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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:58 pm 
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Here are the eleven signs of gaslighting. See how many you recognize:

1. They tell blatant lies.
2. They deny they ever said something, even though you have proof.
3. They use what is near and dear to you as ammunition.
4. They wear you down over time.
5. Their actions do not match their words.
6. They throw in positive reinforcement to confuse you.
7. They know confusion weakens people.
8. They project.
9. They try to align people against you.
10. They tell you or others that you are crazy.
11. They tell you everyone else is a liar.

And here's the Psychology Today article that explains all eleven:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/here-there-and-everywhere/201701/11-warning-signs-gaslighting
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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:54 pm 
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Tweedle-Dumb-Diane-Bean-Counter wrote:
Bingo. That and also a massive dose of cognitive dissonance. Same for DB.


I can't wait until Trump wins again next year. Most of this forum and yourself will be twice as pissed and will be doubling down on stupid! :mrgreen:

MentalTossFlycoon wrote:
Here are the eleven signs of gaslighting. See how many you recognize:

1. They tell blatant lies.
2. They deny they ever said something, even though you have proof.
3. They use what is near and dear to you as ammunition.
4. They wear you down over time.
5. Their actions do not match their words.
6. They throw in positive reinforcement to confuse you.
7. They know confusion weakens people.
8. They project.
9. They try to align people against you.
10. They tell you or others that you are crazy.
11. They tell you everyone else is a liar.

And here's the Psychology Today article that explains all eleven:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/here-there-and-everywhere/201701/11-warning-signs-gaslighting


That's the majority of this very forum. Oh, the irony... :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:05 pm 
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It would be fun to see Trump facing challenge from his own party.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/08/13/mark-sanford-donald-trump-big-storm-coming-sot-vpx-lead.cnn

Wish it's the start of a long list.
Let's be honest... anyone could do a better job than Trump !
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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:07 pm 
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Trump is feeling tired. He was not top shape this week.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/14/politics/weekly-fact-check-donald-trump-21-false/index.html

He's slowing down. Only an average of 3 lies a day ? I think he shoud consult soon...
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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
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Rewriting the Statue of Liberty ?
Maybe it should have been rewritten BEFORE the Trump emigrated in USA.
https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/the-trump-team-rewrites-the-statue-of-liberty-66039877965

USA is becoming crazy
:P

An economic policy that is a disaster... one more !

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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:15 pm 
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Oh ! IT WOULD BE FUN !!!
Renaming 5th Avenue to Obama Avenue.
Just in front on the Trump Tower !
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/457303-over-70000-people-sign-onto-petition-seeking-to-rename-street

Prepare for a storm of tweets !!!
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:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:33 am 
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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:40 am 
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AUGUST 14, 2019
ANOTHER DAY WITH ROTTEN TRUMP


First, there's disapproval going steady, and improving
https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/trump-s-dismal-state-by-state-job-approval-66036805512
OK, that's the GOOD news....
:mrgreen:


Now, what about some lies, about environment
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/14/politics/donald-trump-pennsylvania-speech-energy/index.html
Trump is an enenmy of environment. You should know that by now.
:P :P :P :P :P


FRANK warned us about "Plastic People". Was he aware that Trump was one of them ?
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/14/politics/plastic-trump-recycling/index.html
:P :P :P :P :P


He could have taken informations around instead of making, once again, a fool of himself...
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/14/politics/trump-blagojevich-commutation-illinois-republicans/index.html
:P :P :P :P :P


Remember:
PAY MORE , SELL LESS
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-14/trump-tariffs-to-hurt-u-s-farmers-more-than-china-counterparts

It's the work of a "Stable Genius" !!!
I pity the folks who still think Trump knows what he's doing, cause indeed he doesn't have a clue.
:P :P :P :P :P

MORE TO COME AS THE NEWS UNFOLD...

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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:48 am 
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THIS IS A JOB FOR . . . STABLE GENIUS !!!

Always a pleasure to read about the "STABLE GENIUS" failures in Economy
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-14/trump-faces-election-reality-on-trade-war-pain

Recession anyone ?
:mrgreen: :P

Just glad he's not in charge of Canada's economy !
It's not really that good but it would be worse !! We'd go bankrupt.
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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:24 pm 
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OK, OK, I admit it ! I have a burst of laughter when I read about the damage done by "STABLE GENIUS".
Couldn't resist that one...
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/14/politics/2020-election-trump-recession-risk/index.html

Pedro, please, stop bursting your head against the wall !
There's nothing you can do to stop Trump, and nothing you can say to excuse him. Understand ?

Meanwhile, in my secret location, I'm having a ball.
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PS: I sincerely feel sorry for the REAL Americans. They don't deserve the effects of bad policies from a real bad President.
:( :( :( :( :(
I know you folks deserve way much better. Let's hope 2020 will put an end to that madness.
There's still some hope
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/457480-trump-disapproval-rises-to-near-record-fox-news-poll

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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
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Well the farmers are finally realizing that he is an idiot and has no idea how to make a deal much less not screw everything up, one group down several to go, we can never expect 3 groups to come around;

1.) The white supremacists - for obvious reason (we don't want them anyway)

2.) The hard core religious people - they believe he will start Armageddon war and the second coming of Jesus (BTW Pence is all in with that crowd and if Cheat-O got jacked out Pence may push the button to fulfill his perceived destiny)

3.) The Conspiracy Heads - Face it no matter what happens it ends up being a conspiracy.

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Plook wrote:
Face it no matter what happens it ends up being a conspiracy.
And that's a conspiracy, too!

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just plain doug wrote:
Plook wrote:
Face it no matter what happens it ends up being a conspiracy.
And that's a conspiracy, too!


Oh absolutely! I mean, there's just so much to choose from, especially the most egregious being Trump/Russia collusion!!! :shock:

Oh, wait a minute...that's the left's go to conspiracy theory... :oops:

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just plain doug wrote:
Plook wrote:
Face it no matter what happens it ends up being a conspiracy.
And that's a conspiracy, too!


not really...
some people hold other opinions
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 Post subject: Re: #LandofDolt45
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punknaynowned wrote:
just plain doug wrote:
Plook wrote:
Face it no matter what happens it ends up being a conspiracy.
And that's a conspiracy, too!


not really...
some people hold other opinions
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But you can fathom all of us being dirt poor instead. Because if you've studied history (?!), that's what actually happens when socialism is implemented!!! :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
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The problem punknaynowned is that Americans can't make the difference between socialism and communism.
A lot think it's the same.
In a speech, a politician just have to say the word "socialist" and a lot of ordinary folks will picture
a regime à la USSR.
Victims of their own uneducation.

Some solialist politics are good. Like I wouldn't want to pay each time I go to the Hospital.
Health is not a luxury.

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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:17 am 
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MentalTossFlycoon wrote:
Here are the eleven signs of gaslighting. See how many you recognize:

1. They tell blatant lies.
2. They deny they ever said something, even though you have proof.
3. They use what is near and dear to you as ammunition.
4. They wear you down over time.
5. Their actions do not match their words.
6. They throw in positive reinforcement to confuse you.
7. They know confusion weakens people.
8. They project.
9. They try to align people against you.
10. They tell you or others that you are crazy.
11. They tell you everyone else is a liar.

And here's the Psychology Today article that explains all eleven:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/here-there-and-everywhere/201701/11-warning-signs-gaslighting


Examples being...
1. They tell blatant lies.
Quote:
YOU were the one that stated a few months back, "Socialism is the future."

Quote:
You damn well know you said, "Socialism is the future."

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the reason why I haven't posted your quote is simply because I can't find it or that you deleted it.


2. They deny they ever said something, even though you have proof.
Quote:
I NEVER said FZ was strictly libertarian

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"...I'm absolutely a Libertarian on MANY issues..." ~ Frank Zappa, Rochester, NY, March 11, 1988


3. They use what is near and dear to you as ammunition.
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Maybe if you learn to speak and write English properly, you'll start to make sense?


4. They wear you down over time.
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ONE.MORE.TIME.FOR.THE.WORLD


5. Their actions do not match their words.
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More ad hominem attacks without ANY evidence, explanation or argument to the contrary. What a HUGE surprise

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Go die in a bus fire, you liberal moron


6. They throw in positive reinforcement to confuse you. (a difficult one, this)
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Even though I already know all about the important details discussed from the link in question, thanks for posting it.


7. They know confusion weakens people.
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The labor force participation rate remained at a 36-year low of 62.8 percent

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more positively consistent monthly labor force participation rates (as of May 2019, 62.8%) than most months Obama was in office


8. They project.
Quote:
from someone who thinks that, "Socialism is the future."


9. They try to align people against you.
Quote:
there are other conservatives here, beside pedro1 and myself (it's just that they don't post often, nor do over 95% of the Z forum members)


10. They tell you or others that you are crazy.
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Your bat-shit-fucking-crazy liberal friends and you constantly create narratives that contain ZERO proof, evidence, logic or FACTS.


11. They tell you everyone else is a liar.
Quote:
That's the majority of this very forum. Oh, the irony...

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 Post subject: Re: trump
PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:21 am 
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^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
excellent post, caputh. brilliant. 8)


and thanks to mentaltossflycoon for giving you the inspiration.

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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
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The STABLE GENIUS at work...
https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2019/08/14/wall-street-dow-tumbles-recession-indicator-alesci-sot-lead-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/stories-worth-watching/

When it looks like a recession coming, when it smells like a recession coming, well... guess what's coming
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Mij wrote:
When it looks like a recession coming, when it smells like a recession coming, well... guess what's coming


A duck?

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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:32 am 
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Primary challenge against Trump ?
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/15/politics/joe-walsh-primary-challenge-trump-2020-cnntv/index.html

It probably won't happen (the Reps are too coward) but nevertheless the thought is amusing...
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Trump acting like Big Brother...
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/15/world/middleeast/trump-israel-omar-tlaib.html

If he goes farther than that about the rest of the World these women will never be able to return in their "shit" country !
:mrgreen:

Well, it's the talk of the town right now
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2019/aug/15/trump-news-today-live-omar-tlaib-israel-2020-democrats-race-latest-updates
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/457556-lawmakers-blast-trump-as-israel-bars-door-to-tlaib-and-omar
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49363041
https://www.msnbc.com/craig-melvin/watch/israel-to-block-visit-by-reps-omar-and-tlaib-after-trump-tweet-66176069619

For his fans, Trump is GOD. For about the rest of the World, he's just NUT.
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Lumpy Gravy wrote:
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
excellent post, caputh. brilliant. 8)


and thanks to mentaltossflycoon for giving you the inspiration.


I'm glad you enjoyed it. :D

Thank you, MTF, as well, for a very interesting article. I hope your eyes have not completely burned out - I must admit that mine were reddening by the time I reached # 11.

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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
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Trump is not open to criticism from anybody.
He wants to be surrounded by YES men. Like those bubble heads toys I had when I was young.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/spy-chief-dan-coats-leaves-post-feud-trump-190815112249231.html

Smart people can't seem to get along with "STABLE GENIUS"
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 Post subject: Re: TRUMP
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Bas news for "STABLE GENIUS"
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/08/15/trump-rating-down-fox-news-poll-following-mass-shootings/2017726001/
https://www.theroot.com/trumps-going-to-be-big-mad-fox-news-poll-show-the-pres-1837279402

It's only a poll, so no rejoicing.
Polls were so wrong in 2016.
:oops:

But when it's on FOX, Trump lovers will take it seriously cause it must be true !
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 Post subject: Re: trump
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^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
excellent post, caputh. brilliant. 8)

Agreed. Caputh has a lot more patience than I do...

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