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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:00 pm 
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Pedro- I think we’re both wasting our breath. What you accuse Trump’s critics of are exactly what he is guilty of. I forget Zappa’s exact quote but he said something like trying to convince someone else to change their opinion is pointless because people basically believe what they believe and that’s that. I do believe some people have the ability and open mindedness to modify or change their views as more information becomes available to them and as they evolve intellectually, spiritually, and morally. I know I’ve changed my viewpoints on a lot of things over time. So called “swing voters” will be very important in the next Presidential election as some of them will be changing their minds. Voter turnout will also be important. You and I are not swing voters so there’s no point in us debating it any further. All policies aside, I like many others will continue to denounce Trump just on the basis of basic human decency. I know an asshole when I see one and Trump is an asshole. If that’s only an opinion and not a fact then I’ll just have to live with it.


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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:47 pm 
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Hey Pedro ! Believe it or not, WORDS MATTERS
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/pipe-bomber-cesar-sayoc-s-lawyers-named-trump-their-defense-ncna1040201

Trump brings the worst in each of us
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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:56 pm 
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Fact checking Trump's lies is a full time job
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/day6/ryan-mcmahon-on-mmiwg-nba-lessons-for-the-nhl-daniel-dale-fixing-deloreans-hbo-s-chernobyl-and-more-1.5165179/counting-trump-s-lies-daniel-dale-s-relentless-quest-to-fact-check-the-president-1.5165189

5276 lies by June 7th...

I've never changed my mind about that : If you keep believing a liar when you know he's lying, you're 100% stupid.
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You believe Trump ? I have the right to call you stupid.

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 Post subject: Re: all of it
PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:20 am 
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“We cannot negotiate with people who say what's mine is mine and what's yours is negotiable." John F Kennedy 25July 1961

I spent years trying to talk to pedro. But then I realized what he thinks he can do is negotiate over what is not his. And it's all because he's afraid he'll be treated like the 'brown' or poor people. He's one it seems who feels they NEED someone else to look down on, so he can feel better about himself. Just another lie he seems to have accepted as 'truth'.

Now he claims he is bullied. But he is free to espouse - to choose - whatever belief he likes. Or he can choose not to believe those false narratives. Like any of us, if he makes responsible choices he should be fine with being held accountable for them. If he and ... Tucker Carlson, Tomi Lahren etc.... continues to choose beliefs that only terrorizes more and more people so that he/they feel 'safe', then I think they forfeit their right to sit at the negotiators table. Because they are no longer 'negotiating' in good faith for the good of the majority. Same goes with gerrymanderers, etc.

If you think about it you may come to the same conclusion as I did, that the same feeling and tactics are those that are used by white supremacists.
Trvmp does it. And worse. If you think you can negotiate with them, they've already 'won'.

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pedro1 wrote:
... It's [KUIII's] opinion that he is flawed and doing great harm but [KUIII's] opinion doesn't create fact.
Other people have a different opinion and the lack of acceptance of that fact is what is dividing this country.

Oh, I get it now. KUIII's fact is just opinion, but your opinion is fact!

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pedro1 wrote:
... It's [KUIII's] opinion that he is flawed and doing great harm but [KUIII's] opinion doesn't create fact.
Other people have a different opinion and the lack of acceptance of that fact is what is dividing this country.
Oh, I get it now. KUIII's fact is just opinion, but your opinion is fact!
Yeah, well, Pedro claims we're hypocrites. :roll:

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Pedro-I do think you are like most Trump supporters though and are supporting a very flawed man who should not be President and is causing great harm to our country.
. . . I do take exception with the highlighted text above.
It's your opinion that he is flawed and doing great harm but your opinion doesn't create fact.
Other people have a different opinion and the lack of acceptance of that fact is what is dividing this country.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:10 am 
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punknaynowned wrote:

I spent years trying to talk to pedro. But then I realized what he thinks he can do is negotiate over what is not his. And it's all because he's afraid he'll be treated like the 'brown' or poor people. He's one it seems who feels they NEED someone else to look down on, so he can feel better about himself. Just another lie he seems to have accepted as 'truth'.



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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:38 am 
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We've lost Pedro for life.
He chose to be stupid.
And he has the right to be.

Hope that Trump tragedy will be over by 2020.
It made too many victims.
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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:42 am 
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Trump enemy is...
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2019/08/08/trumps-his-own-worst-political-enemy-after-tragedy-466346

The man is so bad that he's even bad to himself !
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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
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Trump's history in racism...
https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/8/7/20756775/el-paso-shooting-trump-hispanic-invasion

Only a blinded fool would not admit that Trump is a born-racist.
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Who can that fool be ?
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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:50 am 
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KUIII wrote:
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I can vouch for KU...he's not a groupie... :wink:

I’m not cute enough. Nobody wants me. :cry:



I smell a hit song in there, get your guitar out a d start writing... :smoke:


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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
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Only a racist would say that racist comments "brings people together"...
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/donald-trump-racism-brings-people-together

Normal and wise people would say that Trump is out of his mind.
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Humm....the sweet smell of hate, racism and division... miam miam
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Trump in trouble
https://www.minnpost.com/eric-black-ink/2019/08/not-in-a-good-place-trump-and-the-state-by-state-approval-polls/
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/07/trump-base-2020/594325/

To be fair, another opinion...
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/07/upshot/trump-approval-rating-rise.html

So, anti-Trump folks must vote and not stay home like some did when they thought Hillary would win easily.
If they do, Trump will be a thing of the past and Americans will then make America great again.
THE real America, not the phony hateful racist one Trump is building...
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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:47 pm 
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56 false claims last week.
Would Pedro call it a "petite" week ?
https://www.cnn.com/specials/politics/fact-check-politics

Worse, he would say they're all true !!!
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WARNING: Don't go too deep into this web page. You might get pretty sick...
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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:16 pm 
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Why not have a good laugh before supper ?
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2019/aug/08/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-hes-done-more-other-presidents-s/

In a vocabulary worthy of a 5 years old child,,,
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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
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I've been told that ' words matter ' from someone here.

Are these words racist ?

#25 – “Civil rights laws were not passed to protect the rights of white men and do not apply to them.” – Mary Frances Berry, former Chairwoman, US Commission on Civil Rights

#24 – “Let me see one of you adopt one of those ugly black babies.” – Abortionist Ashutosh Ron Virmani

#23 – “(I get to) kill all the white people… How great is that?” – Jamie Foxx discussing his Django Unchanged role



#22 – “(Blacks and Hispanics) are too busy eating watermelons and tacos to learn how to read and write.” – Mike Wallace, CBS News

#21 – “Tell Yao Ming, Ching chong-yang-wah-ah-soh.” – Shaquille O’Neil before meeting the Chinese basketball player

#20 – “White people shouldn’t be allowed to vote. It’s for the good of the country and for those who’re bitter for a reason and armed because they’re scared.” – Left-wing journalist Jonathan Valania

#19 – “You cannot go to a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian Accent. I’m not joking” – Joe Biden to a man of Indian descent

#18 – “I give interracial couples a look. Daggers. They get uncomfortable when they see me on the street.” – Spike Lee

#17 – “I want to go up to the closest white person and say: ‘You can’t understand this, it’s a black thing’ and then slap him, just for my mental health.” – New York City Councilman, Charles Barron

#16 – “We got to do something about these Asians coming in and opening up businesses and dirty shops. They ought to go.” – Former DC Mayor Marion Barry who was busted smoking crack with a prostitute

#15 – “The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn’t. But she is a typical white person…” – Barack Obama

#14 – “(Obama’s) a nice person, he’s very articulate this is what’s been used against him, but he couldn’t sell watermelons if it, you gave him the state troopers to flag down the traffic.” – Dan Rather, CBS Evening News

#13 – “…cook him up with some barbecued dog…cook that yellow chump. I’ll make that mother f**ker make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice.” – Boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr. talking about Philippine opponent Manny Pacqioa

#12 – “I can’t stand black guys. I would never touch one. It’s gross.” – Useless socialite and porn star Paris Hilton from Neil Strauss’s book “Everyone Loves You When You’re Dead”

#11 – “I’d rather be called a N*gger than a Slave.” – Film critic Roger Ebert

#10 – “Sometimes I wish slavery was still goin’ on” and “I don’t need black fans anyway. Y’all don’t buy albums.” – white female rapper Kreayshawn. Followed by the apology: “I am sorry, I LOVE FRIED CHICKEN!”

#9 – “I think one man is just as good as another so long as he’s not a n*gger or a Chinaman. Uncle Will says that the Lord made a White man from dust, a n*gger from mud, then He threw up what was left and it came down a Chinaman. He does hate Chinese and Japs. So do I. It is race prejudice, I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion Negroes ought to be in Africa, Yellow men in Asia and White men in Europe and America.” – Harry Truman in a letter to his future wife Bess

#8 – “Some junior high n*gger kicked Steve’s ass while he was trying to help his brothers out; junior high or sophomore in high school. Whatever it was, Steve had the n*gger down. However it was, it was Steve’s fault. He had the n*gger down, he let him up. The n*gger blindsided him.” – Roger Clinton, Bill’s hillbilly brother on audiotape

#7 – “A few years ago, (Barack Obama) would have been getting us coffee.” – Bill Clinton to Ted Kennedy

#6 – “You f*cking Jew bastard.” – Hillary Clinton to political operative Paul Fray. And let’s not forget: “I love this quote. It’s from Mahatma Gandhi. He ran a gas station down in St. Louis for a couple of years. Mr. Gandhi, do you still go to the gas station?”

#5 – “George Bush Doesn’t Care About Black People” – Kanye West on the President’s handling of Hurricane Katrina

#4 – “White folks was in caves while we was building empires… We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it.” – Rev. Al Sharpton in a 1994 speech at Kean College, NJ

#3 – “Hymies.” And “Hymietown.” — Jesse Jackson’s description of New York City while on the 1984 presidential campaign trail

#2 – “The white man is our mortal enemy, and we cannot accept him.” – Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan

#1 – “I’ll have those n**gers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” – Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One according Ronald Kessler’s book, “Inside The White House”


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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:32 pm 
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https://reason.com/2018/02/06/college-s ... otu-quotes


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Watch this bunch of deplorable assholes , especially the creep with the American Flag tee shirt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWr3Uhm ... ture=share


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pedro1 wrote:
https://reason.com/2018/02/06/college-students-trash-obama-sotu-quotes


It only means they hate Trump.
The name, man, the name !!!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:28 pm 
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pedro1 wrote:
Watch this bunch of deplorable assholes , especially the creep with the American Flag tee shirt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWr3Uhm ... ture=share


Have you had checked lately ?
Nothing wrong in picking up trash. Don't care who does it.

The following one is funnier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJgdxokVbTg

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OK, Trump is not the only racist
BUT AS PRESIDENT OF UNITED STATES HE HAS THE DUTY TO UNITE AMERICANS, NOT DIVIDE THEM

And by now, the Man in Power does the worst damage because of those stupid followers who takes his words as Gospel.
So, the urgency is Trump.
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Going back in the past ? Silly. The problem is NOW

I'll be glad when the World will be free of that Horrible Human Being
8)

Oh, this one's funny too...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2HZND1EHek
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