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To be honest, I don't really pay much attention to the lyrical content at all, not only with Zappa but with most music I listen to (and my tastes are geared towards mostly instrumental music anyway). I guess not being a native English speaker has something to do with that too, because I have to make an effort to mentally translate the lyrics.

If your english is good, it's pretty easy to understand the lyrics, unless of course you meet words the meanings of which are still unknown to you. I'd agree in the sense that some of the FZ references are too obscure, though, so some of FZ' lyrical implications may be lost on non-American listeners.

You did notice how i cited "Penis Dimension" for example?

That was one song Frank Zappa performed with the Grand Wazoo orchestra and they did an instrumental version out of it which i rather liked. So maybe that's where the point is: this particular song is so well composed it can stand on its own, without any lyrics added at all.

It's not that I don't understand the lyrics (except for some really obscure references), but for me it's pretty easy to disregard them because they're not sung in my native language.

And maybe I just don't really care a lot for lyrics at all... an interesting tune with mediocre lyrics is still a good tune to my ears, but a bland composition with 'deep' lyrics doesn't do a thing for me.

If your english is good, it's pretty easy to understand the lyrics, unless of course you meet words the meanings of which are still unknown to you. I'd agree in the sense that some of the FZ references are too obscure, though, so some of FZ' lyrical implications may be lost on non-American listeners.

Likewise, as I pointed out above, FZ' satire sometimes is astute. And here's a question: did all FZ' targets deserve ridicule? Was there ever a point when FZ went too far?

You know what?

I don't tolerate mediocre or bad music mixed with vulgar lyricism, to tell the truth. I've survived the popularity peak of that dreaded Bloodhound Gang ("The Bad Touch" anyone???) when all the teenagers were brainwashed with that drivel. Likewise, I've heard stuff like "Licensed To Ill" by the Beastie Boys, which is crap compared to their other good albums. It's just so juvenile and lame, ugh and musically not very redeeming either. And Blink 182 has to be one of the worst offenders. It just appeals to the lowest common denominator. As you can see, I've been confronted with some rather grossly stereotypical approaches to politically incorrect popular music and so when FZ makes average three chord pop structured songs and sings about the very subject matter subsequently preferred by any bad alterna-rock group with sexist and macho agenda, then naturally that shit turns me off. Hopefully now you see where I come from.

Likewise, as I pointed out above, FZ' satire sometimes is astute. And here's a question: did all FZ' targets deserve ridicule? Was there ever a point when FZ went too far?

Aybe Sea, doesn't your chin ever get sore?

A little levity, man!!!

Really! It was never Zappa's style just simply to string so-called "vulgarities" together only to pack them in tight and stuff them on some shitty, formulaic music.
I wonder if Aybe Sea ever started out liking some FZ things but then turned against them once his English got good and he suddenly knew what the words meant?
That would really just fucking suck dog dick and lap goat twat!

--Bat

Frank Zappa went to great lengths to be able to say exactly what he wanted to say exactly the way he wanted to say it.

You don't like what he said or how he said it?

Too fucking bad...

to me the funniest FZ song is ''Do You Like My Car'' from "fillmore '71''

and I also find ''Billy The Mountain'' ''Bobby Brown'' "Electric Aunt Jemima" "Yellow Snow" "Stink Foot" "Lumpy Gravy" "Dancin' Fool" "Why Does It Hurt When I Pee" "He's SO Gay" "Montana" "Monster Magnet" funny to name a few.

One could argue Pat Robertson has also gone to great lengths to be able to say exactly what he has wanted to say exactly the way he has wanted to say it.

Does that validate any of Robertson's crap?

Not comparing FZ to Robertson of course. Don't even assume that I do. What I do, however, is question your reasoning to justify absolutely every single thing FZ ever said.