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I must admit, I like Don more than Frank. Frank just has a larger output.

I've wrestled with this for years, sort of. What do you think of the notion that if Frank's music is like school and life then Don's was like church?

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Insanity!

Complete insanity.

Where is the body of work that compares to FZ?

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One of my all time favorate albums. I do enjoy Lick My Decals alot more though.

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I like Trout Mask well enough for what it is but I will admit I never really listen to it anymore.

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Beefheart and Zappa are completely different creatures. Zappa's whole approach to music is that of a classical composer, and his instrumental compositions are technically in a sphere that Beefheart could never touch.

But when it comes to pop/rock material I don't think Zappa is a true original; his merits are mainly as an arranger and parodist. His lyrics could be funny, but they are not poetic.

A headline in New Musical Express in the beginning of the seventies drew on a punch line from the interview: "The whole idea of poetry just make me gag!"

Beefheart is a true poet and an original music maker with rock (and auxiliary) instruments. Bongo Fury really states the difference between their lyrics with Frank's Debra Kadabra being very beefheartish, but made up of inside jokes, whereas Sam With The Showing Scalp Flat Top and Man With The Woman Head are much more sincere and "picturesque".

/V

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Did FZ really say that? I think that would be kind of amusing in light of the quote posted on one of the rhyming man threads, about how without rap there were be no poetry, or something like that.

I think "Trout Mask" is fine, but it's hard to call it entertaining.

On the way home from work, I listened to Disc 3 of the "Grow Fins" box set, which consists of a rehearsal tape of Trout Mask Replica. If you like this album, and you've never heard this, please, get off your ass. It's just amazing to hear the guitar/bass/drums interplay without the vocals. You'll never hear the album the same way again.

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Let's hear it again for the London Philharmonic Orchestra!

I have some favorite cuts but I find it pretty dense to try and listen to all the way through. I prefer Spotlight Kid and Clear Spot from Beefheart.

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"Mark my words . . . If you continue playing this music something strange may happen."

Trout Mask Replica is one of the best albums ever released.

[size=0]Isaac[/size]

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Baby wants some o' dis
And some o' dat
Don't treat me, baby, like your
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Alley Cat, Alley Cat

Jimmie D Fan

It's an amazing album, but it has it's weak points. Neon Meate Dream Of A Octafish is never enjoyable for me. I don't like China Pig either. But the better tracks like Pachuco Cadaver are really unique and beautiful. My other favourite Beefheart album is The Spotlight Kid which is a lot mellower.

A complete masterpiece.

its a sensation

It's a way of life.

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Really? I love those tracks.

[size=0]Isaac[/size]

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I want dis little pussy
Baby wants some o' dis
And some o' dat
Don't treat me, baby, like your
Any old Alley Cat
Alley Cat, Alley Cat

Jimmie D Fan

It's a brilliant album. I don't tend to compare Zappa and Beefheart cause they scratch two different itches for me.

of course, of course.

I like Don because I'm not a musician. I like how he achieved his goals through sheer force of will (and bullying tactics).

I adore the cover but I have to admit the music baffles me. It's a love/hate situation for me. I definitely have to be in the mood.

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Wow Daisy ! You must have a nice living room !
(with great artwork...)

Fast and Bulbous

good.

Almost.

But I really really like it!

I have to say, the album over a few months has for me, become a head scratcher, a weird album with interesting lyrics, to one of the best albums I've ever heard.

I can't get enough of the song Pachuco Cadaver.

While I prefer Decals and Shiny Beast, Trout Mask is a classic. The first time I heard it, I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

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