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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:02 pm 
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apologies if I'm cross posting


At the 4 min 30 second time, on the live version during the time the trombone player is doing an inane dance, the time signature is very strange. I am hoping that someone here can shed light on it.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:42 am 
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It's in 3. Even the My Sharona part. And the dance isn't inane, buster, it's ART. :)

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:24 pm 
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The drums go from a half time to a six feel but it seems like the measures are not the same length compared to the rest of the piece.
What does My Sharona mean in this context?


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Exactly the same as the dance does. They're having fun.

I think the tempo stays the same - Frank appears to be doing his threestroke (down on the first count, to the right on the second, to the top on the third) throughout the piece, imitating it keeps it at the same tempo. The drums accent the afterbeat through most of the piece but at this point, it only accentuates the beat.

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Ronny's Noomies wrote:
It's in 3. Even the My Sharona part. And the dance isn't inane, buster, it's ART. :)



Counting that section in 6 did help. The rest of the piece has a 'loping' 1/2 time 3 reggae feel.

As far as the 'inane' comment; perhaps I should have said, "the section in which the trombone player is dancing in a manner that 'mocks convention'".


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:54 pm 
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CL wrote:
The drums go from a half time to a six feel but it seems like the measures are not the same length compared to the rest of the piece.
What does My Sharona mean in this context?

At one point, there's a quick snippet of My Sharona.

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CL wrote:
Ronny's Noomies wrote:
It's in 3. Even the My Sharona part. And the dance isn't inane, buster, it's ART. :)



Counting that section in 6 did help. The rest of the piece has a 'loping' 1/2 time 3 reggae feel.

As far as the 'inane' comment; perhaps I should have said, "the section in which the trombone player is dancing in a manner that 'mocks convention'".

Nah, inane pretty well sums it up. :D

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Ronny's Noomies wrote:
Nah, inane pretty well sums it up. :D


This section is really very literary, as Bruce is pantomiming Macbeth. He represents Birnam Wood, and he has come to dance inane.

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^^ I knew that. :wink:

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