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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:56 pm 
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1561 celestial phenomenon over Nuremberg

The 1561 celestial phenomenon over Nuremberg was a mass sighting of celestial phenomena or unidentified flying objects (UFO) above Nuremberg, Germany. The phenomenon has been interpreted by some modern UFO enthusiasts as an aerial battle of extraterrestrial origin.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:17 am 
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Liquid water 'lake' revealed on Mars

By Mary Halton Science reporter, BBC News

Researchers have found evidence of an existing body of liquid water on Mars.

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What they believe to be a lake sits under the planet's south polar ice cap, and is about 20 km (12 miles) across.

Previous research found possible signs of intermittent liquid water flowing on the martian surface, but this is the first sign of a persistent body of water on the planet in the present day.

Lake beds like those explored by Nasa's Curiosity rover show water was present on the surface of Mars in the past.

However, the planet's climate has since cooled due to its thin atmosphere, leaving most of its water locked up in ice.

The result is exciting because scientists have long searched for signs of present-day liquid water on Mars, but these have come up empty or yielded ambiguous findings. It will also interest those studying the possibilities for life beyond Earth - though it does not yet raise the stakes in the search for biology.

The discovery was made using Marsis, a radar instrument on board the European Space Agency's (Esa) Mars Express orbiter.

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The proposed lake sits beneath ice near the south pole of Mars

"It's probably not a very large lake," said Prof Roberto Orosei from the Italian National Institute for Astrophysics, who led the study.

Marsis wasn't able to determine how thick the layer of water might be, but the research team estimate that it is a minimum of one metre.

"This really qualifies this as a body of water. A lake, not some kind of meltwater filling some space between rock and ice, as happens in certain glaciers on Earth," Prof Orosei added.

How was it found?

Radar instruments like Marsis examine the surface and immediate subsurface of the planet by sending out a signal and examining what is bounced back.

The continuous white line at the top of the radar results above marks the beginning of the South Polar Layered Deposit; a filo pastry-like accumulation of water ice and dust.

Beneath this, researchers spotted something unusual 1.5km under the ice.

"In light blue you can see where the reflections from the bottom are stronger than surface reflection. This is something that is to us the tell tale sign of the presence of water," says Prof Orosei.

What does this mean for life?

Nothing definitive. Yet.

Dr Manish Patel from the Open University explained: "We have long since known that the surface of Mars is inhospitable to life as we know it, so the search for life on Mars is now in the subsurface.

"This is where we get sufficient protection from harmful radiation, and the pressure and temperature rise to more favourable levels. Most importantly, this allows liquid water, essential for life."

This principle of following the water is key to astrobiology - the study of potential life beyond Earth.

So while the findings suggest water is present, they don't confirm anything further.

"We are not closer to actually detecting life," Dr Patel told BBC News, "but what this finding does is give us the location of where to look on Mars. It is like a treasure map - except in this case, there will be lots of 'X's marking the spots."

The water's temperature and chemistry could also pose a problem for any potential martian organisms.

In order to remain liquid in such cold conditions (the research team estimate between -10 and -30 Celsius where it meets the ice above), the water likely has a great many salts dissolved in it.

"It's plausible that the water may be an extremely cold, concentrated brine, which would be pretty challenging for life," explained Dr Claire Cousins, an astrobiologist from the University of St Andrews, UK.
What next?

While its existence provides a tantalising prospect for those interested in the possibility of past or present life on Mars, the lake's characteristics must first be verified by further research.

"What needs to be done now," explained Dr Matt Balme from the Open University, "is for the measurements to be repeated elsewhere to look for similar signals, and, if possible, for all other explanation to be examined and - hopefully - ruled out.

"Maybe this could even be the trigger for an ambitious new Mars mission to drill into this buried water-pocket - like has been done for sub-glacial lakes in Antarctica on Earth," he added.

Scientists have previously claimed to find bacterial life in the buried depths of Antarctica's Lake Vostok, but drilling on Mars would make for an ambitious project indeed.

"Getting there and acquiring the final evidence that this is indeed a lake will not be an easy task," said Prof Orosei.

"It will require flying a robot there which is capable of drilling through 1.5km of ice. This will certainly require some technological developments that at the moment are not available."

The findings were reported in Science.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44952710

...don't touch that dial, coming next: Life on Mars...

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Harvard Researchers: ‘Oumuamua Could Be an Alien Probe After All

Our first confirmed interstellar visitor was a tough nut to crack. Scientists puzzled over ‘Oumuamua when it appeared in the sky last year. The classification flipped back and forth a few times before eventually landing on “comet,” but it’s a weird comet. Now, researchers from the Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics have revived the idea that ‘Oumuamua could be an alien spacecraft.

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While we’ve recategorized ‘Oumuamua a few times, we can say with utmost certainty that it came from another solar system. It has an orbital eccentricity of 1.20, which is far past the sun’s escape velocity. Nothing in the solar system could reach that speed naturally without a cataclysmic release of energy that we would have noticed.

‘Oumuamua was already on its way out of the solar system and moving at high speed when we spotted it, so there was no time to build and launch a mission to intercept it. We haven’t even gotten a very good look at the object. Scientists believe ‘Oumuamua is cigar-shaped and up to 120 meters in length. That’s an unusual shape for an asteroid (at least in this solar system) so the discoverers initially categorized it as a comet. Then, scientists looked closer and saw no coma, the cloud of dust and gas that surround a comet when it nears the sun. So, an asteroid? Upon even closer examination, researchers found ‘Oumuamua’s orbit was being nudged by a force consistent with gas release. Currently, ‘Oumuamua is considered a low-activity comet.

The newly released paper (which hasn’t been peer-reviewed yet) suggests another option. What if the small force acting on ‘Oumuamua is not from gas release? The study suggests that ‘Oumuamua could have an odd orbit because it’s an alien space probe with a solar sail. A solar sail is a concept for a low-power propulsion system currently in testing at a number of companies and space agencies around the world. The sail would use the pressure of the solar radiation to propel a craft forward continuously. Over time, a solar sail could reach high speeds, possibly even leaving the solar system.

The researcher making this proposal are not presenting evidence that ‘Oumuamua actually has a solar sail — there’s no way to know that with current technology. Instead, they seek to demonstrate that it is possible based on what we know of the physics of solar sails and the orbit of ‘Oumuamua. The study concludes that it’s possible that ‘Oumuamua is being dragged along by a solar sail, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s an active alien probe.

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Researchers scanned ‘Oumuamua back in 2017 to look for any electromagnetic emissions, finding nothing. At that point, they deemed it not an alien ship. The new study suggests ‘Oumuamua could be non-functional debris with a bit of light sail material clinging on. Alternatively, it could be a probe in a low-power mode that we cannot characterize. Unfortunately, we’ll probably never know for sure what ‘Oumuamua is — it’s already long gone.

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/280217-researchers-suggest-oumuamua-could-be-an-alien-probe-after-all

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Several pilots spot UFOs off Irish coast
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An investigation has been launched after several pilots spotted mysterious lights off the south-west coast of Ireland.

The incident happened on November 9 as the pilot from British Airways flight BA94 from Montreal to London, and a Virgin Airlines pilot of VS76 from Orlando to Manchester noticed the objects. Other unidentified pilots also saw the lights.

The pilot from BA94 queried air traffic controllers in Shannon if military exercises were taking place.

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The Virgin flight was heading to Manchester when a pilot saw the lights.

They said no, and that nothing was showing on the radar.
"OK. It was moving so fast," said the BA pilot.


She said it came along the left-hand side of the plane before veering rapidly north.

"It was a bright light and then just disappeared at very high speed."

The pilot on VS76, who also witnessed two bright lights, offered a possible explanation.

"Meteor or another object making some kind of re-entry - multiple objects following the same sort of trajectory – very bright from where we were."

Both planes were said to be in high-level airspace - which is an altitude between 28,500ft and 42,000ft.

Airlive reports that the Irish Aviation Authority is "investigated under the normal confidential occurrence investigation process".

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https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/108 ... land-coast

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:50 am 
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Nice. Would a "meteor or another object" be shown on radar?

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Nice. Would a "meteor or another object" be shown on radar?


It would be obvious from trajectory and speed that it was, my Dad was one of the first Radar Operators and did between 2 and 3 years in the South Pacific during WWII...back in the 60's and 70's when they would say that a radar hit was a weather inversion layer, or some other thing or object he would say that was bullshit because any radar operator who knows what he is doing can tell the difference, his life depended on knowing they were stationed behind enemy lines on an island during the war... :idea:


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How could aliens find us?

We've been sending signals into the universe for decades but what if we stopped - could aliens still find us?


https://www.bbc.com/ideas/videos/how-could-aliens-find-us/p073jvp0

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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 8:00 am 
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Frank Zappa round table discussion on John Barbour's 'Friday Night Live Talk Show' Throwback
Frank Zappa in a wonderful round table discussion which includes Paul Krasner..Editor of The Realist..the funniest counterculture news magazine of the 60's and 70's, and Bill Moore, an author and former UFO researcher, prominent from the late 1970s to the late 1980s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0o6S-hqTzA

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‘Wow, What Is That?’ Navy Pilots Report Unexplained Flying Objects

By Helene Cooper, Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kean


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WASHINGTON — The strange objects, one of them like a spinning top moving against the wind, appeared almost daily from the summer of 2014 to March 2015, high in the skies over the East Coast. Navy pilots reported to their superiors that the objects had no visible engine or infrared exhaust plumes, but that they could reach 30,000 feet and hypersonic speeds.

“These things would be out there all day,” said Lt. Ryan Graves, an F/A-18 Super Hornet pilot who has been with the Navy for 10 years, and who reported his sightings to the Pentagon and Congress. “Keeping an aircraft in the air requires a significant amount of energy. With the speeds we observed, 12 hours in the air is 11 hours longer than we’d expect.”

In late 2014, a Super Hornet pilot had a near collision with one of the objects, and an official mishap report was filed. Some of the incidents were videotaped, including one taken by a plane’s camera in early 2015 that shows an object zooming over the ocean waves as pilots question what they are watching.

“Wow, what is that, man?” one exclaims. “Look at it fly!”

No one in the Defense Department is saying that the objects were extraterrestrial, and experts emphasize that earthly explanations can generally be found for such incidents. Lieutenant Graves and four other Navy pilots, who said in interviews with The New York Times that they saw the objects in 2014 and 2015 in training maneuvers from Virginia to Florida off the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt, make no assertions of their provenance.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/us/politics/ufo-sightings-navy-pilots.html

Nick Pope on UFO sightings, the Navy and Pentagon | New York Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaSY2Zc0goQ


In the first episode of "The Basement Office", host Steven Greenstreet discusses recent bombshell reports that have thrust UFOs into the mainstream. These include ongoing revelations coming out of the Pentagon regarding "unidentified aerial phenomena", the Navy's encounters with unidentified craft that "defy physics", and commercial air pilots having close encounters. This episode features Nick Pope, the "real-life Fox Mulder", who secretly investigated UFOs for the British government during the 1990s while running the "UFO Office" at the UK's Ministry of Defence. UFOs: “A Threat to the Homeland” | The Basement Office - Ep. 1 |

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UFOs | The Flying Saucer | Best sightings and analysis of evidence | New York Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z25NfZ0Ea9c


Episode 2: In 1947, Kenneth Arnold’s UFO sighting and a flying saucer crash in Roswell, New Mexico started a wave. Soon, thousands of eerily similar sightings were being reported across the globe. Nick Pope joins us for this episode of “The Basement Office” to discuss the history of the flying saucer, analyze the most credible reports and discuss how recent UFO sightings have evolved.

Recent UFO sightings | The Black Triangle | Department of Defense cover-ups | New York Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDUF4NtYtxU


In episode 3 of “The Basement Office” the New York Post’s Steven Greenstreet sits down with Nick Pope to discuss the latest UFO sightings and the frightening modern day craft, the black triangle. Is there a Department of Defense cover-up? We speak with witnesses of mass sightings in various locations across the country including the Hudson Valley, New York, and Phoenix, Arizona. Nick reveals why the government downplays such events and offers his take as to whether or not another big wave of UFO sightings is on the horizon.

The New York Post is your source for breaking news, news about New York, sports, business, entertainment, opinion, real estate, culture, fashion, and more.

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Senators get classified briefing on UFO sightings

Washington - Three more U.S. senators received a classified Pentagon briefing on Wednesday about a series of reported encounters by the Navy with unidentified aircraft, according to congressional and government officials — part of a growing number of requests from members of key oversight committees.

One of them was Sen. Mark Warner (D-Virginia), the vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, whose office confirmed the briefing to POLITICO.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/19/warner-classified-briefing-ufos-1544273

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