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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:51 pm 
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brainpang wrote:
"DAD, I need money! Everything has gone to shit! I thought it would last forever!"

"Fuck it, son. It's a piece of wood and metal parts. Who cares? Cash it in and get that woman off your back."

No shit. If it's Dweezil's guitar he can do what he wants with it. It's no one else's business.
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Sorry. I just can't deal with the censorship of the word FUCK. I don't know what my problem is but it really bothers me. Censoring the word FUCK is like giving in to assholes. Something FZ never seemed to do. It also makes humans look really brain damaged and conflicted. The F and K are cool but not the U and C? We all know what the word is and what it means. Who are we protecting? Fuck!


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Personally, I would never wear a t-shirt with the word "Fuck" on it and I cringe a little bit when I see others exercising their right to free expression so blatantly. There are some societal norms that I prefer to respect. I avoid swearing in front of people I don't know, especially children. Much like we all know that most men have penises I don't go around with mine hanging out of my zipper nor would I appreciate anybody else doing it. Now tits, that's something else entirely!


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KUIII wrote:
Personally, I would never wear a t-shirt with the word "Fuck" on it and I cringe a little bit when I see others exercising their right to free expression so blatantly. There are some societal norms that I prefer to respect. I avoid swearing in front of people I don't know, especially children. Much like we all know that most men have penises I don't go around with mine hanging out of my zipper


Did you compare a word on a shirt to someone having their dick out?

C'mon, man. I was just goofing off but now it's serious.

For the record, KUIII... I'd never wear a tshirt with the word "Fuck" on it, either. Yet Dweezil just manufactured a couple. F%*K is Fuck. The kids know that. Guess you'll be doing some cringing at yer next Dweezil show. Join the club. :wink:

I am careful not to swear in front of kids as well. I don't say "Fuck" in front of people who don't like it. For example, my mom. However, it's 100% their hang up. I respect it because I know they have been conditioned that way. Like how it's okay to say "intercourse" on network television but not "Fuck" when referring to sex. They mean the same thing. It's some kind of letter phobia. But I do go along with it. Don't say "Fuck" in front of the kids but send 'em off to school with their goddamn internet phones to space out on. Don't wanna corrupt 'em.

What it comes down to is I wouldn't use the word "FUCK" in any kind of artistic content if I had to censor the F, U, K or the C. It's too ludicrous and indicative of how stupid we all are. "Artistic expression" is for rising above that shit.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 2:16 pm 
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KUIII wrote:
None of it smells right, Mr. Sausage. I've never heard Moon disparage Frank's "music and work" though she has been critical of her father's lifestyle (lust for groupies, etc.) and her upbringing by both her parents. Then again, I think most of us would be critical of at least some aspects of our parents behaviors and parenting skills.

Your point about Dweezil and the guitars is good though. He was trying to sell the "Hendrix Strat" some years ago for a million dollars. As far as I know there were no takers. If that guitar is really that valuable it kind of makes sense that Gail would want to repossess it especially if Dweezil was just trying to turn it into cash for himself. I know Dweezil sold a lot of his other guitars when he got divorced. I'm sure this was part of the agreement with his ex-wife regarding splitting assets.

I wonder where the Hendrix Strat is now.


I thought Dweezil put the Hendrix Strat up for sale in a charity auction and bought it from himself. I was under the impression he still had it.

Ike Willis told me, over a beer in a San Francisco bar before a Pojama People show, it was his guitar and Dweezil stole it from him, that Frank had given it to him. Consider the source, but plausible.

This whole thing stinks quite honestly. New releases are now on the Zappa website, but now instead of pangs to rush out and order the latest releases I am much more "meh" as I feel like the oldest two kids are getting the royal shaft.


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The Moon quote.


Lastly I have received a slurry of shared sorrow from those of you that heard part two of the DZ/Maron podcast and from those of you that read the LA Times piece. I thank you for your kind words, warmth and good wishes. Thank you for your stories about death and your family shite. I hope my public horror gives you some healing and fodder for carrying on as well… Perhaps I will break that whole Times article down completely at a later date but in the interim…
While Dweezil and I are “beneficiaries”, the ZFT maintains there is no money, hence drastic kickstarters and auctions and Ebay house sale and no guitars for Dweezil and such...So it makes me laugh that Dweezil and I must have “done something” to not receive what isn’t there. Yet…
GZ managed to make 20 million dollars disappear with the team she had in place, the team the ZFT has lovingly kept in place. Does NO-ONE think this is INSANE? Why keep the same team that sank the ship, especially if a secret deal was struck a year earlier with no financial improvements...OR is there secret cash in offshore accounts or secret LLC’s in all their names? I was never paid for Valley Girl...I think that might have brought in a little green...
The writer says Dweezil and I will get paid when the ZFT makes a profit. Bahahahahaha. Does he have this in writing from the ZFT? My Grey Gardens mother and her monetary power grab, shell games were/are a JOKE. See EAT THAT QUESTION and pay particular attention to what my dad said about how “record companies have a peculiar way of making sure your expenses always exceed your profits.” I am certain he’d be HORRIFIED if he knew the wife he entrusted to care for all of us equally turned his homegrown label into the very thing he railed against. I hope my ex sibs wake up and decide to make him proud instead of ashamed. I’d LOVE to be proven wrong about what I am seeing but I tend to share my father’s view that science backs - objects in motion tend to stay in motion.
I wanted to turn our childhood home into a bed and breakfast/museum/retreat center where fans could pilgrimage and artists could record on sacred soil. I wanted to cook meals for you in the real Dangerous Kitchen and teach you yoga in my childhood living room. I wanted Dweezil to give you a master class on music in the home studio playing the guitars he inherited. I wanted Ahmet to give you a tour of his old bedroom and let you slide down his firepole and I hoped you'd watch Bruce Willis movies with Diva in her old bedroom with the glitter floors while she kept steady hands diligently continuing to knit her mile long scarf. I'm sorry the fans will only have "Zappa approved" dry goods and experiences from two of us instead of four. I wanted to write and direct a bio pic and do a 3-D doc on my dad and record an album of songs of my dad's I curated that girls and prudes like me might like with Pharrell Williams producing. I wanted to write and assemble the first four person family memoir about our awesome dad. Just some of my still born ideas...Oh well...
I always gave my mom love because hurt people hurt people, decimated people decimate people. I was clear on that. What I didn’t know was there were other broken people in my family. I can work with and forgive broken if it says sorry and means sorry and does sorry. Here if/when that day ever comes. More than anything I can’t help but wonder how on earth adopting GZ-flavored, rock ‘n’ roll Mommy Dearest, exclusionary and nefarious secret business practices protects OUR father’s legacy or honors HIS wishes? There is no need for secrecy if there is nothing to hide. Getting invited to Prague to hear my father’s music played live is free. Dweezil and I weren’t told about it or invited. Being included is free. Being considered is free. Being respected is free. I guess we really are all grieving in our own ways.
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Moon!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:22 pm 
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Moon, I'm here for you darling. :(


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Does anybody know if Moon was telling the truth about an upcoming book or just goofing around?
12:24 into
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DUynw3aij0


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Joe Blow wrote:
Does anybody know if Moon was telling the truth about an upcoming book or just goofing around?
12:24 into
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DUynw3aij0

She just said that so Ahmet will spend a bunch of money on lawyers to tell her she can't. After he's spent a few thousand, she'll let him know she was just kidding.

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deleted! because the humor/irony of it can easily be misunderstood. My fault!


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 6:27 pm 
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Some interesting statements appeared in the comments section of the recent LA Times article...

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/mu ... 9900003310

1 day ago...

bevdangelo

Gail Zappa was my best friend from 1986 until the day she died.As a close friend of the whole family for decades, it grieves to see such vitriolic dissension.
For the sake of accuracy, Moon Zappa published her first highly regarded novel, " America The Beautiful" in 2001. http://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-7432-1383-7 https://www.amazon.com/America-Beautifu ... 0743213831
More than being " the [offspring] most focused musically", Dweezil Zappa is a Grammy award winning musician: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWoM5Yqt2Es
Importantly, in Frank's will, ( which I was entitled to read because I was named within it) , Frank did empower Gail to take the reigns of the ZFT during her lifetime.
This action allowed Gail to subsequently implement her OWN choices as to how Frank's legacy was handled.
The current " blueprint" for operating the trust is based on Gail's will, not Frank's.
Therefore, it's misleading to present a quote ( highlighted even!) that Frank is "really the person who is guiding things...." , as though Frank's original and specific requests with regard to his estate and the trust are still being followed explicitly.
Using quotes in an article without providing the exact context, or without vetting a claim is a sin of omission that creates an inaccurate picture of the truth.What is a serious legal matter is being presented as nothing more serious than a gossip fest.
Frank's professional life was plagued by pundits who didn't take him seriously. Don't propagate the injustice.

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I've always admired Frank's commitment to transparency and intellectual honesty.I valued the way he exercised his right to speak out publicly. So I decided to try it on for size. Thanks for responding.
I mentioned being a family friend to let people know why I cared about the article in the first place, and to vet myself so to speak, not to claim some inside track on judgement. This isn't about my personal opinions of any of the players- I just figured if the commenters are going pass judgement they should be better informed than this article allows.
I cited the reference to the will because the article refers to Franks' "blue print" as guidance for the current state of things.
"What Frank would have done" isn't really a complete mystery at all. Most prominently, his " blue print" was in his will.
Like all wills and those that involve a trust, Frank's included his choices of executors and successive trustees, as well as disposition of his intellectual property. One example: Gail herself has shared publicly that Frank wanted her to sell all the masters [that she owned at time of his death} and get out of the music business.

Long (even longer)story short Gail had a right to alter what was originally in place when the trust was formed, and she did.
So what's going on now isn't about about what Frank wanted, it's about what Gail wanted.

The conflict we are seeing is about how the present Trustees are exercising their own rights and various options to adhere to, alter or disregard what the Trustor put forth, and how those choices are impacting the beneficiaries.
It happens. And it has happened here.

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What Gail wanted sucks!

(but thanks for the article)


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Sometimes one has to be on the inside to know what is really going on.
Sometimes one has to be a total outsider, detached, to see the truth.
Is that too obvious?


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brainpang wrote:
Sometimes one has to be on the inside to know what is really going on.
Sometimes one has to be a total outsider, detached, to see the truth.
Is that too obvious?

Yes, Grasshopper.


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There's a sorry little Dweezil dipped in turpentine
Face puffed up from smilin’ while cryin’
'Cause his little bruddah’s
Suckin' tit full time
(In the name of The Gourd)

He got a clue from the shrew
Oh yeah, oh yeah
The fan-base thinks you're a jerk
Would he really choose Diva to do His Work?

Ahmet says that he's The One
Oh he sure is, if Armageddon
Is your idea of family fun,
An’ he's got some archival porn for you!
(Now, tell me that don’t take control of you)

feel free to finish the tune!


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Celebrity Real Estate Palace of Rock History: Frank Zappa’s Estate Is on the Market for $5.5M
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Natalia Buenaventura

3:00 pm ET
June 29, 2016June 29, 2016

Ever wanted a home where you can feel history? Feel the rock and roll? Frank Zappa‘s home is now on the market. As expected from the rock and roll icon, the estate is bursting with eclectic decor, memorabilia, and quirky contrasts.

“You feel the history in the house. The studio is the original that Zappa used. It is filled with memorabilia—you know he sat there with other artists. You can feel the rock and roll,” listing agent Rayni Williams told us.

The legendary Los Angeles estate is listed for $5.5 million and features seven bedrooms, six bathrooms, a rooftop tennis court, as well as two guest cottages, and even vintage submarine windows.

The quirky home interior is contrasted by the classic and very European outdoor gardens and sitting areas. Almost every room in the home has immediate access to the outdoors. The vast amount of gardens and sitting areas are described as “magical” by those who have visited.

“When you walk into the house you enter into a massive kitchen that has a very special feel,” said Williams. The spacious, un-kitschy kitchen even has commercial-size appliances.

Though there is always a high demand for celebrity homes, the Zappa house has had an especially large response. Though it isn’t rare to find a Los Angeles home with a famous owner, Williams told us. “The Zappa legacy is huge. We’ve had a huge response from the almost cultlike Zappa following”.

A home with “a few lifetimes’ worth of astounding art, musical instruments, recording gear, artifacts and memorabilia”, as described by the Los Angeles Times, now faces an uncertain future as the Zappa children fight for their inheritance.

Much of the memorabilia and equipment have been removed as Zappa’s children sort through his possessions and archives. In fact, this palace of music history still has the underground storage chamber known as “the vault”—the chamber where Zappa kept his archives under lock and key.

Even if the next buyer isn’t a musician, it will be hard not to rock this house.

http://www.realtor.com/news/celebrity-r ... -for-sale/

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Well, I could scrape up $55,000. I'd just need to get 99 roommates.

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If you have not seen it:
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Very nice, cheers Joe

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Gray_Ghost wrote:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Very nice, cheers Joe

Yes. That's the best video tour I've seen. Say what you will about Gail's handling of the ZFT but she had a beautiful home that I assume she was most responsible for decorating.


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Gray_Ghost wrote:
Celebrity Real Estate Palace of Rock History..."Feel the rock and roll"

Those realtors really know how to ROCK.

FZ could have made a great song out of this absurd headline.


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KUIII wrote:
Gray_Ghost wrote:
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Very nice, cheers Joe

Yes. That's the best video tour I've seen. Say what you will about Gail's handling of the ZFT but she had a beautiful home that I assume she was most responsible for decorating.

That is not the original Zappa interieur. The empty house has been decorated for taking this pictures and videos. No one would be living in a furniture advertising style in real life.


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Another one that cares:
http://carlkingdom.com/open-letter-to-t ... mily-trust

Just one comment to Carl's suggestion: The parking would certainly not be an issue. Lulu Glen Drive can easily accommodate the three cars that would show up on a good day after the opening weekend. Face it, there is no general interest in FZ's work. He was way ahead of his time and now we are all going backwards distancing ourselves even further.


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Joe Blow wrote:
Another one that cares:
http://carlkingdom.com/open-letter-to-t ... mily-trust

Just one comment to Carl's suggestion: The parking would certainly not be an issue. Lulu Glen Drive can easily accommodate the three cars that would show up on a good day after the opening weekend. Face it, there is no general interest in FZ's work. He was way ahead of his time and now we are all going backwards distancing ourselves even further.

Who the fuck is Carl King? Some nobody with an overinflated ego attempting to write himself into the story? Fuck off.

Why he thinks he is in a position to demand answers from a conjecture-based open letter to the ZFT is a mystery to me.


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Why he thinks he is in a position to demand answers from a conjecture-based open letter to the ZFT is a mystery to me.


I like how he volunteers Alice Cooper, Steve Vai, Dream Theatre (???), and Matt Groening's money for the project.

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