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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:12 am 
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i just recently really got into zappa's music and my uncle was talking about what was his 3 food goups, Caffine,nicotein and.....he wont tell me the last.

supositly if came from a interview from the university of Berkeley somewhere after '87. Can anyone help me out?


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DOG FOOD 8)

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anyone witha real response, because i know that aint it


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In an interview with Frank, on one of his video releases (Video from Hell, I think), he mentions living on cigarettes and "this black liquid" (coffee).
In an interview, published in "BAM Magazine, October 5, 1979" he answers some questions.
Favorite food?
Peanut butter.
Crunch or plain?
Plain.

Perhaps that is number 3.

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Mmmmmm. I was sure it was pussy.

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Mmmmmm. I was sure it was pussy.

O.K., how about pussy with peanut butter on it? It would explain why he doesn't like "crunchy".

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ha ha ha ha, lol, as we all know, choosey Mothers choose Jif!

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just plain doug wrote:
In an interview with Frank, on one of his video releases (Video from Hell, I think)


its not really important but i think its "does humour belong in music"


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just plain doug wrote:
In an interview with Frank, on one of his video releases (Video from Hell, I think), he mentions living on cigarettes and "this black liquid" (coffee).
In an interview, published in "BAM Magazine, October 5, 1979" he answers some questions.
Favorite food?
Peanut butter.
Crunch or plain?
Plain.

Perhaps that is number 3.
on does humor belong in music he says"i live my life eating these things and drinking this black water in this cup"
and on same film he says pass me the Dog Food :wink:
serious i think it is fried spaghetti :P

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cleon wrote:
serious i think it is fried spaghetti :P


either that, or a burnt weeny sandwich.
(a burnt Hebrew National hot dog sandwiched between two pieces of bread with mustard).

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Burnt Weeny Sandwich

A Cleveland favorite since 1999

There are several things that are essential to have before even
beginning to cook this truly excellent dish.

1. You must be very involved in a project or projects which consume a
large amount of your time and are very intricate. Ie: composing
lengthy musical passages, rehearsing musical numbers, creating large
paintings, doing a production run of pottery, writing the important novel of
the 21st century.

2. You must be of very moderate means and have a minimum of kitchen
equipment.

3. You must be very, very, very hungry.

The ingredients:

1. The hot dog or weeny (weenie). Obtain the very best weeny which
will sweat and burn enough yet still stay firm enough. These can be
either the delicatessen style hot dog which contains a mixture of meat
products (mostly pork) and are pale in color and strung together. The
other is a type of hot dog I have only found in Cleveland. They are all
beef, but not kosher, red in color and bundled together in plastic shrink
wrap. They are heaven in natural casings. If you must, get those
terrible mixed chicken or turkey weiners. They are soft and barely
palatable and don't even burn right. Note for vegetarians: You can use the
veggie dogs, but I am not guaranteeing results.

2. The implement. Tongs are nice, and keep your hands cool. If you
are of moderate means, you won't have them, so use a fork. Use a pot
holder or an old towel wrapped around the fork, but only after it gets
hot. A fork will also pierce the weeny so that juices will run over your
heat source, causing flash back. This can be desirable if you like
your weenys very dark. Do tie your hair back, if it is long.

3. The heat source. Do not, under any circumstances use a charcoal
grill. This means you are not fulfilling the above requirments for
creating the Burnt Weeny Sandwich and are just a diletante or worse, a
yuppie. If you are using an open wood fire, you are a Boy Scout. The
preferred heat source is the gas range burner. An electric element can be used as well.

4. The container or receptacle. By no means is a bun neccesary or even
desirable. The very best wrapping is some cheap white bread of the
Wonder or lesser variety. This will act as a sponge to soak up any
drippings or burnt particles.

The Method:

The execution of this dish is very simple. Open the package of
weenys. (biting the package if it proves resistant is exceptable) Secure the
weeny you select firmly on the fork. You must warm up the electric
element beforehand for maybe 5 minutes. With the gas range you just turn
the fire on when you are ready. Remember, to turn it ALL THE WAY UP!
Now you are ready for the burning experience.

Here comes the tricky part. How close to the fire (or element) do you
hold the weeny? This depends on whether you like your weenys rare,
medium or well done. Another consideration is whether you want the weeny
burnt on the outside, yet cool on the inside, evenly cooked all the
way, only burnt in places etc. Also, how hungry are you and how much of a
hurry are you in to return to your life's work? Experimentation is the
key here.

Secondly how do you get it cooked all over? This is where the electric
element has the advantage. Simply hold the hot dog over the entire
element. You should not have to move it around too much, just rotate it,
maybe hold the ends over the heat for a few seconds. With a gas
burner, constant moving is neccesary (unless you are really in a hurry. I
suggest eating them raw in that case) A back and forth motion as the
skin bubbbles and peels back is the way to go here. When you finish one
quadrant, rotate the hot dog to another uncooked side. Be sure as in
the case with the electric element to up end the weeny over the heat
source to make sure you have a proper all over burning.

To Serve:

Release your perfectly cooked weeny from its fork. Say ouch, since you
have used your bare hand to remove it. Nestle your burnt weeny in the
soft cushion of the slice of bread. Use no condiments, this is serious
eating. Otherwise you will lose the full enjoyment of the Burnt Weeny
Sandwich. If you are the manly no holds type of guy, just jam the
weeny sans bread into your mouth.

Now, for gods sake, GET BACK TO WORK!

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Hamburgers?? :P


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Lumpy Gravy wrote:
cleon wrote:
serious i think it is fried spaghetti :P


either that, or a burnt weeny sandwich.
(a burnt Hebrew National hot dog sandwiched between two pieces of bread with mustard).


2 of his favorites from what I've read.


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Teenage boy goes blind after existing on Pringles, white bread and French fries
Jack Guy, CNN
Posted Sep 3, 2019

https://www.wfsb.com/news/teenage-boy-goes-blind-after-existing-on-pringles-white-bread/article_20d4b9ea-52dc-56a5-b76e-2a2a252486a4.html

Eating a diet of French fries, Pringles and white bread was enough to make one teenage boy lose his sight, according to a case study published in a medical journal.

Scientists from the University of Bristol examined the case of a young patient whose extremely picky eating led to blindness, and have warned of the dangers of a poor diet.

The unidentified patient told doctors he had only eaten fries from the fish and chip shop, Pringles potato chips, white bread, slices of processed ham and sausage since elementary school, and he avoided foods with certain textures. He first visited a doctor at age 14, complaining of tiredness, according to a case report published in the Annals of Internal Medicine on Monday.

He wasn't taking any medication, had a normal BMI and height, and showed no visible signs of malnutrition.

Doctors discovered low vitamin B12 levels and anemia, treating the patient with vitamin B12 injections and offering dietary advice.

One year later there were signs of hearing loss and vision symptoms, but doctors did not find the cause.

His vision had worsened to the point of blindness by 17 years of age, and doctors identified vitamin B12 deficiency, low copper and selenium levels, a high zinc level, reduced vitamin D level and bone level density, according to a statement from the University of Bristol.

By this stage, vision damage was permanent.

Researchers from Bristol Medical School and the Bristol Eye Hospital examined the case and concluded that the patient suffered nutritional optic neuropathy, a dysfunction of the optic nerve.

In developed countries it is mostly caused by bowel problems or medication that interferes with the absorption of nutrients, and it is rarely caused entirely by poor diet because food is readily available.

In some places, malnutrition caused by poverty, war and drought is linked to higher rates of nutritional optic neuropathy, according to a statement.

The condition is reversible if treated early but can lead to blindness if no action is taken.

"Our vision has such an impact on quality of life, education, employment, social interactions, and mental health," said study lead author Denize Atan, an ophthalmologist at Bristol Medical School and Bristol Eye Hospital.

"This case highlights the impact of diet on visual and physical health, and the fact that calorie intake and BMI are not reliable indicators of nutritional status."

The researchers say that poor diet and reduced intake of minerals caused vision loss in this case, and warn that nutritional optic neuropathy could become more common due to the consumption of junk food.

They also warned vegans to make sure to supplement for vitamin B12 to avoid deficiency.

To prevent similar cases, doctors should ask patients about their dietary history as part of routine clinical examinations, the researchers urged.

Extreme example

Tom Sanders, a professor of nutrition and dietetics at King's College London, was critical of the case report, saying it relied on the patient's own recall of his eating habits and did not take into account other possible explanations for the condition, including genetic defects or environmental exposures.

"Vitamin B12 deficiency can cause optic neuropathy but it is very unusual to find dietary deficiency when animal products are consumed e.g. ham and sausages which are significant sources of the vitamin B12," he told the Science Media Centre in London.

Gary Frost, a professor of nutrition and dietetics at Imperial College London, who was not involved in the research, told CNN it is incredibly rare for someone in the UK to have a diet so limited it results in micronutrient deficiencies.

"Although it is an extreme example, it highlights the importance of having a wide and varied diet to ensure that you get the profile of nutrients and micronutrients that are needed for healthy development," said Frost.

These deficiencies become more likely the more limited the choice of food, he added.

"Fussy eating is very common in young children and in extreme cases can lead to very limited choice of food," said Frost.

"There is a need to pick up on eating problems such as these as early as possible so the issue around limited textures and tastes can be addressed."


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Potato guy should have stuck to beer and brats. Sauerkraut for vitamins.


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Pizza Is A Healthier Breakfast Than Cereal, Nutritionists Say
It IS the most important meal of the day.
Megan Schaltegger
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https://www.delish.com/food-news/a26408671/pizza-healthier-breakfast-than-cereal/

Pizza for breakfast is an American classic. Whether it's cold and taken straight from the box or served after an early morning reheat, it's basically a delicacy all on its own. However, I've never characterized the tradition in any way, shape, or form as healthy. In fact, I'm pretty sure I haven't ever heard 'pizza' and 'healthy' in the same sentence...until now. According to New York-based nutritionist Chelsey Amer, a cheesy, greasy, carb-filled slice is better for you than your favorite breakfast cereal. So, I guess it's time for us all to rethink our a.m. eating habits—and to celebrate.

Amer credits the high sugar content in most cereals for its poor reputation, while The Daily Meal adds the lack of protein and healthy fats are contributing to its "nutritionally bleak" standing. "You may be surprised to find out that an average slice of pizza and a bowl of cereal with whole milk contain nearly the same amount of calories," Amer told the site. "However, pizza packs a much larger protein punch, which will keep you full and boost satiety throughout the morning."

While it still might be a little far-fetched to call your early morning pizza indulgence a healthy option, it's definitely healthier. That counts for something, right!? Amer does credit its protein content and admits, "a slice of pizza contains more fat and much less sugar than most cold cereals, so you will not experience a quick sugar crash."

That's not to say all pizzas, or cereals, are create equal. According to Health's contributing nutrition editor, Cynthia Sass MPH, RD, not all breakfast cereals have to be off-limits, and some may actually be preferable. "A cereal made with whole grains, nuts or seeds, and fruit with organic grass-fed milk or plant-based milk is a better choice over a grease-laden pizza made with processed meat like pepperoni on a white flour crust," she says.

Is this a win for pizza super fans? Not quite. There are still about million healthier breakfast options, but at least we can feel a little better about the occasional morning slice.


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