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 Post subject: Fillmore East
PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:08 pm 
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was thinking about picking up this album. what are your thoughts on this one, out of curiosity? :)


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Love the cover...

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First Zappa album I bought. I find it quite hilarious.

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Mud Sh-Sh-Shark!

A fun album.

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Even those who aren't big Flo & Eddie fans love this album. My favorite "What kind of girl do you think we are?" followed by "Bwana Dik" a classic. Definitely an album to use for converting someone to FZ. 8)

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One of my all time faves..... :wink:


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ZardozII wrote:
Even those who aren't big Flo & Eddie fans love this album.


:? Really? This would seem to me to be the album that most typifies what people dislike about that lineup.

Dope album though. I'm a fan of every second of Aynsley's playing with Frank made available.


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Although the comedy material tends to dominate, this album has some very incredible instrumental moments. I think "Little House..." that opens the album is my favorite version of that song. "Peaches" is quite nice here too, and the guitar solo on Willie the Pimp is as raunchy as ever.

Still, not one of my favorites, but it's pretty essential for these reasons as well as its conceptual continuity with 200 Motels.

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Should we tell him about "Willie the Pimp pt.2" being on the vinyl, but missing from the CD release?

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I think you just did.

(part two is INCREDIBLE!!!)

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Y'know what I don't get? If Zappa wanted to remove one of the parts, why did he still call it 'Willie The Pimp, Pt. 1' on the sleeve? Why? What's the point? To just dangle it in our faces, that we're missing out on something?

I've still never heard pt. 2....


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r_a_Z_Z wrote:
ZardozII wrote:
Even those who aren't big Flo & Eddie fans love this album.


:? Really?


Really!!!! 8)

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WORD, YO 8)


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Great LP, I like it better than JABFLA, but not as much as 200 Motels. I Like all the instrumental bits just as much as the dialogue - Little House, Lonesome Electric Turkey and the silly edited WTP guitar solo.

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I listened to the vinyl version today. Sonically it's the worst of the catalog, but it's not awful. I've had this one since I was a kid, it's still one of my favorites.


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I listened to the vinyl version today. Sonically it's the worst of the catalog...

Sonically worse than the stuff with Yoko?

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just plain doug wrote:
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I listened to the vinyl version today. Sonically it's the worst of the catalog...

Sonically worse than the stuff with Yoko?


That's not a full album, it's a small eternity. Yuck.


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I like the Yoko stuff - shoot me.

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Fillmore East always sounded a bit shrill to me. The cd improves the overall SQ but it's still there (the shrill element). I like the album and it's definitely part of the history so I think of it as essential and on par with JABFLA.

Between FE, JABFLA and PP we have most of the Flo & Eddie stuff covered but I would still like to have an officially released complete King Kong and an unedited Sofa Suite.


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I like the Yoko stuff - shoot me.


Her version of the Plastic Ono Band album is actually pretty neat, in small doses. And I actually like a few of her songs on "Double Fantasy".

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I like 'Fly' and some other things, the CD sampler from Onobox is just enough - and it did foreshadow some of the '80s 'experimental' bands, who sold themselves as new to the pseudo-intellectuals.

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FeralCats wrote:
Y'know what I don't get? If Zappa wanted to remove one of the parts, why did he still call it 'Willie The Pimp, Pt. 1' on the sleeve? Why? What's the point? To just dangle it in our faces, that we're missing out on something?

I've still never heard pt. 2....


Yeah kind of annoying, but I guess guess more honest than dropping the "part" from the title.
Frank said he couldn't join the tracks since they were from two different performances and he was loath to make a break in the middle of the CD. This is why "I'm So Cute" is truncated on Sheik Yerbouti and we're missing the guitar solo on "Dumb All Over" on You Are What You Is. In the latter case, Frank said he never liked the solo anyway. :shock: WTF?!?!?


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tweezers wrote:
I like the Yoko stuff - shoot me.


Me too. When do you want me to shoot you?

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Well, I have good seats for the Who at the Borgata on Halloween, so after that 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Fillmore East
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Jeez this is an old thread. But I was looking at the LP and CD versions. I think I made a cassette of it and included all but Do You Like My New Car?
Anyway, I had no recollection of Willie the Pimp part two. Now I have it on CD. Latex Solar Beef now has become a bit of a favorite. Sort of like Heavy Duty Judy.

I don’t have any of the Beat the Boots set, so I don’t have any idea of how this song came about. Ulrich and this site have the same info.
http://www.arf.ru/Notes/Fillmore/lbeef.html

Other than that, I played this LP/my cassette and Chunga’s Revenge a lot more than 200 Motels when they came out. I went to see 200 Motels the movie about that time. I had not looked at the footage for decades until Youtube appeared. It’s quite the challenging concept to pull off and well....sort of hit and miss. The LP still works a bit. I laughed at Cowboy Burt a bit and filed it away. It was years before I got any more orchestral music by Zappa.


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