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 Post subject: Re: Zappa's house
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:06 pm 
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He'll be rolling in his grave.

Why? It was for sale and somebody with the means to buy it bought it. Do you think Tom Mix rolled over in his grave when some long haired freak named Frank Zappa moved into his old place? I'm glad someone famous bought it because that will bring more attention to the fact that it used to be Frank's.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:17 pm 
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polydigm wrote:
He'll be rolling in his grave.

Why? It was for sale and somebody with the means to buy it bought it. Do you think Tom Mix rolled over in his grave when some long haired freak named Frank Zappa moved into his old place? I'm glad someone famous bought it because that will bring more attention to the fact that it used to be Frank's.
Personally I don't give a shit. It's just a hunch about how he would feel if he could. He's actually doing nothing at all because he doesn't exist anymore and by definition cares even less than I do.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:29 pm 
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polydigm wrote:
KUIII wrote:
polydigm wrote:
He'll be rolling in his grave.

Why? It was for sale and somebody with the means to buy it bought it. Do you think Tom Mix rolled over in his grave when some long haired freak named Frank Zappa moved into his old place? I'm glad someone famous bought it because that will bring more attention to the fact that it used to be Frank's.
Personally I don't give a shit. It's just a hunch about how he would feel if he could. He's actually doing nothing at all because he doesn't exist anymore and by definition cares even less than I do.

He still exists in the imagination of the imaginer and who knows where else (parallel universe, anyone?) but I agree, dead people generally don't roll around much.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:32 pm 
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Gaga and Frank were both supporters of "freaks", that alone ought to count for something. She'll be using that studio for sure. Just hope she shows some respect for the place, but I think she will. I like her freaky self, so I don't mind her buying it.

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Yesterday, when I first read Lady Gaga bought the house, I thought it was a joke and it didn't make sense to me since both are unique, but in completely different ways. And now, I still don't know what to think. Maybe she's a fan?!

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Her influences include some pretty cool rock stuff like Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden so it wouldn't surprise me if she liked Frank as well.


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KUIII wrote:
Her influences include some pretty cool rock stuff like Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden so it wouldn't surprise me if she liked Frank as well.



+1 8) she and Frank would have probably done a duet album if he was still around, hell he would have produced an album for her in a hot minute... :smoke:


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Sure, Lady Gaga is marketed as being freaky, but I find her boring or at best, wacky. The whole meat suit and her other costumes are, imo, just an extension of stuff Talking Heads did in True Stories, the same year she was born.

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Also, she was the worst in her season of American Gothic. (No slight against the show "You're the Worst", thats show'z hilarious!

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The Forum Killed Arkay wrote:
Sure, Lady Gaga is marketed as being freaky, but I find her boring or at best, wacky. The whole meat suit and her other costumes are, imo, just an extension of stuff Talking Heads did in True Stories, the same year she was born.

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Also, she was the worst in her season of American Gothic. (No slight against the show "You're the Worst", thats show'z hilarious!


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There is no doubt she is an excellent singer and very good writer, no to mention versatile... :idea:


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Lady Gaga talking about her purchase of, and plans for, the former home of Frank Zappa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZrmBNh9vTc
Some vblogger sneaking around the house:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiroOAqLgSQ

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Frank Zappa zig-zagged around downtown Ontario in early 1960s

https://www.dailybulletin.com/2019/12/21/frank-zappa-zig-zagged-around-downtown-ontario-in-early-1960s/

By David Allen | dallen@scng.com | Inland Valley Daily Bulletin
PUBLISHED: December 21, 2019 at 10:00 am | UPDATED: December 21, 2019 at 10:01 am

Dec. 21 would have been Frank Zappa‘s 79th birthday. Alas, he died Dec. 4, 1993 at his home in the Hollywood Hills of prostate cancer. As has been explored in my column on dozens of occasions, he had numerous local connections for us — Claremont, Montclair, Cucamonga, Pomona and Ontario — from 1953-54 and 1958-1965 before he was famous.

The Ontario years have gotten less attention. Zappa appears to have rented three residences downtown from 1960-63, all near each other. The best-known address is 314 W. G St., a bungalow on the north side of the street that no longer exists; there’s now an apartment complex on that site.

He lived in that home with his first wife, Kay Sherman, whom he’d met as classmates at Chaffey College. She worked at nearby First National Bank at 100 S. Euclid Ave. Imagine Zappa walking along the sidewalks of Euclid to visit her, or crossing G Street to shop at the old Ontario Music store.

He had various odd jobs while pursuing music, his ambitions higher than his achievements.

“F.V. Zappa,” his business card read. “Composer – Master Blues Guitarist.”

Still standing: the Zappa residence at 625 N. Euclid Ave., a stately two-story Victorian now used as offices.

At the time, the under-employed Zappa was, among other activities, leader of a band named the Boogie Men, for which Doug Rost was guitarist. In a 2007 interview with yours truly, arranged by mutual friend Wayne Leavitt, Rost told me about the house at 625, saying Zappa rented an apartment upstairs under the peak of the roof, where space was so tight it was hard to maneuver.

“It was almost like walking into a Swiss chalet,” Rost said. “You could look out the front window and see Euclid.”

That must be the window at upper right in the photo.

Zappa also seems to have lived at 422 W. E St. That’s based on another business card with that as the address for “Frank Zappa’s Boogie Men,” described as “Rhythm & Blues, Rock ‘n’ Roll” and listing its members as Doug, Al, Ken, Gary and Terry — or, respectively, Rost, Surratt, Burgan, (possibly) Burkey and Kirkman.

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Frank Zappa and his wife rented here at 422 W. E St. in Ontario in the early 1960s. (Photo by David Allen, Inland Valley Daily Bulletin/SCNG)

I drove by recently and saw a series of three or four units. I didn’t venture past the sidewalk, but there’s a small “422” under the eaves and above the window of the first one. Is it the same building as in Zappa’s day? I don’t know. But it’s the same address.

After his peripatetic sojourn in Ontario, and divorce from Sherman, Zappa relocated to Pal Recorders in Cucamonga, the recording studio where he lived and worked at 8040 N. Archibald Ave. from 1964-65. He joined the nascent Mothers of Invention in Pomona in 1965.

The Mothers performed around the area that year, including at the Sinners & Saints Tavern, 1315 E. Holt Blvd., Ontario. The bar is long gone. The site is now the Country Village apartment complex.

Had Zappa stuck around, maybe he’d have lived there.

Zappa (cont’d)

In June, news outlets reported that an authorized Zappa coloring book was due to be published, featuring 72 B&W illustrations inspired by the musician. As the book wasn’t coming out until November, I held off on writing anything. Besides, I was curious if the interior pages would be biographical enough to contain something local. Say, a drawing based on the photo of the then-crewcut Zappa outside his studio in Cucamonga.

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The Frank Zappa Coloring Book has images in black and white for your coloring pleasure. (Photo by David Allen, Inland Valley Daily Bulletin/SCNG)

“The Frank Zappa Coloring Book” was duly released. Rhino Records in Claremont sells it. I asked at the counter, and a clerk led me to it, uttering the unexpected line, “It’s in our coloring book section.”

Unfortunately for my purposes, the book, while perfectly fine, was made up of images of the mature (in a manner of speaking) musician of the post-Inland Valley years, usually in imagined or abstract settings.

Too bad. I’d have liked to use a Crayola on Cucamonga.

More Zappa (cont’d)

After achieving fame, Zappa seems to have performed here publicly only once, a May 18, 1971 concert at Bridges Auditorium on the Pomona College campus in Claremont.

But now one of his two sons is heading our way.

Dweezil Zappa and what’s described as his “rocking teenage combo” will be at Montclair’s Canyon on Feb. 16. That’s the new music venue in Montclair Place mall. They’ll perform his father’s “Hot Rats” album from 1969 in its entirety, as well as other Zappa songs.

Hot Rats” was dedicated to Dweezil, Zappa’s newborn son with his second wife, Gail. The album, Zappa’s first after dissolving the Mothers, is largely instrumental, jazz-rock fusion. That should be interesting.

Trivia note: The album begins with “Peaches en Regalia,” which was also Zappa’s opening number at Bridges. So this will be its second live performance locally by a Zappa.

Dweezil’s tour is called “Hot Rats Live!”

Tickets for the Canyon show are $39 to $79. For any seats at a table, you also have to buy dinner ($29-$49). Try not to let the album and concert title ruin your appetite.

David Allen rats, er, writes Sunday, Wednesday and Friday. Email dallen@scng.com, phone 909-483-9339, visit insidesocal.com/davidallen, like davidallencolumnist on Facebook and follow @davidallen909 on Twitter.

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