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Unfortunately I do not posses a quality recording of the trio.
While I appreciated that youtube clip the talent and musicianship of this trio deserve to be heard with proper sonics. I am happy for Eric & his sister having this ongoing opportunity that Mr Belew has offered them.


You should hurry up & buy "Side Four", either at a show or from Adrian's site. It's an amazing live disc. The Slick rhythm section kicks so much ass on it, it's ridiculous. The songs on Sides 1-3 that are heavy on the electronics sound so much better with this band.


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Unfortunately I do not posses a quality recording of the trio.
While I appreciated that youtube clip the talent and musicianship of this trio deserve to be heard with proper sonics. I am happy for Eric & his sister having this ongoing opportunity that Mr Belew has offered them.


You should hurry up & buy "Side Four", either at a show or from Adrian's site. It's an amazing live disc. The Slick rhythm section kicks so much ass on it, it's ridiculous. The songs on Sides 1-3 that are heavy on the electronics sound so much better with this band.


Yes indeed. A perfect introduction.

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Thank you, T.M., and congratulations on the impending birth of your second child! How exciting!

Any idea what day Gary?
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It has been alleged that Dweezil had a meeting on the bus, which resulted in André being roughed up by ZPZ crew last night at the Ottawa Bluesfest. Belew opens for ZPZ again tonight. Adrian is very distressed over the incident and may choose not to sit in for one song, as planned, with ZPZ tonight.

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jimmie d killed the forum wrote:
It has been alleged that Dweezil had a meeting on the bus, which resulted in André being roughed up by ZPZ crew last night at the Ottawa Bluesfest. Belew opens for ZPZ again tonight. Adrian is very distressed over the incident and may choose not to sit in for one song, as planned, with ZPZ tonight.


Let's just imagine for a second a liaison building the fences situation.

I can report that I have, on more than one occasion,
in real life personal space interaction one on one communication
with Andre observed with my own eyes and ears that if
Andre spoke with the same content, tone and mannerisms
where if that was not severely curbed and he continued to exhibit
that behavior on a ZPZ bus that immediate removal would be in order.
Even you JimmyD if you had witnessed what I observed in Andre's content, tone and mannerisms
when speaking of a very highly ambient domain official person who protects and serves
and I expect you have I think you might feel this was in order JimmyD.

Be Honest but then again you wonder why your backstage pass was denied.

I know well that Andre loves his personal relationship
with Zappa music but I could see where he could possibly
have a problem curbing his behavior in a ZPZ Bus siltation.

If Adrian Belew is not part of some speculated special guest
role with ZPZ because of whatever this situation may
actually be well it's Adrien Belew's loss.

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It has been alleged that Dweezil had a meeting on the bus, which resulted in André being roughed up by ZPZ crew last night at the Ottawa Bluesfest. Belew opens for ZPZ again tonight. Adrian is very distressed over the incident and may choose not to sit in for one song, as planned, with ZPZ tonight.
.....I could see where he could possibly have a problem curbing his behavior in a ZPZ Bus siltation.

To clarify: I have a full account of what allegedly happened. André was not on the ZPZ bus. Allegedly, Dweezil held a meeting with ZPZ crew on the bus, which resulted in André being singled out and roughed up.

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jimmie d killed the forum wrote:
It has been alleged that Dweezil had a meeting on the bus, which resulted in André being roughed up by ZPZ crew last night at the Ottawa Bluesfest. Belew opens for ZPZ again tonight. Adrian is very distressed over the incident and may choose not to sit in for one song, as planned, with ZPZ tonight.


Let's just imagine for a second a liaison building the fences situation.

I can report that I have, on more than one occasion,
in real life personal space interaction one on one communication
with Andre observed with my own eyes and ears that if
Andre spoke with the same content, tone and mannerisms
where if that was not severely curbed and he continued to exhibit
that behavior on a ZPZ bus that immediate removal would be in order.
Even you JimmyD if you had witnessed what I observed in Andre's content, tone and mannerisms
when speaking of a very highly ambient domain official person who protects and serves
and I expect you have I think you might feel this was in order JimmyD.

Be Honest but then again you wonder why your backstage pass was denied.

I know well that Andre loves his personal relationship
with Zappa music but I could see where he could possibly
have a problem curbing his behavior in a ZPZ Bus siltation.

If Adrian Belew is not part of some speculated special guest
role with ZPZ because of whatever this situation may
actually be well it's Adrien Belew's loss.



Why do you feel the need to write such bullshit? That could have been said in THREE SHORT SENTENCES.

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What does "roughed up" mean? Physically? Verbally?
Damn, it's like Lancaster, CA, ca. 1950s.


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What does "roughed up" mean? Physically? Verbally?
Damn, it's like Lancaster, CA, ca. 1950s.

Physically. Nearly pushed off the stage.

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jimmie d killed the forum wrote:
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What does "roughed up" mean? Physically? Verbally?
Damn, it's like Lancaster, CA, ca. 1950s.

Physically. Nearly pushed off the stage.


Terrible. Very sad to read of this.


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What does "roughed up" mean? Physically? Verbally?
Damn, it's like Lancaster, CA, ca. 1950s.

Physically. Nearly pushed off the stage.


Terrible. Very sad to read of this.


I really hope there's been a misunderstanding somewhere along the line here. What a way to carry on your father's legacy :oops:

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If what Jimmie said happened is true, thats fucking crazy. I believe it, Jimmie D. has always been honest in the past.

Why does Dweezil let other peoples opinions bother him so? I mean, if I was in his position, Id just carry on doing ZPZ and let other people get on with shit...


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What does "roughed up" mean? Physically? Verbally?
Damn, it's like Lancaster, CA, ca. 1950s.

Physically. Nearly pushed off the stage.

Terrible. Very sad to read of this.

I really hope there's been a misunderstanding somewhere along the line here. What a way to carry on your father's legacy :oops:

Shades of Rainbow Theatre 1971.

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Was this during a show by Andre or ZPZ?

If so maybe somebody has video of this?

Anyway I will reserve judgement until I hear more.

If true this would be very upsetting.


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Was Andre' attacked while breaking down Adrian's set up?


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jimmie d killed the forum wrote:
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jimmie d killed the forum wrote:
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What does "roughed up" mean? Physically? Verbally?
Damn, it's like Lancaster, CA, ca. 1950s.

Physically. Nearly pushed off the stage.

Terrible. Very sad to read of this.

I really hope there's been a misunderstanding somewhere along the line here. What a way to carry on your father's legacy :oops:

Shades of Rainbow Theatre 1971.


God, yeah. I'm sure Frank would be very proud :oops:

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If what Jimmie said happened is true, thats fucking crazy. I believe it, Jimmie D. has always been honest in the past.

Why does Dweezil let other peoples opinions bother him so? I mean, if I was in his position, Id just carry on doing ZPZ and let other people get on with shit...

Thanks, Pappa. I repeat my intro that it has been alleged. The full story is pretty sick, and more details will eventually be revealed. I'm gonna wait to see what happens tonight. I think that Belew, considering the pro that he is, will sit in with ZPZ this evening.

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Was Andre' attacked while breaking down Adrian's set up?


No, it happened on the side stage before the show started.

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It has been alleged that Dweezil had a meeting on the bus, which resulted in André being roughed up by ZPZ crew last night at the Ottawa Bluesfest. Belew opens for ZPZ again tonight. Adrian is very distressed over the incident and may choose not to sit in for one song, as planned, with ZPZ tonight.


Let's just imagine for a second a liaison building the fences situation.

I can report that I have, on more than one occasion,
in real life personal space interaction one on one communication
with Andre observed with my own eyes and ears that if
Andre spoke with the same content, tone and mannerisms
where if that was not severely curbed and he continued to exhibit
that behavior on a ZPZ bus that immediate removal would be in order.
Even you JimmyD if you had witnessed what I observed in Andre's content, tone and mannerisms
when speaking of a very highly ambient domain official person who protects and serves
and I expect you have I think you might feel this was in order JimmyD.

Be Honest but then again you wonder why your backstage pass was denied.

I know well that Andre loves his personal relationship
with Zappa music but I could see where he could possibly
have a problem curbing his behavior in a ZPZ Bus siltation.

If Adrian Belew is not part of some speculated special guest
role with ZPZ because of whatever this situation may
actually be well it's Adrien Belew's loss.

Well I guess I read into your statement that Andre was on the ZPZ bus and part of some meeting. So much for any speculation that Andre woud ever even have qan opportunity to act more civil than his history
of blatantly trashing Gail & Dweezil.

I repeat I have witnessed Andre's extremely disturbing linguistic content, tone and mannerisms towards a very highly ambient domain official person who protects and serves the artistic intent of Frank Zappa. I'd be surprised if Andre would walk withing 1,000 yards of the ZFT.

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jimmie d killed the forum wrote:
It has been alleged that Dweezil had a meeting on the bus, which resulted in André being roughed up by ZPZ crew last night at the Ottawa Bluesfest. Belew opens for ZPZ again tonight. Adrian is very distressed over the incident and may choose not to sit in for one song, as planned, with ZPZ tonight.


Let's just imagine for a second a liaison building the fences situation.

I can report that I have, on more than one occasion,
in real life personal space interaction one on one communication
with Andre observed with my own eyes and ears that if
Andre spoke with the same content, tone and mannerisms
where if that was not severely curbed and he continued to exhibit
that behavior on a ZPZ bus that immediate removal would be in order.
Even you JimmyD if you had witnessed what I observed in Andre's content, tone and mannerisms
when speaking of a very highly ambient domain official person who protects and serves
and I expect you have I think you might feel this was in order JimmyD.

Be Honest but then again you wonder why your backstage pass was denied.

I know well that Andre loves his personal relationship
with Zappa music but I could see where he could possibly
have a problem curbing his behavior in a ZPZ Bus siltation.

If Adrian Belew is not part of some speculated special guest
role with ZPZ because of whatever this situation may
actually be well it's Adrien Belew's loss.

Well I guess I read into your statement that Andre was on the ZPZ bus and part of some meeting. So much for any speculation that Andre woud ever even have qan opportunity to act more civil than his history
of blatantly trashing Gail & Dweezil.

I repeat I have witnessed Andre's extremely disturbing linguistic content, tone and mannerisms towards a very highly ambient domain official person who protects and serves the artistic intent of Frank Zappa. I'd be surprised if Andre would walk withing 1,000 yards of the ZFT.


So, if the allegation turns out to be true, are you justifying and advocating DZ's request for physical violence against Andre? We can do without the mangled paragraphs; just say yes or no.

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extremely disturbing linguistic content :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Trendmonger wrote:
Trendmonger wrote:
jimmie d killed the forum wrote:
It has been alleged that Dweezil had a meeting on the bus, which resulted in André being roughed up by ZPZ crew last night at the Ottawa Bluesfest. Belew opens for ZPZ again tonight. Adrian is very distressed over the incident and may choose not to sit in for one song, as planned, with ZPZ tonight.


Let's just imagine for a second a liaison building the fences situation.

I can report that I have, on more than one occasion,
in real life personal space interaction one on one communication
with Andre observed with my own eyes and ears that if
Andre spoke with the same content, tone and mannerisms
where if that was not severely curbed and he continued to exhibit
that behavior on a ZPZ bus that immediate removal would be in order.
Even you JimmyD if you had witnessed what I observed in Andre's content, tone and mannerisms
when speaking of a very highly ambient domain official person who protects and serves
and I expect you have I think you might feel this was in order JimmyD.

Be Honest but then again you wonder why your backstage pass was denied.

I know well that Andre loves his personal relationship
with Zappa music but I could see where he could possibly
have a problem curbing his behavior in a ZPZ Bus siltation.

If Adrian Belew is not part of some speculated special guest
role with ZPZ because of whatever this situation may
actually be well it's Adrien Belew's loss.

Well I guess I read into your statement that Andre was on the ZPZ bus and part of some meeting. So much for any speculation that Andre woud ever even have qan opportunity to act more civil than his history
of blatantly trashing Gail & Dweezil.

I repeat I have witnessed Andre's extremely disturbing linguistic content, tone and mannerisms towards a very highly ambient domain official person who protects and serves the artistic intent of Frank Zappa. I'd be surprised if Andre would walk withing 1,000 yards of the ZFT.


So, if the allegation turns out to be true,
are you justifying and advocating DZ's request for physical violence against Andre? We can do without the mangled paragraphs; just say yes or no.


Now where did this speculation come from.
So I guess you have some factual prof that Dweezil
as you say made some form of request where his posse was to inflict some form of physical maneuver on Andre.

I think there is a chance fans are spin doctoring whatever factual events took place but based on Andre's Track Record and that is extremely fowl,
if I were in his shoes I'd stay 1,000 yards away from the ZFT. Not that violence is to be expected buy why mix Andre into that sage unless some diplomacy protocols were developed. If he is working for Andrian it is nice of that opportunity for him
Andre needs to learn how to show show diplomacy.
I have seen his fowl behavior with my own eyes and ears. I always tried to give him good examples of why he shoudl let goof his fowl outlook.
Some very questionable behavior but plain and simple his commentary here
is enough to show he has little diplomacy in these matters.
The 1,000 yards comment is just common sense not some protection against violence.

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Now where did this speculation come from.

So......not only can you not write, you cannot read, either. Unbelievable. :roll:

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jimmie d killed the forum wrote:
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Now where did this speculation come from.

So......not only can you not write, you cannot read, either. Unbelievable. :roll:

I read your statement.
It's not that I can not read it's what people read into it!

If Adrian is so distressed maybe next time
Adrian will think twice about who he hires
and who he gets booked with and if they get along
with who he has hired.

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We the fans are not in control. We have a choice to use our eyes and ears or read it and weep.


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Now where did this speculation come from.
So I guess you have some factual prof that Dweezil
as you say made some form of request where his posse was to inflict some form of physical maneuver on Andre.

I think there is a chance fans are spin doctoring whatever factual events took place but based on Andre's Track Record and that is extremely fowl,
if I were in his shoes I'd stay 1,000 yards away from the ZFT. Not that violence is to be expected buy why mix Andre into that sage unless some diplomacy protocols were developed. If he is working for Andrian it is nice of that opportunity for him
Andre needs to learn how to show show diplomacy.
I have seen his fowl behavior with my own eyes and ears. I always tried to give him good examples of why he shoudl let goof his fowl outlook.
Some very questionable behavior but plain and simple his commentary here
is enough to show he has little diplomacy in these matters.
The 1,000 yards comment is just common sense not some protection against violence.

MY RESPONSE TO YOUR INCINUATIONS
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Please read what I wrote. I have no factual proof that this happened; I sincerely hope it didn't. What I said was: if this allegation turns out to be true, do you agree with DZ's behaviour? In other words, do you agree with the use of violence to settle this alleged conflict? "No comment" is a pitiful, cowardly way out of this. Answer yes or no, if you have the balls. it's all speculation at this point, after all.

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