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 Post subject: Re: MAGAts
PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:22 pm 
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According to recent polls from Rasmussen, YouGov, and others, the majority of Republicans believe that the election was stolen. More surprising though, as many as 30% of Democrats according to some polls feel the same way.
Most Republicans say that they think that Donald Trump won the election. But do they really believe what they are saying or are just lying to stay in Donald Trump's good graces? It has been said that if you repeat a big lie often enough, eventually people will come to believe it. The question here is whether the Republican politicians who repeat the Big Lie all the time have actually convinced themself that it is true, or if they are just complete hypocrites spouting propaganda they very well know is false.

As one example, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) recently tweeted: "Remember when freezing military aid to Ukraine was an impeachable offense?" Of course Congress did not impeach Trump for freezing aid to Ukraine. It impeached him for extorting an ally that didn't want to get involved in a U.S. election. Most likely, Rubio probably doesn't even remember exactly what happened or why Trump was impeached. He is not the sharpest knife in the drawer and has a reputation for being lazy to boot. There are probably many cases in which the situation is somewhat complicated and the politician in question doesn't really remember or understand what actually happened and thus is not "lying" in the sense of telling an intentional falsehood that he clearly understands to be false, but does it anyway.

Probably an even better example is Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI), who has admitted in private that he knows Trump lost the 2020 election. But Johnson is so convinced that the left is an enemy of America that everything he says and does is directed to the goal of stopping them. He will ally himself with anyone (even Russian President Vladimir Putin) he thinks will help him achieve his goal. If Johnson then says something false in service of blocking the left, he probably doesn't consider it to be lying since it is intended to advance what he sees as the greater good.

This is actually a classic psychological process called self-deception and, more specifically, is a category of self-deception called "construction of a biased social theory." In short, a person convinces themselves that they are good and righteous, and their opponents are evil and wicked, such that saying things that may not "technically" be true is entirely justified in the grand scheme of things. This may explain a lot of the Republicans' behavior. They have so convinced themselves that the left is such a great threat to the America they love (where upstanding straight white Christian men wield all the power without being challenged) that everything they do and say is in service of this goal. It hardly matters if some particular statement is false; it is the overall goal that matters. It is similar to what Trump supporters said about Donald Trump's critics: "They take him seriously but not literally." While the media like to catch politicians uttering a sentence that is, on its face, false, the politicians' supporters may not care about the means as long as they like the ends. This may explain why politicians lie and don't even think about it. Some of them honestly believe they are serving the country better that way. It is an intriguing idea.


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 Post subject: Re: MAGAts
PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 3:26 pm 
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Mr. Nice Guy wrote:
It has been said that if you repeat a big lie often enough, eventually people will come to believe it.


Russia , Russia , Russia .
Pee tapes .
Ukraine extortion .
Trump ordered protesters to be tear-gassed for a photo-op.
The ‘lab leak’ theory was a conspiracy.
Trump told Georgia officials to ‘find the fraud’.
Trump said white supremacists were ‘fine people’.
Trump referred to illegal immigrants as ‘animals’.
Trump ‘flat-out lied’ when he said his campaign was wiretapped.
Trump removed MLK Jr. bust.

Every one of those statements above have been totally debunked but it still proves your posted quote above.
You still believe every one of the lies I pointed out.

You and mij should hang out more.


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 Post subject: Re: MAGAts
PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 3:40 pm 
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Rasmussen ??
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Explain the 30,573 lies Trump told in 4 years.
Waiting...
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You're a "pauvre petit crétin"

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 Post subject: Re: MAGAts
PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:09 pm 
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this gave me a good laugh.....

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 Post subject: Re: MAGAts
PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:25 pm 
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pedro1 wrote:
Russia , Russia , Russia .
Pee tapes .
Ukraine extortion .
Trump ordered protesters to be tear-gassed for a photo-op.
The ‘lab leak’ theory was a conspiracy.
Trump told Georgia officials to ‘find the fraud’.
Trump said white supremacists were ‘fine people’.
Trump referred to illegal immigrants as ‘animals’.
Trump ‘flat-out lied’ when he said his campaign was wiretapped.
Trump removed MLK Jr. bust.

Every one of those statements above have been totally debunked but it still proves your posted quote above.
You still believe every one of the lies I pointed out.

You and mij should hang out more.
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 Post subject: Re: MAGAts
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 Post subject: Re: MAGAts
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 Post subject: Re: MAGAts
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Pedro will never be able to explain the over 30000 lies Trump told.
He 'll never explain why he's still a stupid cunt to still believe these lies.
He'll never be smart enough to realize that we don't give a fuck about his extreme right-wing agendas.
He'll never smart enough to realize that he's controlled.

Pauvre petit crétin...
On Netflix for you, hoping hopelessly it will open your mind (who am I kidding ?)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7699414/
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 Post subject: Re: MAGAts
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It's in the news here. . .
It looks like the Delta variation of the COVID is on the rise, so the number of deaths to come soon.
And it looks like the Delta variation of the COVID is mainy attacking folks who are not vaccinated.
And it seems that the majority of them are of Republican allegeances.
In the long run, they'll catch the virus, and many of them will die.
Reducing number of folks supporting Trump next time.
Isn't that ironic !
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I wonder if Pedro has had at least one shot. . .
Did he betrayed his God ?
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 Post subject: Re: MAGAts
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:25 pm 
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Pedro believes Trump's big lies still. Mental issues.


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 Post subject: Re: MAGAts
PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:42 am 
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/07/11/heat-wave-western-united-states-continues-break-records/7930425002/

Every Insane Thing Donald Trump Has Said About Global Warming
https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/12/trump-climate-timeline/

Ha ! Isn't it nice, Pedro, to follow the man who knows so much about everything.
What a lucky guy you are !
Never questionning yourself.
What a blessing it is to be a crétin...

(there's no icon for the way I feel now)

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 Post subject: Re: MAGAts
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Even Trump and Melania got the vaccine...secretly.


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