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On September 10, 1990, around 8:30AM, in Portugal, for about 50 minutes, a small "balloon" was seen hovering towards a small football field, on a small village called Alfena in the outskirts of Porto. The object was described as "a small turtle with long legs" with a metallic shine. Some of the hundreds or so of people present got scared and a group of construction workers started throwing stones at it, and the object hovered backed away, leaving the site. An amateur photographer took several pictures of the shapeshifting object; the pictures were considered by several experts as real and the many many witness accounts by the simple folks were not considered hoax...

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http://www.ufocasebook.com/2014/alfena-portugal-1990.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_sightings_in_Portugal




September 10, 1990.....the date when the limited edition purple m&m was introduced into the range.....coincidence?


Obviously an Aliens request or Prince intervention.............


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Zappa Jam - Inca Roads

Inca Roads - performed by Gabor, Wan, Monnya, Colelumpkin, T. Dosdogru & M. Kenally.

Recording & rendering by Gabor.

"Inca Roads" is the opening track of the Frank Zappa and The Mothers of Invention 1975 album, One Size Fits All.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn_ZnHYvEUA

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The Phobus monolith

The larger and inner 'moon' of Mars, has a very odd monolithic feature:

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The satellite, Phobus, the greek god of terror...

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The reference scale ...


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Artistic depiction...

Buzz Aldrin mentions during an interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaiSfn8jlxY


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phobos_monolith

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We're Not Alone

By MAUREEN DOWD - JUNE 25, 1997


Talk about your wacky military optimism. Just in time for Independence Day and the big U.F.O. bash in Roswell, the Air Force has finally coughed up an explanation of what happened in the New Mexico desert that caused untold numbers of Americans to believe that the military covered up a 1947 spaceship crash.

The Air Force put an alien on the cover of its Roswell Report and stamped it ''Case Closed.''

Klaatu Barada Nikto. Or as we say in our galaxy, get a grip.

The Roswell report will settle the debate over aliens about as well as the Warren report settled the debate over the single-bullet theory.

There is a perfectly logical explanation, Col. John Haynes told tittering reporters at the Pentagon. The Air Force was taking 200-pound crash dummies up as high as 98,000 feet and dropping them from balloons and planes to see what would happen. Some of the dummies lost fingers and legs in Project High Dive, leaving them -- doo-doo-DOO-doo -- four-fingered and four feet tall.

The Air Force also ventured that a serviceman had crashed in a test balloon near Roswell, suffering cranial swelling that might have made him look like an extraterrestrial.

Oh, that sounds plausible, coming from the folks who brought you Agent Orange, optimistic body counts in Vietnam and denials of chemical weapons in the gulf. And why has the Air Force never mentioned the skies raining dummies, even in the 1994 report on Roswell?

The new report, with sections that sound like ''The X-Files'' episodes (''The Alien at the Hospital,'' ''The Missing Nurse'') will simply be taken as another sign that the truth is out there.

Here is how the Air Force tries to rebut witness descriptions of the ''mysterious little men.'' A witness said, ''Their heads were hairless . . . no eyebrows, no eyelashes, no hair.'' The Air Force said: ''Anthropomorphic dummies did not have 'hair.' '' A witness said, ''No visible ears.'' The Air Force said, ''Dummies had ears that were molded to their heads . . .''

Colonel Haynes could not explain why dummies dropped in the 50's could account for what witnesses saw in 1947, except to say that witnesses might have been mixed up. And he refused to reveal anything about Area 51, a military facility in Groom Lake, Nev., except to say, ''classified things go on there.''

This cover-up may be bigger than we thought. The briefing with Colonel Haynes indicates that aliens may now be working at the highest levels of government. Only aliens would be unsophisticated enough about American culture to think they could dispel suspicions of their presence here by issuing a government report.

Indeed, aliens infiltrating Washington with the aim of destroying the fabric of democracy is a perfectly coherent explanation for a lot of hitherto inexplicable phenomena.

If the military leadership hasn't been body-snatched, then why is the Pentagon conspiring against itself with weird sexual inquisitions? If you were the leader of a hostile galaxy, what better way to disarm the earthlings than to make the chairmanship of the Joint Chiefs too pure a job to fill?

Consider this description by a Roswell witness, Frank Kaufmann, 81, who said the aliens ''were very good looking people, ash-colored faces and skin . . . about 5-feet-5 tall, eyes a little more pronounced, small ears, small nose, fine features and hairless.'' The spitting image of Dick Gephardt, obviously.

And doesn't that alien with the big eyes and light-bulb head on the cover of Time bear an ominous resemblance to Bob Kerrey? (D-Pluto.)

Does anyone seriously believe that James Carville and Janet Reno were born on earth? Don't Dick Armey, Bob Bennett, Brian Lamb and Erskine Bowles all have the look of people who were kidnapped and experimented on in a flying saucer? Why else would the President suggest that middle-class people could be lured back to live amid urban blight by offering them a $200 break on their closing costs for a new house? And why else would he talk about rewriting the rules of human evolution, and creating a truly multi-racial democracy? Maybe he doesn't mean just the human race.

It's a strange day in America when the Steven Spielberg view of life and the Oliver Stone view of life coincide.

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/06/25/opinion/we-re-not-alone.html

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Trump's immigrant crime hotline trolled with calls about aliens and UFOs

When the US government uses the term "criminal alien", it means someone who is not a US citizen that has been convicted of a crime.


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Twitter, meanwhile, thinks flying saucers and The X-Files.

On Wednesday, the Department of Homeland Security opened a new office, called VOICE, to "serve the needs of crime victims and their families who have been impacted by crimes committed by removable criminal aliens".

The centrepiece is a new hotline that victims can call for support and assistance. It was set up under the authority of an executive order on immigration from President Trump in January.

People began making clear exactly what people should not be using the line for.
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And soon, people inevitably said they were beginning to call the hotline to report "criminal alien" activity of a different kind than that envisioned by Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly.

He said at the launch of VOICE on Wednesday that the victims were "unique, and too often ignored".

"They are casualties of crimes that should never have taken place," he said. "Because the people who victimised them often times should not have been in the country in the first place."

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It's unclear how many people actually placed calls to the hotline, and several Twitter users reported long wait times to get through. But the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency suggested it had impacted their service.

"There are certainly more constructive ways to make one's opinions heard than to prevent legitimate victims of crime from receiving the information and resources they seek because the lines are tied up by hoax callers," a spokesperson told Buzzfeed News

President Trump famously enraged Mexicans by suggesting in June 2015 that the country's immigrants were criminals and "rapists", and he has continued to take a tough line on illegal immigration since entering the White House.

Steep decreases in the number of people arrested while illegally crossing the border from Mexico in recent months have been touted by the administration as a sign that Mr Trump's policies are having the desired effect.

The government says the VOICE office will keep victims of alleged crimes by undocumented migrants updated as the suspect moves through the immigration system, including if they are deported.

Opponents of the administration's policies and rhetoric focusing on immigrants and crime point out that numerous studies have shown immigrants are less likely to commit serious crimes or be jailed than the native-born population.

The American Immigration Council says this "holds true for both legal immigrants and the unauthorised, regardless of their country of origin or level of education".

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39731085

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Comet Likely Didn't Cause Bizarre 'Wow!' Signal (But Aliens Might Have)

By Jesse Emspak, Live Science Contributor | June 12, 2017 09:11am ET

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An astronomer thinks he's pinpointed the source of a mysterious radio signal from space: a passing comet that nobody knew about. But his colleagues said they're still skeptical of the explanation, noting that comets don't emit radio waves in the right way.

Antonio Paris, an astronomer at St. Petersburg College in Florida, recently published a paper in the Journal of the Washington Academy of Sciences saying the mysterious "Wow! signal," a truly bizarre radio signal detected almost 40 years ago, seems to match up with the location of a comet called 266P/Christensen that hadn't been cataloged at the time. (The comet was discovered more recently, in 2006. Originally, Paris' hypothesis was that a second comet might also be the culprit, one called P/2008 Y Gibbs.) Explanations for the Wow! signal have ranged from intermittent natural phenomena, to secret spy satellites, to, yes, aliens.

Others aren't so sure. "We do not believe the two-comets theory can explain the Wow! signal," Jerry Ehman, the astronomer who discovered the Wow! signal in 1977, told Live Science. [5 Times We Thought We Found Aliens]

Wow! signal

The Wow! signal's name comes from just how striking and strange it was. The radio signal appeared on the night of Aug. 15, 1977, when it was picked up by the Big Ear radio telescope at The Ohio State University. It lasted 72 seconds. It was "loud" — more intense than anything in the background sky that night. It was also a narrow-bandwidth signal; the range of frequencies it covered was small, similar to those of artificial signals. AM radio, for example, has channels that are only 10,000 cycles above or below the designated frequency on the dial. Further, the signal was at a frequency of about 1,420 megahertz (MHz), also called the 21-centimter line. That's the same frequency as radio waves emitted by neutral hydrogen gas in space. It's a region that is relatively free of noise from other objects, and one researchers involved in the search for extraterrestrial intelligence have been interested in for a long time because it could be used for interstellar transmissions.

The signal did not repeat, and subsequent attempts to find it proved fruitless. Ehman marked "Wow!" in red pen on a printout that shows the numbers representing the signal.

Back in 1977, the now-dismantled Big Ear telescope was looking for alien signals, in an early iteration of the search for extraterrestrial intelligence, or SETI. But no one expected to see anything like the Wow! signal, and the Big Ear telescope heard nothing like it again.

Without a repeat signal, it was impossible to tell what it was; even getting a precise location wasn't easy because the signal was short-lived. Ehman, now retired, told Live Science that, beyond a certain distance, it's hard to tell how far away a radio signal is coming from.
Comet signature

In his paper, Paris wrote that comets will, under certain conditions, emit radio waves from the gases that surround them as they zoom closer to the sun. According to the study, Comet 266P/Christensen was in about the right position on the right day in 1977. Paris first floated the idea in early 2016, and proposed a program of using radio telescopes to listen for the emission of such radio waves. [Face on a Comet: Ghostly Faces in Space]

The comet project had three phases. "The first phase was the hypothesis, which led to the second phase: Do comets emit 1,420 [MHz signals]? It appears yes, they do," Paris told Live Science.

In the third phase, set for 2018, Paris plans to explore the mechanisms of the emissions —why comets should generate radio waves at that particular wavelength. Paris said little research has been done on the topic.

"There have been a handful of studies, but I suspect we are the first to specifically build a 10-meter radio telescope to specifically look at this type of solar system body," he said.

To see if a signal could have come from comets, Paris first used a radio telescope to look at the sky in the region of the Wow! signal. With this step, he wanted to see what the background looked like at the relevant frequency. He also checked two other comets to be sure that they did, in fact, emit radio signals at the 1,420-MHz frequency, and found that they did.

Then, in January, Paris directed the radio telescope to point at Comet 266P/Christensen as it passed through the region of the sky where the Wow! signal was seen. (Comet 266P/Christensen has an orbital period of about 6.65 years, and its apparent location in the sky will vary depending on where Earth is in its own orbit around the sun. The comet passed near, but not exactly, where the Wow! signal was — about 2 degrees north of the Wow! signal location.
Skepticism abounds

Yet several astronomers, including Ehman, think Paris is wrong about the comet. Ehman looked at Paris' study with Robert Dixon, who directs the radio observatory at The Ohio State University (Big Ear was destroyed in 1997). Two big issues are that the signal didn't repeat, and it appeared for such a short time. Ehman noted that the Big Ear telescope had two "feed horns," each of which provides a slightly different field of view for a radio telescope. [5 Huge Misconceptions about Aliens]

"We should have seen the source come through twice in about 3 minutes: one response lasting 72 seconds and a second response for 72 seconds following within about a minute and a half," Ehman told Live Science. "We didn't see the second one."

The only way that can happen, he said, is if the signal was cut off abruptly. A comet wouldn't produce that kind of signal, because the gases that surround them cover large, diffuse areas. Nor would the comet have escaped from the radio telescope's field of view that fast.

But Ehman isn't convinced it's aliens, either. There are many phenomena that show sudden appearances and disappearances of radio signals, including fast radio bursts (FRBs), which are mysterious radio bursts with hotly-debated astrophysical origins that generate irregular signals that last only milliseconds. If the the Big Ear picked up only the tail end of such an emission, the data could look similar to the Wow! signal, Ehman speculated.

"The issue with the feed horns is something no one can explain, including me," Paris said. "There is some data out there to suggest the issue is at the telescope end and not the phenomenon itself." So it's possible that the signal could have been caused by a glitch in the Big Ear telescope.

The other issue is the frequency of transmission. Paris said he has shown that comets can emit in that range, but Seth Shostak, a senior astronomer at the SETI Institute, is skeptical. Shostak used to study emissions from neutral hydrogen in the 1,420-MHz range, and is less sure the emission would look right. Comets may not generate enough hydrogen to make a bright enough signal like Wow!.

"I don't think anyone ever found such emission from comets," Shostak told Live Science.

Originally published on Live Science.

https://www.livescience.com/59442-astronomers-skeptical-about-wow-signal.html

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While I agree with your analysis of "Inca Roads", I have to point out that "We Are Not Alone" had lyrics at one point in its development. This is what I found on http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/songs/We ... Alone.html Comments:  
From: Jon Naurin  WANA w/ vocals is part of "Stevie's Real Spanking", a collage of home made recordings by Steve Vai. I don't know if there are lyrics for all of the song, but this is what I've heard sung during the bridge (from 1981 rehearsals).
From: Charles Ulrich    Here are the corrected lyrics to "We Are Not Alone". Jon's "Harris Rolling" sounds right to me, but it should be verified by someone who has actually heard of the brand.
From: Biffyshrew was a banana and a Harris Rolling [???] stereo  If I remember right, that last line is "Was the banana and the hairbrush both in stereo" (by which I understand him to be talking about double    penetration).
She had a hairbrush with a dildo at the end of it
She wanted Stevie to go in and out a little bit He then decided that an even better way to go Was a banana and a Harris Rolling [???] stereo (or: Was the banana and the hairbrush both in stereo) He took the challenge and he revved it up to warp nine
She said that he should be a porno-poocher all the time<br>He rubbed again and then adjusted his bikini shorts
And tried to talk her into rubber love and water sports<br>

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Inca Mummies?

Proof of aliens or another hoax? Conspiracy theorists claim they have found a three-fingered 'mummified humanoid' with an elongated skull in a South American cave


-They say the 'mummified humanoid' was found near the city of Nazca
-It is around 5 foot 6 inches tall and has similar proportions to humans
-But not everyone is convinced of the finding, and some suggest it is plastercast
-One member of the team who 'found' the humanoid is also infamous for his involvement in several high-profile UFO hoaxes

A group of self-proclaimed paranormal researchers claim they have found proof of aliens near the city of Nazca in Peru.

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A group of self-proclaimed paranormal researchers may have found proof of aliens near the city of Nazca in Peru. The team claim to have found a mysterious three-fingered 'mummified humanoid' (pictured) with an elongated skull

The team say they have found a mysterious three-fingered 'mummified humanoid' with an elongated skull.

But not everyone is convinced of the finding, and one UFO expert says that this is simply a plastercast model.

In a short documentary on the bizarre find, Dr Konstantin Korotkov, a professor at Saint-Petersburg University, says that these features are not a deformity, but that the individual is 'another creature, another humanoid.'

The body was found covered in white powder, which the team say was used to preserve the remains.

They claim that carbon dating samples of the body dates between 245 – 410 AD, though the validity of these tests has not yet been verified.

Writing for conspiracy theory website Ancient-origins, anthropologist Alicia McDermot said: 'Open-minded scientists studying human origins may find themselves in a situation where they have to identify this surprising discovery as true, probable, or a false find.

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'It is important in these situations to remain curious yet skeptical.

'We should keep an open mind yet stay apprehensive about jumping to conclusions on new discoveries, even if they seem incredible at first.

Read more:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4629854/Mysterious-three-fingered-alien-mummy-Peru.html

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Interstellar asteroid checked for alien technology

A project searching for intelligent life in the cosmos is going to check the first known interstellar asteroid for signs of alien technology.


The odd-shaped object was detected as it sped towards the Sun on 19 October.

Its properties suggested it originated around another star, making it the first such body to be spotted in our cosmic neighbourhood.

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An initiative backed by billionaire Yuri Milner will use a radio telescope to listen for signals from it.

The team's efforts will begin on Wednesday, with astronomers observing the asteroid, which is currently speeding away from our Solar System, across four different radio frequency bands.

The first set of observations at the Robert C Byrd Green Bank Telescope in West Virginia is due to last for 10 hours.

Interstellar visitor given a name

Bizarre shape of interstellar asteroid

Previous observations of the object, called 'Oumuamua, have noted its strange, elongated shape, making it look a bit like a cigar.

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http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-42329244

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Interstellar asteroid checked for alien technology

A project searching for intelligent life in the cosmos is going to check the first known interstellar asteroid for signs of alien technology.


The odd-shaped object was detected as it sped towards the Sun on 19 October.

Its properties suggested it originated around another star, making it the first such body to be spotted in our cosmic neighbourhood.

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An initiative backed by billionaire Yuri Milner will use a radio telescope to listen for signals from it.

The team's efforts will begin on Wednesday, with astronomers observing the asteroid, which is currently speeding away from our Solar System, across four different radio frequency bands.

The first set of observations at the Robert C Byrd Green Bank Telescope in West Virginia is due to last for 10 hours.

Interstellar visitor given a name

Bizarre shape of interstellar asteroid

Previous observations of the object, called 'Oumuamua, have noted its strange, elongated shape, making it look a bit like a cigar.

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http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-42329244


It's all that is left of The Borg.....just a nub of The Borg :lol:

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On the Trail of a Secret Pentagon U.F.O. Program

Our readers are plenty interested in unidentified flying objects. We know that from the huge response to our front-page Sunday article (published online just after noon on Saturday) revealing a secret Pentagon program to investigate U.F.O.s. The piece, by the Pentagon correspondent Helene Cooper, the author Leslie Kean and myself — a contributor to The Times after a 45-year staff career — has dominated the most emailed and most viewed lists since.


So how does a story on U.F.O.s get into The New York Times? Not easily, and only after a great deal of vetting, I assure you.

The journey began two and a half months ago with a tip to Leslie, who has long reported on U.F.O.s and published a 2010 New York Times best seller, “UFOs: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go on the Record.” At a confidential meeting Oct. 4 in a Pentagon City hotel with several present and former intelligence officials and a defense contractor, she met Luis Elizondo, the director of a Pentagon program she had never heard of: the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program.

She learned it was a secret effort, funded at the initiative of the then Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, starting in 2007, to investigate aerial threats including what the military preferred to call “unidentified aerial phenomena” or just “objects.” This was big news because the United States military had announced as far back as 1969 that U.F.O.s were not worth studying. Leslie also learned that Mr. Elizondo had just resigned to protest what he characterized as excessive secrecy and internal opposition — the reason for the meeting.

She spent hours with him reviewing unclassified documents, for the $22 million program operated largely “in the white” (that is, not under special restricted access), but hidden in the huge defense budget, with only parts of it classified. A few days later Mr. Elizondo and others there — including Harold E. Puthoff, an engineer who has conducted research on extrasensory perception for the C.I.A. and later worked as a contractor on the program, and Christopher K. Mellon, a former deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence — announced they were joining a new commercial venture, To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science, to raise money for research into U.F.O.s. Leslie wrote it up for the Huffington Post with scant details of the program.

I had known Leslie for years, and she told me this looked like a story for The Times. I agreed. Leslie and I met with Mr. Elizondo in Philadelphia on Oct. 31. Three days later, I emailed the executive editor, Dean Baquet, about “a sensational and highly confidential time-sensitive story” that I said “involves a senior U.S. intelligence official who abruptly quit last month” exposing “a deeply secret program, long mythologized but now confirmed.”

He alerted Mark Mazzetti, the investigations editor in the Washington bureau. Leslie and I briefed him in New York on Nov. 7. We assured him there were no anonymous sources; everyone was on the record. After discussions in Washington and New York, Helene joined our team. The Washington bureau chief, Elisabeth Bumiller, would be our editor. On Nov. 17, we three met Mr. Elizondo in a nondescript Washington hotel where he sat with his back to the wall, keeping an eye on the door.

Carl Hulse, The Times’s chief Washington correspondent, was well acquainted with Mr. Reid and helped arrange an interview for Helene. She flew to Las Vegas on Dec. 5 and met with the former senator, who confirmed the program with details, saying, “I’m not embarrassed or ashamed or sorry I got this going.”

Leslie interviewed the aerospace magnate Robert Bigelow, who also confirmed his participation, saying Americans were being held back from serious research into U.F.O.’s by “a juvenile taboo.” And I interviewed a prominent skeptic for perspective.

It was important that we not take anything on faith. This field attracts zealots as well as debunkers, and many Americans remain deeply skeptical that the phenomenon exists as popularly portrayed. In draft after draft, we took pains to let the investigation speak for itself, without bias.

Helene met with a Pentagon spokesperson on Dec. 8 for a response to the information we had gathered. The answer came swiftly. There had been a program to investigate U.F.O.s, but it ended in 2012 after five years, the Defense Department insisted.

Our reporting suggested it continues, largely unfunded, to the present. And that’s what we wrote.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/18/insider/secret-pentagon-ufo-program.html

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Ex-UFO program chief: We may not be alone
Luis Elizondo, a former military intelligence official who ran the Pentagon's secret UFO unit, says it is his personal view given all the evidence he's seen that we may not be alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2b4qSoMnKE

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They have been prepping us for decades to release the true, this is a huge step... :idea:


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What about the invisible aliens that have no body?

How do I verify their presence?


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What about the invisible aliens that have no body?

How do I verify their presence?


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What about the invisible aliens that have no body?

How do I verify their presence?

you just did.


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Disclosure: It has begun...

2017-12-17 - Interview with Ralph Blumenthal - Pentagon UFO Study
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-Dp1FzKods

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:59 pm 
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Amazing video Do you believe this Navy pilots UFO story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXudwGRm0zE


Former Senator who backed UFO Unit: "NOW WE HAVE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLhtnEnHxy8


What We Do — and Don't — Know About the Pentagon's Secret UFO Program
https://science.howstuffworks.com/space/aliens-ufos/what-do-and-don-t-know-about-pentagon-s-secret-ufo-program.htm

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2017-12-19 - News Report about Pentagon UFO Study
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L4gx-Qzeyc


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Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program

The Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program (AATIP) was a secret investigatory effort funded by the United States government to study unidentified flying objects, but it was not classified. It was first made public on 16 December 2017. The program began in 2007, with funding of $22 million over the five years until the available appropriations were ended in 2012. The program began in the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Aviation_Threat_Identification_Program

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And here it comes... :shock:


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And here it comes... :shock:


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