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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:17 am 
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"A squid eating dough in a polyethene bag is fast a bulbous!...got me?!"


I bought TMR on vinyl (UK Straight) back in 1997 and like you absolutely loved Pachuco Cadaver from the very first listen. I still find the end section quite moving (steady on 'Drum!). The lyrics are gorgeous - "her lovin' sticks out like straws"
Send's a tingle down my spine just thinking about it 8)

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:43 pm 
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Listened 3 times. Never liked it. Don't play it anymore.

Shit, too bad. It only really kicks in on the fourth listen. :P


I listened it again last week. And to think I trusted you!

:lol: Sorry, I was just pulling your leg. It's really the fifth time. Honest. :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:25 am 
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:lol: Sorry, I was just pulling your leg. It's really the fifth time. Honest. :mrgreen:


Never again. Never!


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:54 am 
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:lol: Sorry, I was just pulling your leg. It's really the fifth time. Honest. :mrgreen:


Never again. Never!

Stick with "Ella Guru", forget the rest.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:06 am 
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Hmmmm... CB as a One-Hit Wonder? Hadn't thought of that before!

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:24 pm 
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Hmmmm... CB as a One-Hit Wonder? Hadn't thought of that before!

After reading a couple books about CB I would say he took a lot of hits. :mrgreen:


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Trout Mask Replica is a masterpiece, but I prefer Lick My Decals Off Baby. It's a shame it's out of print on CD.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:43 pm 
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That's right, The Mascara Snake, fast 'n bulbous!

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:41 pm 
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The Cap'n really did invent a whole new style of music with Trout Mask...
but if it wasn't for Bill Harkleroad he couldn't have done it
Apparently Don would come up with doodles and piano plonks and leave Bill to arrange it into something
So thanks to the Cap'n for wielding the stick...but it's really 75% Zoot Horn Rollo

I still think it's an important landmark in the concept of music
But if the girlfriend's around I'll put Moonbeams on...
otherwise it's Clear Spot, which to me is the ultimate expression of the Trout Mask formula

That said, I agree that Moonlight on Vermont is the best song in the history of the Universe


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:17 am 
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mutronboy wrote:
The Cap'n really did invent a whole new style of music with Trout Mask...
but if it wasn't for Bill Harkleroad he couldn't have done it
Apparently Don would come up with doodles and piano plonks and leave Bill to arrange it into something
So thanks to the Cap'n for wielding the stick...but it's really 75% Zoot Horn Rollo

I still think it's an important landmark in the concept of music
But if the girlfriend's around I'll put Moonbeams on...
otherwise it's Clear Spot, which to me is the ultimate expression of the Trout Mask formula

That said, I agree that Moonlight on Vermont is the best song in the history of the Universe


I know what you mean about Moonlight, it's almost too good.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:00 am 
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I always used to play Trout Mask Replica on the 17th of May, Norway's national day. It was the most alternative thing I could imagine.


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mutronboy wrote:
The Cap'n really did invent a whole new style of music with Trout Mask...
but if it wasn't for Bill Harkleroad he couldn't have done it
Apparently Don would come up with doodles and piano plonks and leave Bill to arrange it into something
So thanks to the Cap'n for wielding the stick...but it's really 75% Zoot Horn Rollo


according to wikipedia it was john french:

Van Vliet used a piano—an instrument he had never played before—as his main compositional tool. Since he had no experience with the piano and no conventional musical knowledge at all, he was able to experiment with no preconceived ideas of musical form or structure. Beefheart sat at the piano until he found a rhythmic or melodic pattern that he liked. Mike Barnes compared this approach to John Cage's "maverick irreverence toward classical tradition".[12] John French then transcribed this pattern, typically only a measure or two long, into musical notation. After Beefheart was finished French would then piece these fragments together into compositions, reminiscent of the splicing together of disparate source material on Marker's tape. French decided which part would be played on which instrument and taught each player their part, although Van Vliet had final say over the ultimate shape of the product.

i haven't yet been able to find another source to confirm it.

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sleeping in a jar wrote:
mutronboy wrote:
The Cap'n really did invent a whole new style of music with Trout Mask...
but if it wasn't for Bill Harkleroad he couldn't have done it
Apparently Don would come up with doodles and piano plonks and leave Bill to arrange it into something
So thanks to the Cap'n for wielding the stick...but it's really 75% Zoot Horn Rollo


according to wikipedia it was john french:

Van Vliet used a piano—an instrument he had never played before—as his main compositional tool. Since he had no experience with the piano and no conventional musical knowledge at all, he was able to experiment with no preconceived ideas of musical form or structure. Beefheart sat at the piano until he found a rhythmic or melodic pattern that he liked. Mike Barnes compared this approach to John Cage's "maverick irreverence toward classical tradition".[12] John French then transcribed this pattern, typically only a measure or two long, into musical notation. After Beefheart was finished French would then piece these fragments together into compositions, reminiscent of the splicing together of disparate source material on Marker's tape. French decided which part would be played on which instrument and taught each player their part, although Van Vliet had final say over the ultimate shape of the product.

i haven't yet been able to find another source to confirm it.


Thanks sleepinginajar, I stand corrected,
I always remembered it as Zoot Horn, but I remembered wrong
I still think Zoot Horn's manic styling contributed a lot to that album tho', heh


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mutronboy wrote:
sleeping in a jar wrote:
mutronboy wrote:
The Cap'n really did invent a whole new style of music with Trout Mask...
but if it wasn't for Bill Harkleroad he couldn't have done it
Apparently Don would come up with doodles and piano plonks and leave Bill to arrange it into something
So thanks to the Cap'n for wielding the stick...but it's really 75% Zoot Horn Rollo


according to wikipedia it was john french:

Van Vliet used a piano—an instrument he had never played before—as his main compositional tool. Since he had no experience with the piano and no conventional musical knowledge at all, he was able to experiment with no preconceived ideas of musical form or structure. Beefheart sat at the piano until he found a rhythmic or melodic pattern that he liked. Mike Barnes compared this approach to John Cage's "maverick irreverence toward classical tradition".[12] John French then transcribed this pattern, typically only a measure or two long, into musical notation. After Beefheart was finished French would then piece these fragments together into compositions, reminiscent of the splicing together of disparate source material on Marker's tape. French decided which part would be played on which instrument and taught each player their part, although Van Vliet had final say over the ultimate shape of the product.

i haven't yet been able to find another source to confirm it.


Thanks sleepinginajar, I stand corrected,
I always remembered it as Zoot Horn, but I remembered wrong
I still think Zoot Horn's manic styling contributed a lot to that album tho', heh

Zoot Horn had a similar role on Lick My Decals Off, Baby. Using a tape recorder to take down Don's ideas then arranging and teaching them to the rest of the band.


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The more I listen to it the more I pick up different things. It is such a bizarre and wonderful album. I think that if you understand the album their is something messed up with you...when people say tome they don't get it, I say "good, it means you were brought up properly" lol...the scary thing is I am starting to understand it myself.


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Captain Beefheart’s Trout Mask Replica Gets Huge Reissue With Actual Trout Mask
Third Man Records’ latest vault package is an elaborate tribute to Don Van Vliet
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Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band’s classic 1969 album Trout Mask Replica is getting a huge reissue from Third Man Records. It’s available through the label’s vault package subscription, which is now open through April 30. The set features the remastered record on 2xLP “fish scale” colored vinyl, an actual replica trout mask, the first-ever repressing of the “Pachucho Cadaver” 7" single, a print featuring Jack White’s epitaph for Don Van Vliet, and more. Third Man notes that it’s “bulbous and also tapered.” See the full package below. The reissue also marks the re-launch of the Frank Zappa’s Bizarre label imprint.

https://pitchfork.com/news/captain-beef ... rout-mask/

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^^I hope they put out a new cd release. They need to re-release Bat Chain Puller, too.


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^^I hope they put out a new cd release. They need to re-release Bat Chain Puller, too.



When the time comes, I'll be adding/updating to my Captain Beefheart collection

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The trout mask always looked more like a cat fish than a trout

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Max Lobster wrote:
The trout mask always looked more like a cat fish than a trout


I believe it's actually a carp.

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Give me a small tissue sample and I can resolve the issue with a DNA barcode analysis:

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I'm kidding, it looks like a cyprinid (i.e. a carp).

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You can't fool me, that DNA sample belongs to Paul Ryan.

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Shrewnews wrote:
Max Lobster wrote:
The trout mask always looked more like a cat fish than a trout


I believe it's actually a carp.


Hey you're right! C'mon Captain details!!


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