Disco Boy wrote:
Caputh wrote:
It's about facts, really -less than about DB - he just parrots Trump's latest tweet.
Quoting Trump himself in full context (namely, mainly his tweets, which is all the so-called context he, himself, provides) is laborious, but reveals the true Trump
Not only does your idiosyncratic long-ass-winded post go nowhere and does not detract from anything I've stated (as usual), but you still do not realize what a figure of speech is. Not to mention, your arithmetic skills are laughable.
Trump has been in office for 31 months, that's roughly 135 weeks. Also, the Department of Homeland Security reported that since 2017, there have been over 4,000 murders, 30,000 sexual assaults and 100,000 violent assaults committed by illegals against American citizens.
Once again, you're a fucking idiot.
Good night.
So, oh genius, was the former President of Mexico also utterly misunderstanding Trump when he told him, "I'm not paying for your fucking wall"? Did he too, fail to understand that, all the time, the Orange one wasn't talking about actual money from Mexico, but using figures of speech?
Former Trump groupie, Ann Coulter also seems to have failed to pick up on his figures of speech: "He lied", she says.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... l-funding/ Perhaps they were confused by statements like... “It’s an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion." (March, 2016)
https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdfIs that a "figurative", one-time payment of $5-10 billion?
So, oh genius, the fact that Trump has been in office for 31 months
means that he has built a mile of wall per week, which
means that the wall is 135 miles long - because you say so?
BTW, shouldn't the number now be 172 miles as you've been posting the same number since January 2019?
BTW, as he only began building prototypes in October of 2017 shouldn't you take off approximately 40 weeks, i.e. 40 miles of length of "wall"?
Since your maths skills are so in advance of mine, could you give a date for when Trump will have completed the wall?
In actual fact...
"Before Trump became president, 654 miles of the nearly 2,000-mile U.S. Mexico border had primary barriers. As of today, that hasn’t increased.
To date, the administration has replaced about 60 miles of dilapidated barriers with new fencing. And a major component of Trump’s pledge — that Mexico would pay for the wall — hasn’t been part of the equation. U.S. taxpayers have paid the cost."
(
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-mete ... ally-been/ - August 30th 2019)
So, oh genius, as you don't (as usual) provide a link, I'm assuming that your numbers on illegal immigrant crime come from here...
"In the last two years, ICE officers made 266,000 arrests of aliens with criminal records including those charged or convicted of 100,000 assaults, 30,000 sex crimes, and 4,000 violent killings. Over the years, thousands of Americans have been brutally killed by those who illegally entered our country and thousands more lives will be lost if we don’t act right now." (Trump, January 2019)
https://web.archive.org/web/20150816161 ... ion-reformThese numbers are bollocks because...
a) "There is no national database that compares crimes committed by immigration status. In fact, only one state – Texas – does so."
b) "Trump doesn’t include a comparison to the general population’s crime rates, and the numbers Trump cited are arrests, meaning all did not result in convictions. Of those charges over eight years, 238 undocumented immigrants were convicted of homicide, 13,559 for assault, 1,689 for sexual assault and 1,280 for weapons."
c) "Undocumented immigrants are about half as likely to be incarcerated as native-born Americans and legal immigrants are about 80 percent less likely than native-born Americans."
d) "[T]he president is likely gleaning numbers from data released by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) that summarizes arrests of immigrants who are released into their custody and then removed from the country. But the information Trump appears to be using does not make clear what year the arrests were made, when the crimes were actually committed, and combines charges with convictions."
e) "The 266,000 arrests of undocumented immigrants with criminal records over the past two years that Trump mentioned is a number that mainly includes immigrants who were convicted of crimes in the past, and perhaps served jail time before they were released into ICE custody."
f) "According to the ICE data, over the past two years, there were nearly 4,000 arrests made for people charged and convicted of homicide among immigrants released into ICE custody for deportation -- but the homicides could’ve been committed over any number of years.
For comparison, just in 2017, a total of 16,446 people were murdered in the U.S., according to the FBI."
g) "The same unclear time frame applies to the president’s number on assaults, which likely stems from the nearly 50,000 people released into ICE custody in 2017 and 2018, who had been either charged or convicted for such crimes -- but who could have committed their crimes years ago."
h) "As for the president’s statement on sex crimes, those same ICE reports do not show 30,000. Even when combining the number from the ICE reports on sexual assaults with the separate category of sex offenses, that total comes to around 22,000."
Conclusion: "What available studies do show, however, is that overall, crime rates are lower among immigrant groups than they are among native-born Americans."
(Source:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact-ch ... d=60311860)
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). However, the numbers I've presented are from the Department of Homeland Security. And even if their #s are not exact (which is difficult because they're always changing), THE POINT here is that there is a major illegal immigration problem that has to be rectified and a wall is definitely needed. Btw, some of the links you provided actually help prove some of my points regarding his figurative speech. Also, your arithmetic skills are still incredibly bad...
