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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:20 am 
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just a side note on french press . It is higher in harmful cholesterol causing oil. paper drip filters out the oil in coffee. just in case you have a problem with cholesterol. it is a tasty cup that's for sure. Not sure about espresso but i'm guessing it also has more of the oils. Recently got an espresso machine but i just assume do regular drip. I do like americanos but you get slightly less caffiene with espresso not that it's not enough. Espresso is also less acidic and supposedly tastier due to the quicker process finer grind more surface area etc.. there's a whole science behind it. French press has an almost chocolateyness. I do like it but it's heart attack material.

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just a side note on french press . It is higher in harmful cholesterol causing oil. paper drip filters out the oil in coffee. just in case you have a problem with cholesterol. it is a tasty cup that's for sure. Not sure about espresso but i'm guessing it also has more of the oils. Recently got an espresso machine but i just assume do regular drip. I do like americanos but you get slightly less caffiene with espresso not that it's not enough. Espresso is also less acidic and supposedly tastier due to the quicker process finer grind more surface area etc.. there's a whole science behind it. French press has an almost chocolateyness. I do like it but it's heart attack material.


Just to clarify, as I got most of my coffee education from Starbucks, is a French Press the same as a cafetiere, ie a jug with a depressable filter. If so, this is what I use at home. Easy to use and clean. Good tasting coffee. Cheap too!


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:41 pm 
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I make coffee at home. I used to buy it already made, but this way is lots cheaper.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:12 pm 
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What about those espresso things for your stove top? The hexagonal little pots with the spout?

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[quote="Quilt"][quote="muziko"]paper drip filters out the oil in coffee.

Does that mean that 'paper drip filtered coffee' is the skim milk of the coffee world?


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:22 am 
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Quilt wrote:
Just to clarify, as I got most of my coffee education from Starbucks, is a French Press the same as a cafetiere, ie a jug with a depressable filter. If so, this is what I use at home. Easy to use and clean. Good tasting coffee. Cheap too!


Good question, i was also wondering if they were the same thing. Can anyone clarify ?


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phydeaux3 wrote:
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paper drip filters out the oil in coffee.

Does that mean that 'paper drip filtered coffee' is the skim milk of the coffee world?



yea and instant would be the powdered milk of the coffee world. :mrgreen:

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bkelly wrote:
Quilt wrote:
Just to clarify, as I got most of my coffee education from Starbucks, is a French Press the same as a cafetiere, ie a jug with a depressable filter. If so, this is what I use at home. Easy to use and clean. Good tasting coffee. Cheap too!


Good question, i was also wondering if they were the same thing. Can anyone clarify ?


Same thing. We bought one yesterday and it said both French Press and Cafetiere on the box.
I used to have one of those hexagonal things-really good but you do need a stove to put it on.

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yea and instant would be the powdered milk of the coffee world. :mrgreen:[/quote]

And you'd be surprised how much instant coffee is used the world over! My african friends use nescafe or some crap with canned evaporated milk. yecch!! i heard you can't get a good cup of coffee in new york city and most of the known world like you can here on the west coast.
I really do notice a difference if i drink french press. Like i just stirred in a tablespoon of 30 weight and chocolate. it's real greasy and the oil is not healthy. So i suggest not drinking it everyday for health reasons or health raisins. this paper filter drip works just fine and pretty hassle free. I don't have time to mess with espresso, i don't really care about it. It probably is better for you in the long run, not sure. there is another style that takes out the acidity; water process or something but i don't know about that. here it is
http://www.toddycafe.com/about/news_scripps.php

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muziko wrote:
just a side note on french press . It is higher in harmful cholesterol causing oil. paper drip filters out the oil in coffee. just in case you have a problem with cholesterol. it is a tasty cup that's for sure. Not sure about espresso but i'm guessing it also has more of the oils. Recently got an espresso machine but i just assume do regular drip. I do like americanos but you get slightly less caffiene with espresso not that it's not enough. Espresso is also less acidic and supposedly tastier due to the quicker process finer grind more surface area etc.. there's a whole science behind it. French press has an almost chocolateyness. I do like it but it's heart attack material.

Thanks for the info! I didn't know that. Also, DAMN YOU FOR THAT INFO!

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bkelly wrote:
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I was in World Market with my girlfriend a few weeks ago and wound up looking at French presses. I've never had my coffee that way before, but I'm thinking about giving it a try. Anyone tried it?

Yes madcow, I am ALL about it! Best coffee period. (I am willing to accept dissention on the espresso however!) So cheap and easy! Here's the trick, you need good beans, bare minimum you grind them yourself just before you brew them. You want a coarse grind, don't mash em too much or you wind up drinking sludge. Now here is the trick, pour in the boiling water, and wait FOUR MINUTES. No more, or the bitterness of the bean starts to take over the flavour, no less, or you are just drinking black water. You have to be extremely precise on the four minute rule. Also, I highly recommend buying a steel press, the glass ones break all the time. Good luck and enjoy!


Fowl, you've got me interested in this method now !!



I have done pressed coffee and it is excellent, but in the rush rush world that is my house we have had a Cuisinart for about 7 years, we had to replace the original two years ago as the grinder was beginning to fail.

You place fresh beans in the grinder which grinds the coffee directly into a basket and hot water is ran through and the coffee runs into a thermos type pot. The original was more like an automatic maker with a glass pot and warmer. Removing the pot heater and using a thermos that keeps the coffee warm for an amazingly long time was a huge break-through since it does not overcook the brewed coffee.


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I have done pressed coffee and it is excellent, but in the rush rush world that is my house we have had a Cuisinart for about 7 years, we had to replace the original two years ago as the grinder was beginning to fail.

You place fresh beans in the grinder which grinds the coffee directly into a basket and hot water is ran through and the coffee runs into a thermos type pot. The original was more like an automatic maker with a glass pot and warmer. Removing the pot heater and using a thermos that keeps the coffee warm for an amazingly long time was a huge break-through since it does not overcook the brewed coffee.

Yes, I had a friend with one of those. I stayed with him for a few weeks while we were working together. We used the coffee machine as our alarm clock. I have to tell you that grinder makes a MUCH better wake up call than a beeping alarm. And then as you lazily drag yourself out of sleep, the wafting aroma of brewing coffee is a great incentive to claw out of bed!

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I have a friend who has a Cuisinart but it tastes like he has never cleaned it and I almost barfed from the flavor. ewwww

He lives two blocks up Grant Street from Cafe Trieste!!!!

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I have a friend who has a Cuisinart but it tastes like he has never cleaned it and I almost barfed from the flavor. ewwww

He lives two blocks up Grant Street from Cafe Trieste!!!!



Sounds like a dirty boy...maybe you could introduce him to the finer points of washing eating and drinking utensils. Because one you could be having some damn good coffee and two you may avoid a very unfortunate sickness from eating or drinking at his house.


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If he would have cleaned it out with a little vinegar to neutralize the PH I'm sure it would be better or perhaps some dipit. He's a heavy smoker so I doubt he can taste the difference.

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You might not believe how incredibly complicated some of those commercial coffee makers are. I worked for a year installing and repairing them. People who don't have their coffee can be real jerk-asses.

I'm hooked on the good stuff now...Starbucks, Seattle's Best, ect...your regular Folgers or Yuban tastes like mud now. Really, it's a unncessary habit I could do without. Also, it's a major national addiction no one seems to acknowledge...until they run out or the machine is broken!


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When I lived at a friends' house I had a coffee station set up in the hall outside my bedroom so I didn't have to fall down the stairs first thing in the morning without a coffee in me. :roll:

Another friend has this wonderful device in their kitchen that roasts the raw beans, grinds 'em and brews some serious java. We'll be making a reson for a christmas visit I think...

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This is supposed to good shit! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopi_Luwak
I will pass on that, no pun intended.
According to a medical friend studies reveal
a little coffee is probably good for you overall.
A little kickstart to your system
a strain on your liver but what is a liver for?
I did notice i had more energy when i quit but
when faced with the choice of
lemon water or coffee, i go for the joe.

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I stopped drinking coffee for a while in 1988 and felt sort of run down with no energy...but I also quit cocaine, crystal meth, black beauties, whites, and some other stuff that may have had something to do with it also.

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I am switching to bath water. :mrgreen:

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Scientists Agree: Coffee Naps Are Better Than Coffee or Naps Alone
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Updated Apr 23, 2015, 8:45am

A quick nap before the caffeine kicks in can give you an extra bit of energy that might just be what you need to get through the rest of your day.

If you're feeling sleepy and want to wake yourself up — and have 20 minutes or so to spare before you need to be fully alert — there's something you should try. It's more effective than drinking a cup of coffee or taking a quick nap.

It's drinking a cup of coffee and then taking a quick nap. This is called a coffee nap.

It might sound crazy: conventional wisdom is that caffeine interferes with sleep. But if you caffeinate immediately before napping and sleep for 20 minutes or less, you can exploit a quirk in the way both sleep and caffeine affect your brain to maximize alertness. Here's the science behind the idea.

How a coffee nap works

To understand a coffee nap, you have to understand how caffeine affects you. After it's absorbed through your small intestine and passes into your bloodstream, it crosses into your brain. There, it fits into receptors that are normally filled by a similarly shaped molecule called adenosine.

Adenosine is a byproduct of brain activity, and when it accumulates at high enough levels, it plugs into these receptors and makes you feel tired. But with the caffeine blocking the receptors, it's unable to do so. As Stephen R. Braun writes in Buzz: The Science and Lore of Alcohol and Caffeine, it's like "putting a block of wood under one of the brain’s primary brake pedals."

Now, caffeine doesn't block every single adenosine receptor — it competes with adenosine for these spots, filling some, but not others.

But here's the trick of the coffee nap: sleeping naturally clears adenosine from the brain. If you nap for longer than 15 or 20 minutes, your brain is more likely to enter deeper stages of sleep that take some time to recover from. But shorter naps generally don't lead to this so-called "sleep inertia" — and it takes around 20 minutes for the caffeine to get through your gastrointestinal tract and bloodstream anyway.

So if you nap for those 20 minutes, you'll reduce your levels of adenosine just in time for the caffeine to kick in. The caffeine will have less adenosine to compete with, and will thereby be even more effective in making you alert.

Experiments show coffee naps are better than coffee or naps

Scientists haven't directly observed this going on in the brain after a coffee nap — it's all based on their knowledge of how caffeine, adenosine, and sleep each affect the brain independently.

But they have directly observed the effects of coffee naps, and experiments have shown they're more effective than coffee or naps alone in maximizing alertness.

In a few different studies, researchers at Loughborough University in the UK found that when tired participants took a 15-minute coffee nap, they went on to commit fewer errors in a driving simulator than when they were given only coffee, or only took a nap (or were given a decaf placebo). This was true even if they had trouble falling asleep, and just laid in bed half-asleep during the 15 minutes.

Meanwhile, a Japanese study found that people who took a caffeine nap before taking a series of memory tests performed significantly better on them compared with people who solely took a nap, or took a nap and then washed their faces or had a bright light shone in their eyes. They also subjectively rated themselves as less tired.

Interestingly, there's even some evidence that caffeine naps can help people go for relatively long periods without proper sleep. As part of one study, 24 young men went without proper sleep for a 24-hour period, taking only short naps. Twelve of them, who were given just a placebo, performed markedly worse on a series of cognition tests, compared with their baseline scores. Twelve others, who had caffeine before their naps, managed scores roughly the same as their baselines for the entire day.

How to take a coffee nap

Taking a coffee nap is pretty straightforward. First, drink coffee. Theoretically, you could drink another caffeinated beverage, but tea and soda generally have much less caffeine than coffee, and energy drinks are disgusting. Here's a good database of the amount of caffeine in many types of drinks.

You need to drink it quickly, to give yourself a decently long window of time to sleep as it's going through your gastrointestinal tract and entering your bloodstream. If it's tough for you to drink a lot of hot coffee quickly, good options might be iced coffee or espresso.

Right after you're finished, immediately try to go to sleep. Don't worry if it doesn't come easily — just reaching a tranquil half-asleep stage can be helpful.

Finally, make sure to wake up within 20 minutes, so you don't enter the deeper stages of sleep and you're awake when the caffeine is just starting to hit your brain.

Voilà: the perfect coffee nap.

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