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Now, back to reality...


https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/su ... 9-year-low


5,824,000: Number of Unemployed Americans Hits 19-Year Low

By Susan Jones | May 3, 2019 | 8:48 AM EDT



(CNSNews.com) - Not since 2000 has the number of unemployed Americans been this low.

That drop -- to 5,824,000 in April from 6,211,000 in March -- helped lower the nation's unemployment rate two-tenths of a point to 3.6 percent, the lowest rate since 1969.

The Bureau of Labor statistics counts people as unemployed if they do not have a job, have actively looked for work in the past four weeks, and are currently available for work.

However, not everyone who is jobless is unemployed. A growing number, including retirees, are counted as not in the labor force, meaning they are not working and are not looking for a job. That number increased by 646,000 last month to 96,223,000.

The number of employed Americans, which has set 18 records so far in the Trump presidency, dropped slightly in April to 156,645,000 from 156,748,000 in March.

The economy added a strong 230,000 jobs last month, beating analysts' estimates of +190,000.

But the labor force participation rate dropped two tenths of a point to 62.8 percent, below the Trump-era high of 63.2 percent.

In April, the nation’s civilian noninstitutionalized population, consisting of all people age 16 or older who were not in the military or an institution, reached 258,693,000. Of those, 162,470,000 participated in the labor force by either holding a job or actively seeking one.

The 162,470,000 who participated in the labor force equaled 62.8 percent of the 258,693,000 civilian noninstitutionalized population.

Among the major worker groups, the unemployment rates declined in April for adult men (3.4 percent), adult women (3.1 percent), Whites (3.1 percent), Asians (2.2 percent), and Hispanics (4.2 percent). The jobless rates for teenagers (13.0 percent) and Blacks (6.7 percent) showed little or no change.

The Hispanic unemployment rate has never been this low.

In April, average hourly earnings for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls rose by 6 cents to $27.77. Over the year, average hourly earnings have increased by 3.2 percent.

The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for February was revised up from +33,000 to +56,000, and the change for March was revised down from +196,000 to +189,000. With these revisions, employment gains in February and March combined were 16,000 more than previously reported.

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Now, here's yet another dose of reality:


2017-2019 Trump Administration Accomplishments (UPDATED):


~ over 65% of his 8 year agenda already accomplished
~ over $12 Trillion in wealth created
~ best job #s in quantity EVER (as of April 2019, 156.645 million employed) - has broken FIFTEEN job creation quantity records
~ at FULL employment (meaning, there are more jobs available than people looking for them) for the first time EVER and for 1 year straight
~ more positively consistent monthly labor force participation rates (as of April 2019, 62.8%) than most months Obama was in office
~ 2018 saw over 3.1% GDP growth
~ 2019 Q1 saw 3.2% GDP growth (the highest in 4 years), despite the month-long Government shutdown in January
~ the largest tax cut bill (individual and corporate rates) in nearly 30 years - and as a result, 250+ companies have given 6 million employees over $1 BILLION in bonuses, including $100-200 million dollar bonuses (or the equivalent in stock options) from Apple, Fiat Chrysler, AT&T, Comcast, Walmart, Home Depot, Waste Mgmt., etc.
~ as a result of the above, employee wages & average hourly earnings, have increased 3.2% & 3.4% over the past year
~ Obamacare mandate repealed, giving free choice to consumers, instead of being financially penalized for not conforming to the plan
~ consumer confidence the highest it's been in 18 years
~ highest stock market performance EVER (currently, the DOW is well over 26,000)
~ lowest unemployment rate in five decades (as of April 2019, 3.6%)
~ lowest youth unemployment rate in nearly 30 years
~ one of the lowest female unemployment rates in decades (as of April 2019, 3.4%)
~ the lowest Hispanic unemployment rate EVER (as of April 2019, 4.2%)
~ one of the lowest African American unemployment rates EVER (as of April 2019, 6.7%)
~ the lowest Asian unemployment rate EVER (as of April 2019, 2.2%)
~ 5.4 million jobs created since the 2016 election
~ highest Homeownership rate in 5 years
~ highest African American homeownership rate EVER
~ lowest unemployment rates EVER in 14 states
~ over 900 job-killing regulations eradicated
~ the US is now the world's #1 oil and energy producer
~ food stamp recipients at a several year low (5 million+ less people receiving them)
~ the Trump wall has officially commenced building, with over 115 miles completed
~ less illegals crossing the US/Mexican border already, even without a fully completed Trump wall
~ a 58% increase in coal exports in the 1st quarter of 2017
~ an infrastructure bill (that includes eliminating wait times for large building permits/licenses and related regulations of up to 17 years down to 2 years)
~ a veterans' health care bill (that transfers almost all power to veterans, who then can fire their health care provider if they don't match their expectations)
~ dozens of legislative & executive orders
~ ALL of ISIS have been eradicated from Syria & while nearly all of ISIS have been eradicated from Iraq
~ successfully aided in forcing Kim Jong-un to suspend nuke testing and has essentially ended (or at the very least, temporarily ended) the Korean War - deserving of a Nobel Peace Prize
~ successfully made Kim Jong-un return 55 sets of US soldier remains from the 1950's Korean War
~ after unfulfilled promises by Clinton, Bush Jnr. & Obama to make Jerusalem the capital of Israel and move the embassy there, Trump promises to do it and DOES it
~ the United States/Mexico/Canada Act (USMCA), replacing the horror that was NAFTA
~ new Supreme Court Justice, Judge Kavanaugh

Etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.

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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2019 7:29 pm 
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That's right, DB's read the report.


Or somebody read it to him. However, he does seem slightly confused about what the report is, what Barr's summary is and what Mueller's letter, complaining about Barr's summary is. Perhaps they read it to him a bit indistinctly.


ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:

NO EVIDENCE PROVING TRUMP/RUSSIAN COLLUSION OR OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.


What part of this do you NOT understand, morons?! :roll:

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Melania, I think that you should put DB in your ban list too.
It seems he has a strange reversing effect on you !
:mrgreen:

I still don't know why people with a working brain would lose their time reading him.
Stupidity may prove to be toxic and contagious when you expose yourself too much to it.
But, hey, free speech !
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Even with a booming economy, Trump can't raise his popularity
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/04/politics/donald-trump-paradox-russia-economy/index.html

Fine... That goes to prove that economy is not all that matters.
8)

But I read that he could lose to almost any Democrat candidates.
Considering the flop of all the 2016 polls, I would rather wait and see.
Too many supporters think he's doing a good job, even when he's giving control of the country to Russia.
There's still a strong 40% of American idiots.
And with the Electoral College, that may prove, again, to be just enough for Trump. :P
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Disco Boy wrote:
Caputh wrote:
Gray_Ghost wrote:
That's right, DB's read the report.


Or somebody read it to him. However, he does seem slightly confused about what the report is, what Barr's summary is and what Mueller's letter, complaining about Barr's summary is. Perhaps they read it to him a bit indistinctly.


ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:

NO EVIDENCE PROVING TRUMP/RUSSIAN COLLUSION OR OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.


What part of this do you NOT understand, morons?! :roll:


Because that's what you and Sean Hannity say and not what the Mueller report says.

BTW have you realized that every time you write "ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:" you are admitting that you have failed to convince somebody; in fact, usually it's everybody.

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scuttlebutt 04May2019~:
-The FBI authorized the surveillance of suspect foreign agents infiltrating Trump's campaign, and only after they left the campaign. That the GOP opposes this suggests they want the foreign agents in their midst left alone.

-We've had public figures who sided with dictators abroad; we've had demagogues who indulged bigotry and conspiracy theories at home; we've had politicians with little respect for the rule of law or the Constitution. Until now we've not seen these features combined in a president.

-Do I have these national security issues right?
-Putin is assuaged (and will continue with known malign activities)
-KJU is emboldened (and is now resuming threats)
-MBS is unpunished (and remains an example of oppression of the press)
But hey, the economy is good?

-The U.S. tax code allows orgs to make independent expenditures on politics while concealing their donors’ names — as long as politics isn’t the organization’s “primary activity.” This is called “dark money.”
The IRS is charged w/ policing it. It’s not.

-News of another school shooting - even that phrase, another school shooting - may remind you how an outrageous crime has become a commonplace event.

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5,824,000: Number of Unemployed Americans Hits 19-Year Low
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Caputh wrote:
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ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:

NO EVIDENCE PROVING TRUMP/RUSSIAN COLLUSION OR OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.


What part of this do you NOT understand, morons?! :roll:


Because that's what you and Sean Hannity say and not what the Mueller report says.

BTW have you realized that every time you write "ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:" you are admitting that you have failed to convince somebody; in fact, usually it's everybody.


No, that's what the report says. You might want to try reading it sometime...

How is it possible for you (or anyone) to be this fucking stupid?! :shock:

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https://www.thefreedictionary.com/denial


de·ni·al (dĭ-nī′əl)
n.
1. A refusal to comply with or satisfy a request.
2.
a. A refusal to grant the truth of a statement or allegation; a contradiction.
b. Law The formal challenge by a defendant of the truth of an allegation made by the plaintiff.
3.
a. A refusal to accept or believe something, such as a doctrine or belief.
b. Psychology An unconscious defense mechanism characterized by refusal to acknowledge painful realities, thoughts, or feelings.
4. The act of disowning or disavowing; repudiation.
5. Abstinence; self-denial.
disavowal of a person as one's leader.

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OH BOY !
We sure don't have the same keyboard !
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OH BOY !
We sure don't have the same keyboard !
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My keyboard is supplied by the FBI

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Capitalism runs in cycles, like the seasons, and predicting outcomes is a little like predicting the weather. Governments can actually do things that change how these cycles progress, for good or ill, but to date, historically, they haven't been able to stop the inevitable periodic rise and collapse of the global capitalist economy. Trying to take major credit for any part of it is much like King Canute stopping the tide. He had appropriate knowledge and it only seemed fantastic to the ignorant of his day.

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When governments include themselves into a capitalistic economic machine , it is no longer ' Capitalism '.
What you refer to is actually a ' mixed economy '.

How Capitalism Works
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Funny !
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Imagine a whole Zappa album !!!
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Mij wrote:
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Funny !
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Imagine a whole Zappa album !!!
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Might be a good way to take down the internet :mrgreen:


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Disco Boy wrote:
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ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:

NO EVIDENCE PROVING... OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.


What part of this do you NOT understand, morons?! :roll:


Because that's what you and Sean Hannity say and not what the Mueller report says.


No, that's what the report says. You might want to try reading it sometime...

How is it possible for you (or anyone) to be this fucking stupid?! :shock:



Some examples for evidence from the Mueller report, then...

Firing of James Comey
“Firing Comey would qualify as an obstructive act if it had the natural and probable effect of interfering with or impeding the investigation.” (Mueller Report, Vol. II, p. 74)
Substantial evidence” indicates that Trump fired Comey because of “Comey’s unwillingness to publicly state that the President was not personally under investigation.” (Mueller Report, Vol. II, p. 75)
"[E]vidence … indicates that the President wanted to protect himself from an investigation into his campaign.” (Mueller Report, Vol. II, p. 75.)

Efforts to fire Mueller
This “would qualify as an obstructive act” if the firing “would naturally obstruct the investigation and any grand jury proceedings that might flow from the inquiry.” (Mueller Report, Vol. II, p. 87.)
Substantial evidence indicates that the President’s attempts to remove the Special Counsel were linked to the Special Counsel’s oversight of investigations that involved the President’s conduct[.]” (Mueller Report, Vol. II, p. 89.)

Efforts to curtail Mueller
“[W]ould qualify as an obstructive act if it would naturally obstruct the investigation and any grand jury proceedings that might flow from the inquiry.” “Taken together, the President’s directives indicate that Sessions was being instructed to tell the Special Counsel to end the existing investigation into the President and his campaign[.]” (Mueller Report, Vol. II, p. 97.)
Substantial evidence” that Trump “intended to prevent further investigative scrutiny of the President’s and his campaign’s conduct.” (Mueller Report, Vol. II, p. 97.)

Efforts to have Sessions take over the investigation
"The duration of the President’s efforts … and the fact that the President repeatedly criticized Sessions in public and private for failing to tell the President that he would have to recuse is relevant to assessing whether the President’s efforts to have Sessions unrecuse could qualify as obstructive acts.” (Mueller Report, Vol. II, p.111.)
There is evidence that at least one purpose of the President’s conduct toward Sessions was to have Sessions assume control over the Russia investigation and supervise it in a way that would restrict its scope.” (Mueller Report, Vol. II, p.111.)

Order to McGahn to deny Trump’s order to fire Mueller
“[W]ould qualify as an obstructive act if it had the natural tendency to constrain McGahn from testifying truthfully or to undermine his credibility as a potential witness[.]” (Mueller Report, Vol. II, p. 118.)
Substantial evidence indicates that … the President acted for the purpose of influencing McGahn’s account in order to deflect or prevent further scrutiny”. (Mueller Report, Vol. II, p. 120.)

Conduct toward Michael Cohen
[T]he evidence … could support an inference that the President used inducements in the form of positive messages in an effort to get Cohen not to cooperate, and then turned to attacks and intimidation to deter the provision of information or to undermine Cohen’s credibility once Cohen began to cooperate.” (Mueller Report, Vol. II, p. 153.)
"There is evidence that could support the inference that the President intended to discourage Cohen from cooperating with the government. … The evidence could support an inference that the President was aware of [Cohen’s efforts to continue the Moscow Project past January 2016] at the time of Cohen’s false statements to Congress. … The President’s public remarks following Cohen’s guilty plea also suggest that the President may have been concerned about what Cohen told investigators about the Trump Tower Moscow project. … The President’s concern about Cohen cooperating may have been directed at the Southern District of New York investigation into other aspects of the President’s dealings with Cohen rather than the investigation of Trump Tower Moscow. There is also some evidence that the President’s concern about Cohen cooperating was based on the President’s stated belief that Cohen would provide false testimony against the President in an attempt to obtain a lesser sentence for his unrelated criminal conduct. … Finally, the President’s statements insinuating that members of Cohen’s family committed crimes after Cohen began cooperating with the government could be viewed as an effort to retaliate against Cohen and chill further testimony adverse to the President by Cohen or others.” (Mueller Report, Vol. II, p. 155.)

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(Mueller Report, Vol. II, p. 182. Exactly the same paragraph occurs in the introduction of Volume II on p.2 and on page eight.)

In addition, in contrast to Barr's claim that Mueller didn’t indicate whether he would leave the question of Trump’s possible obstruction of justice up to Congress, Mueller quite clearly states that...
"The conclusion that Congress may apply obstruction laws to the President’s corrupt exercise of the powers of office accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principle that no person is above the law." (Mueller Report, Vol II, p. eight.)

But you obviously know this all already, having read the report... :wink:

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SON. OF. ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:

THERE IS NO EVIDENCE PROVING TRUMP/RUSSIAN COLLUSION OR OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.


What part of this do you NOT understand?! :roll:

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What part of this do you NOT understand?! :roll:
Don't you understand we understand you don't understand? 8)

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pedro1 wrote:

If click bait sites are what you use for information and understanding then that explains a lot.

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When governments include themselves into a capitalistic economic machine , it is no longer ' Capitalism '.
What you refer to is actually a ' mixed economy '.
It's just semantics - unless a significant proportion of the means of production is publicly owned, which, in most western countries, is not the case. Early last century, many countries accepted utilities being publicly owned, but the bastards are even unravelling that. In the western world, the vast majority of the means of production and the wealth garnered thereof, is privately owned. A true mixed economy would have a significant proportion of the means of production as public enterprise, otherwise, how could a plan be possible? Governments can introduce whatever legislation they like, but while they don't actually own, or run, the means of production and continue to allow the owners to take very little social responsibility for their appropriation of what is fundamentally a social product, it's not a real mixed economy.

Spin it how you like, fashion the vehicle how you will, but it's still capitalism under the hood.

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Once upon a time there was a little boy called Disco. One day he watched Hannity and didn't read the Mueller Report.
Disco Boy wrote:
SON. OF. ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:

THERE IS NO EVIDENCE PROVING TRUMP/RUSSIAN COLLUSION OR OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.


What part of this do you NOT understand?! :roll:

And he and Hannity lived happily every after.

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All that patience trying to educate a guy who doesn't give a damn...
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All that time lost in a lost cause...
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Is it worth it, Caputh ?
Cause I suppose you know you'll never achieve anything with that kid, don't you ?

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The subject of this thread could also be described as a lost cause. Yet he never fails to entertain me in some weird way. How about you?
I love lost causes. :D

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