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I was there.

Of course

Anybody else?






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Yep - two shows (27 Jan & 28 Feb).

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I wasn't there. But, I just recently purchased the release. And, I'm loving it. Sound quality is pretty good to my ears.

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I've read that Dave Gregory (later of XTC) was there.

Out To Lunch

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Buffalo is what you need lad

Methinks that that is possibly one of Frank's four top live albums....

Trust me

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And Me i go for even better than All Analog live All Digital live.

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Arf you out of your fucking mind.

Not 'arf lad

Not 'arf!











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You're confusing me now. Thought your thread was about Hammersmith?

I have Buffalo, and enjoy it more than Hammersmith.

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"Everything dies baby that's a fact
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Agree. Buffalo is great. Hammersmith is from a great band but is only good.

I like Buffalo a lot, but I love Hammersmith.

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Buffalo's nice every now and then, but by 1980 FZ' setlists were clearly heavier on vocal songs and crowd-pleasing antics/"greatest hits" kinda setlists. The Belew/Bozzio lineup still featured "pure musicky" bits alongside so called "comedy music" portions. Therefore, "Hammersmith Odeon" is still an essential album, feature as it does the pieces like "King Kong" (the hard, fast swinging version, fuck reggae!) and "Little House I Used to Live In". I'm pleased there is a Spring '78 arrangement of the latter tune.

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My internal jury is still out on Hammersmith Odeon, mostly because I like listening to albums in their entirety, and with a 7 year old kid and pregnant wife I seldom get the chance to delve into a three hour set... The last time was on a 1200 km drive from Oslo to Hell and back last December - okay it was not really Hell, but Stjørdal a few miles from Hell... you can find the distance on Google Maps HO has many fine moments, but the sound is slightly dull to my ears - check out the last drum roll in Pound For A Brown; it's more like going out with a fizzle or a whimper than the real bang that proper mixing and equalization probably could have intimated. The HO King Kong is energetic and wonderful, though!

However, I have known for a long time that I really enjoy Buffalo. It's not a problem for me that Zappa built the show around some of his best recent songs, and many of them hadn't even been released at the time. Buffalo is a great warts and all collection of stuff that could or would show up in all the 1981 albums, TTR, YAWYI and SUNPYG. Above all, I think of Buffalo as the return of the son of certified guitar insanity! I saw Zappa for the first time on the spring 80 tour and was blown away. But as great as his soloing was then, the memory of the stripped down Logeman band hadn't prepared me for the onslaught of the expanded fall 80 line-up with Harris, Vai and Colaiuta. A combination of a rock band and an army, for sure!

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Sorry my dear learned friend - that was not my intention

Nay, that was not my intention

The thrust of the said thread was that I was at The Hammy-O but not the Buffy-O!

Nay, I was at The Hammy-O but not the Buffy-O!






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I love both venues shows. Hammersmith has Bozzio ripping through with an awesome Bozzio solo called Terry Firma in it. Terry's double bass and ripping tom fills are clean and cutting. As a drummer I love it.
Buffalo has Vinnie on it and I equally love it. You can't deny the version of Keep It Greasy at this show. Vinnie just owned that song.
Overall both albums are great to me and offer special explorations by Frank into social commentary that is awesome on I'm In You on Hammersmith and Real World on Buffalo. Sound wise, Hammersmith is cleaner but Buffalo is one for the ages.

Still waiting to get my ears on hearing Philly 76 and that is supposed to be great. Maybe I will find this OOP gem also along the way.

Anybody else wish they would release a Hammersmith '79 album (from a year after the album we're discussing) with Vinnie on drums? Of course there is a bunch of Franks's solos on Shut up and play your guitar that are from those jan or feb '79 shows there. Vinnie was/is such a freaking mutant - I would love to hear more live material from his short time in the band (and yeah, Buffalo sizzles!).

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Oh you'll give me your underpants
"I hope these aren't yours, buddy...
They're very nice, though..."

~FZ from The Blue Light

Man I will have to A/B test that, you say that HO is clearer than Buffalo?.

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I'm with ya. Vinnie is why I like Buffalo so much more than Hammer ... nothing against Terry but damn Frank and Vinnie make some sweet connections all over that show. I wish Hammer wasnt a bit off on the mix. I love drums but I dont want them in my face quite that much.

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There are a few good solos left over from Hammersmith 79, but a Road Tapes from March or April 79 might be better.

I'd be down with more complete shows featuring Vinnie.

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