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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:39 pm 
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It's funny how both Republicans and Democrats in Congress have been taking to the idiot box to say exactly the opposite of what they said when Obama met with Raul Castro.

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As you undoubtedly don't recall, democrats were cautiously optimistic that this would lead to a thaw in relations between two longtime adversaries, while republicans were angry that the President of the United States would cheapen the office by allowing a two-bit dictator to look like a legitimate world leader...

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Fire & Fury claimed Trump offered a lot of money to Mexico to have the wall built and pretend Mexico'd pay for it. What did he pay the North Koreans?


Oh shut the fuck up you dumb ass bitch.



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MSNBC, just said this Korea agreement is no big deal, that the 2005 agreement was stronger. These people are hysterical. Liberals are incapable of seeing any good in this just because it’s Trump. THEY'RE BABIES!!
They are so desperate to bash Trump for anything he does that they had to go there on an absolutely historic evening. This is a great first step in what might be a peaceful resolution to a volatile 65 year stalemate. It really shows desperation and fear for the midterms. We all see through this crap. We’re sick of liberal bullshit. Enjoy the November red wave.



Truly a fantastic first step I will give credit where credit is due, but the Iranian agreement was an excellent agreement and yes it that could be fine tuned, it was a lot more than something and we know something is better than zero, which is what we have now... :idea:


Uh no!!!

Imagine if Obama had pulled off a political triumph like the Singapore Summit. The press would have been wetting themselves in ecstasy. Best he could do was hand over pallets of $$$ to his buddies in Iran in the dark of night. What a pathetic 8 years that was.

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^Just one? Why stop there?

Trump attacked Trudeau but ‘practically hugged’ dictator Kim Jong Un, says French foreign minister.

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Former game-show host, a dictator, and a former NBA basketball player go to a bar....

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He attacked Trudeu because he knows he’s a little pussy beta faggot. He was there to negotiate with Kim. It was just a gesture.

You libs do nothing but cry about everything. You’re children.


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^Just one? Why stop there?
Trump attacked Trudeau but ‘practically hugged’ dictator Kim Jong Un, says French foreign minister.


Yeah, and that alone is enough to conclude that this Pile of Shit is mentally inapt as a President.
Now, he said that we can all go to sleep cause there'll be no more nuclear threat from NK.
DO YOU REALLY THINK SO ?

Boy, will you be disappointed in not too long ago...
You have to be very gullible to swallow that one. Another lie, nothing more.
As if Kim JU will magically drop his defences, just like in a fairy tale.
Incredible the amount of shit that this Orange Baboon can produce in a single day.
Not your regular asshole. No, A MAJOR BIG ASSHOLE !!!
One you can see from the Moon !!!
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I hope America will regain his senses in November.
That's a climate that is not unlike the one existing in the late 20s and 30s.
(yeah, unlike some Pile of Shit fans, I read books !)

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Mij wrote:
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^Just one? Why stop there?
Trump attacked Trudeau but ‘practically hugged’ dictator Kim Jong Un, says French foreign minister.


Yeah, and that alone is enough to conclude that this Pile of Shit is mentally inapt as a President.
Now, he said that we can all go to sleep cause there'll be no more nuclear threat from NK.
DO YOU REALLY THINK SO ?

Boy, will you be disappointed in not too long ago...
You have to be very gullible to swallow that one. Another lie, nothing more.
As if Kim JU will magically drop his defences, just like in a fairy tale.
Incredible the amount of shit that this Orange Baboon can produce in a single day.
Not your regular asshole. No, A MAJOR BIG ASSHOLE !!!
One you can see from the Moon !!!
:cry:

I hope America will regain his senses in November.
That's a climate that is not unlike the one existing in the late 20s and 30s.
(yeah, unlike some Pile of Shit fans, I read books !)


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ChestPainsProds wrote:
Plook wrote:
ChestPainsProds wrote:
MSNBC, just said this Korea agreement is no big deal, that the 2005 agreement was stronger. These people are hysterical. Liberals are incapable of seeing any good in this just because it’s Trump. THEY'RE BABIES!!
They are so desperate to bash Trump for anything he does that they had to go there on an absolutely historic evening. This is a great first step in what might be a peaceful resolution to a volatile 65 year stalemate. It really shows desperation and fear for the midterms. We all see through this crap. We’re sick of liberal bullshit. Enjoy the November red wave.



Truly a fantastic first step I will give credit where credit is due, but the Iranian agreement was an excellent agreement and yes it that could be fine tuned, it was a lot more than something and we know something is better than zero, which is what we have now... :idea:


Uh no!!!

Imagine if Obama had pulled off a political triumph like the Singapore Summit. The press would have been wetting themselves in ecstasy. Best he could do was hand over pallets of $$$ to his buddies in Iran in the dark of night. What a pathetic 8 years that was.

FUCK OBAMA!!



The Obama administration would have got something more than a vague promise of disarmament (that will take many years) for US military reductions in the region that will happen amediatly... :idea:


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jaypfunk prefers white knights who look this...

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Wow Caputh.

BE MORE HACKY!!


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Pulling out of military activities in the Korean peninsula is a massive failure of leadership. Trump is going to look like the single
biggest failure in US history when he doesn't convince North Korea to fully denuclearize. His supporters are fools.

Anything short of North Korea fully giving up their nukes will be a catastrophic failure. Guaranteed they won't without going into war. Just when you thought it couldn't get any more stupid.


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Just when you thought it couldn't get any more stupid.


YOU post again!!

Go to hell you fucking dipshit.


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Wow Caputh.

BE MORE HACKY!!


I'm learning from the master. Rather like Trump from Kim, really...
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Pulling out of military activities in the Korean peninsula is a massive failure of leadership. Trump is going to look like the single
biggest failure in US history when he doesn't convince North Korea to fully denuclearize. His supporters are fools.

Anything short of North Korea fully giving up their nukes will be a catastrophic failure. Guaranteed they won't without going into war. Just when you thought it couldn't get any more stupid.

Next "war games" with S. Korea will be 11 months from now. Plenty of time for N. Korea to break their word before then.

By the way, stop guaranteeing stuff. You guaranteed Trump wouldn't be a candidate, then guaranteed he wouldn't be president. I just can't take your word on anything, anymore.

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Plook wrote:

The Obama administration would have got something more than a vague promise of disarmament (that will take many years) for US military reductions in the region that will happen amediatly... :idea:


No they wouldn't have. They were WEAK and he was WEAK!! Obama would have bowed, apologized for the "horrible" USA and then paid NK a shit ton of money just to appease them. Trump is actually making progress with that Moe Howard haircut asshole KJU.

Stop kissing Obama's stupid shit ass already.

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Pile of Shit didn't get very much, in fact, nothing out of Kim J.U.
But after the G7 he had to "make" a success of whatever would have been on the table at Singapour.
That stupid moron doesn't even know where his real friends are.
Mentally inapt to be a leader.

And we have a winner, and it's not Trump !

:smoke:

I feel like his fans will have a severe Wake-up call.
Some will deny it as long as they can though...
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ChestPainsProds wrote:
Plook wrote:

The Obama administration would have got something more than a vague promise of disarmament (that will take many years) for US military reductions in the region that will happen amediatly... :idea:


No they wouldn't have. They were WEAK and he was WEAK!! Obama would have bowed, apologized for the "horrible" USA and then paid NK a shit ton of money just to appease them. Trump is actually making progress with that Moe Howard haircut asshole KJU.

Stop kissing Obama's stupid shit ass already.

FUCK OFF!!!



Singapore agreement one page no details, no guarantees, fake deal...the Iranian Agreement 159 pages with very strict parameters real deal, overview as follows:

The joint statement

The joint statement outlines the following:[9]

Enrichment
Iran's enrichment capacity, enrichment level and stockpile will be limited for specified durations.
There will be no enrichment facilities other than Natanz.
Iran is allowed to conduct research and development on centrifuges with an agreed scope and schedule.
Fordo, the underground enrichment center,[11] will be converted to a "nuclear, physics and technology centre".

Reprocessing
The heavy water facility in Arak with help of international venture will be redesigned and modernized to "Heavy Water Research Reactor" with no weapon grade plutonium byproducts.
The spent fuel will be exported, there will be no reprocessing.

Monitoring
Implementation of the modified Code 3.1 and provisional application of the Additional Protocol.
Iran agreed IAEA procedure which enhanced access by modern technologies to clarify past and present issues.

Sanctions

When the IAEA verifies Iran's implementation of its key nuclear commitments:
The EU will terminate all nuclear-related economic sanctions.
The United States will cease the application of all nuclear-related secondary economic and financial sanctions.
The UN Security Council will endorse this agreement with a resolution which terminates all previous nuclear-related resolutions and incorporate certain restrictive measures for a mutually agreed period of time.

Other listed parameters and reactions by the United States and Iran

In addition to the final statement, both the United States and Iran have made public more detailed descriptions of their agreement. Officials of both sides acknowledge that they have different narratives on this draft.[10] The U.S. government has published a fact sheet summarizing the main points of the deal.[12] Shortly after it was published, top Iranian officials, including the Iranian supreme leader and the Iranian minister of defense have disputed the document on key points which remain unresolved.[13][14][15]

On 22 July 2015, Abbas Araghchi, Iran’s deputy foreign minister who led the negotiations, made an announcement on state-controlled television that the recently reached nuclear deal with the world powers did not include limitations on Iran’s weapons capabilities or missile power and that Tehran would keep arming its regional allies. "We have told them [the P5+1 world powers] in the negotiations that we will supply arms to anyone and anywhere necessary and will import weapons from anywhere we want and we have clarified this during the negotiations," Araghchi said.[16]

In a speech the following Saturday, Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei added, "Our policy will not change with regards to the arrogant US government."[16]

Enrichment

See also: Nuclear program of Iran

According to details of the deal published by the US government, Iran's uranium stockpile will be reduced by 98% to 300 kg (660 lbs) for 15 years. The level of enrichment must also remain at 3.67%. Iran will retain no more than 6,104 out of almost 20,000 centrifuges it possesses. There are two uranium enrichment facilities in Iran—Natanz and Fordo. Under the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) agreed on 14 July, the Natanz facility will be limited to installing no more than 5,060 of the oldest and least efficient centrifuges for 10 years. At Fordo, no enrichment will be permitted for 15 years, and the underground facility will be converted into a nuclear, physics and technology centre. 1,044 centrifuges at the site will produce radioisotopes for use in medicine, agriculture, industry and science.[17][18] This level of enrichment, 3.67%, would be enough just for peaceful and civil use to power parts of country and therefore is not sufficient for building a nuclear bomb.[19]

According to press TV report based on Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), Iran's extra centrifuges and the related infrastructure in the Natanz facility will be collected by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in order to be replaced by new machines consistent with the allowed standards. Iran will be allowed to allocate the current stockpile of enriched materials for the purpose of producing nuclear fuel or swapping it with uranium in the international markets. These comprehensive solutions permit Iran to continue its enrichment program inside its territory and also allowed to continue its production of nuclear fuel for running its nuclear power plants.[20]

Fordo

According to the U.S. State Department fact sheet and a joint statement by Iran and the EU, Iran has agreed to convert its underground Fordo facility into a research centre for nuclear science and physics and about half of the Fordo facility would be dedicated to advanced nuclear research and production of stable radioisotopes which have important applications in medicine, agriculture, industry and science.[18] Furthermore, Iran would maintain no more than 1,044 centrifuges for this purpose.[20]

Sanctions

See also: Sanctions against Iran and U.S. sanctions against Iran

According to Press TV, the implementation of JCPOA followed by lifting of all the UN Security Council sanctions as well as all economic and financial embargoes by the United States and the European Union imposed on Iran's banks, insurance, investment, and all other related services in different fields, including petrochemical, oil, gas and automobile industries will be immediately lifted all at once.[20] However, according to the fact sheet which is published by the U.S. government, U.S. and EU nuclear-related sanctions will be suspended after the IAEA has verified the implementation of the key nuclear-related steps by Iran.[18]

Inspections and transparency

Iran will be required to provide the International Atomic Energy Agency access to all of its declared facilities so that the agency can be assured of the peaceful nature of the nuclear program.[19] According to details of the deal published by the U.S. government, IAEA inspectors would have access to all of the nuclear facilities including enrichment facilities, the supply chain that supports the nuclear program and uranium mines as well as continuous surveillance at uranium mills, centrifuge rotors and bellows production and storage facilities. Iran will be required to grant access to the IAEA to investigate suspicious sites or allegations of a covert enrichment facility, conversion facility, centrifuge production facility, or yellowcake production facility anywhere in the country. Iran will implement an agreed set of measures to address the IAEA’s concerns regarding the Possible Military Dimensions (PMD) of its program.[18]

According to the Iranian fact sheet, Iran will implement the Additional Protocol temporarily and voluntarily in line with its confidence-building measures and after that the protocol will be ratified in a time frame by the Iranian government and parliament (Majlis).[20]

Summary of agreement

Parameters of prospective actions by P5+1[21]

Lift all sanctions within 4 to 12 months of a final accord.
Develop a mechanism to restore old sanctions if Iran fails to comply as per IAEA reports and inspection.
The EU will remove energy and banking sanctions.
The United States will remove sanctions against domestic and foreign companies who do business with Iran.
All UN resolutions sanctioning Iran will be annulled.
All UN-related sanctions will be dismantled.

Parameters of prospective actions by Iran[21]

Reduction in the number of installed centrifuges from 19,000 to 6,104 and only 5,060 of these enriching uranium for 10 years.[22][23]
No enriched uranium above 3.67% purity (suitable for civil use and nuclear power generation only).
Reduce stockpile of enriched uranium from current 10,000 to not more than 300 kilograms 3.67 percent enrich uranium for 15 years.
Fordo uranium enrichment facility will operate not more than 1,000 centrifuges for research. 5,000 R-1 centrifuges will be running at Natanz. The remaining 13,000 centrifuges will be used as spare, as needed.
Arak facility will be modified so as to produce a minimal amount of plutonium but will remain a heavy-water reactor.
Allow inspection of all its nuclear facilities and its supply chains such as uranium mining sites .


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Still looking for evidence of previous president -the one Don is obsessed with- to find the listening device he placed in the Oval Office to spy on him. Y'know, like...oh...I don't know...an actual listening device. :roll:

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