on, apparently he feels like he has to show everyone else that he is above him. Oh well, thank you very much. I will try to get the One Size Fits All songbook. Now i'm really craving a We're only in it for the Money songbook

Ignoring all of the miserable-excuse-for-English commentary here. . . . every single note of the damn tune (and key) can be found in the OSFA tab book. Buy it.

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Thank you all for your help, I will be sure to get the OSFA songbook soon. I'm only 17 but I actually understood all of the music theory conversation thanks to my music teacher. What I don't understand is people like Cleon that pick fights with people when he could just as easily make friends with these people, and work together instead of working against eachother. Oh well, thank you again.

Mine's not arrived in the post yet, which is what I get for ordering it just before Xmas.

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The way I see it Barry, this should be a very dynamite show.

Fair enough - but you weren't the one asking for the key of the tune in the first place!

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check your private messages; you may need to have 10 or 11 posts before they show up . . .

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ha! I didn't even see the message that said my posts have to accepted before they are posted. Sorry about double posting.

I applaud you meanea for venturing into this crazy place. Most of us don't understand cleon either. Good luck on your musical quest. Don't be afraid to come back. Most of these freaks are relatively harmless.

You picked the wrong thread too act like a sheep and if you understand so much why do you know so little,cleon did not start nothing or make out he knows more than anybody so what the fuck are you on about Asshole.

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Arf you out of your fucking mind.

Ho yeah you English is crap "apparently he feels like he has to show everyone else that he is above him." see it's stupid and sexiest.

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Arf you out of your fucking mind.

jealousy that word and a load of childish crap made this thread what it is,I cant understand him like a bunch of retards

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Arf you out of your fucking mind.

Could you please speak more clearly....

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Actually I think he has made some progress...

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