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This past week, a musician friend of mine told me to check out YES (particularly Talk and Big Generator), so I'll likely be picking up some YES albums pretty soon. I'm quite sure that there are many YES fans on this forum with strong opinions on the matter, so let's hear 'em.

And in case you're wondering, no, I haven't gotten any Pink Floyd albums yet but I assure you that I will.


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Holy Crap, man. Get the lead out!

The first Yes album to get is probably either The Yes Album or Fragile. Close to the Edge is actually my favorite though, and I'm a big fan of the "Tales From Topographic Oceans" release, which has yet to get a decent review. Knowing you, you'd probably dig the underrated 1st album "Yes" as well. For newer stuff, be sure to check out "Magnification".

As far as the Trevor Rabin era stuff goes, have an open mind, but be ready for some heavy 80s production. The songs themselves are often quite good though.

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Jakeobs wrote:
This past week, a musician friend of mine told me to check out YES (particularly Talk and Big Generator).


NO. don't get those. they suck.

you have to get these, though:

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Just another word about Talk and Big Generator. They've gotten a lot of bad press, but they are NOT bad albums. I actually enjoy both of them quite a lot. BUT! They are NOT the albums you want to hear if you want to get to know what YES is about. Trust me on this. Save them for last.

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Die hard Yes fan here, and certainly, the big three (The Yes Album, Fragile, & Close To The Edge) are the place to start. You can accomplish pretty much all of that same material with Yessongs. I too am also a big fan of Tales From Topographic (at least disc 1) and I got into Yes and first saw them in '77 during the Going For The One tour, so that effort holds a place in my heart. I could never really get into Relayer though.

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Talk and Big Generator are complete trash. You should kick your friend in the nuts for suggesting those 2 turds over Relayer.

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Talk and Big Generator are complete trash. You should kick your friend in the nuts for suggesting those 2 turds over Relayer.


Those two particular projects deviate from traditional YES
as much as Bing Crosby and family without a morning cup of
Minute Maid Orange Juice.

Basically the projects are far too Trevor Rabin influenced and are the
TANG equivalent of YES. Not that Minute Maid is my choice for OJ for
even that is a bad Slow Speed Chase of Concentrate.

TALK is so over indulgent Trevor Rabin YES where basically no one else showed up .
It's as if Trevor was trying to make a Yes album all by himself and just had the members support it.
Each era of YES has projects tat stand out and that era is Yes Tang
without any Rocket Fuel.

Best review I ever herd for Talk was Shut Up.
I can appreciate what Trevor Rabin did but it just was not Yes.
It was YES TRON with TANG.

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Talk is probably my LEAST favorite and Big Generator my "next-to-least-favorite." I do like some cuts on Big Generator, but play it onec a year...Talk I haven't played in I don't know how many years....Most of the rest of theYes collection I listen to quite often,

I agree to begin the beginning, or at least with Fragile and Close To The Edge.

I would recommend getting all the studio (non live), stuff first, then some of the live stuff.

There is one possible exception to this, there are two double CD sets called "Keys to Ascention I and II" that have very good versions of all their "biggies." I'd still opt for the studio stuff first, starting in the early years, but if you want a quick and dirty sampeling of the band, those two double CD's are very good.

That's my HO.

Yes...one of the best fucken bands that ever was :)

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Yes...one of the best fucken bands that ever was :)




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feetlightup wrote:
Just another word about Talk and Big Generator. They've gotten a lot of bad press, but they are NOT bad albums. I actually enjoy both of them quite a lot. BUT! They are NOT the albums you want to hear if you want to get to know what YES is about. Trust me on this. Save them for last.


My sentiments exactly. Strange recommendations form your friend Jakeobs! I enjoy both albums, but they are not first listens in any way...

Get Close To The Edge or The Yes Album first IMO.


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Skip Yes entirely and go directly to Rick Wakeman's King Arthur album. It's a riot.


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I believe the reason why my friend may have suggested Talk and Big Generator first is because he grew up in the '80s (he's almost 36) and learned most of what he knows about playing music during that time. Needless to say, he has quite a soft spot for that particular decade for many different reasons to say the very least.


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THE YES ALBUM. Definitely. It was my first, and good one to draw you in by the short and seasoned curlies.

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The title track from "Time and a Word" is one of my favorite songs of all time. Such a wonderfully uplifting hippie song. Not too crazy about the rest of the album - though none of it is bad.

"Drama" deserves mention here as an oddball in the Yes discography - it was basically the precursor to Asia. But about half of the 6 songs on that album are great - the other 3 are pretty iffy.

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Lumpy Gravy wrote:
Jakeobs wrote:
This past week, a musician friend of mine told me to check out YES (particularly Talk and Big Generator).


NO. don't get those. they suck.

you have to get these, though:

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Agreed. Get those. The other ones ones he mentioned are not indicative of the music they are famous for.

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Jakeobs wrote:
This past week, a musician friend of mine told me to check out YES (particularly Talk and Big Generator), so I'll likely be picking up some YES albums pretty soon. I'm quite sure that there are many YES fans on this forum with strong opinions on the matter, so let's hear 'em.



For a beginner, The Yes Album is a great place to start.

After that, Fragile, Close To the Edge, Tales From Topographic Oceans, Relayer, Going For the One, Keystudio.

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Help, I'm a Rock wrote:
Lumpy Gravy wrote:
Jakeobs wrote:
This past week, a musician friend of mine told me to check out YES (particularly Talk and Big Generator).


NO. don't get those. they suck.

you have to get these, though:

Image Image Image


Agreed. Get those. The other ones ones he mentioned are not indicative of the music they are famous for.


I would call those three YES projects reflective
of YES at the hight of their Prog Rock material
from a fan point of view but overall in the entire
decade of the 1970s they not only sold more US concert tickets
than any other band but I think in selecting let's say
6 Projects from their beginning to end of that decade
would be not only more reflective of different YES ensembles
but that reflects a broader scope of their overall creativity than those 3
from a short period of creativity.

I have always liked everything they have done
but I have seen that band so many that their shows
at times have become quite a yawn.

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Did you hear something?

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Jakeobs wrote:
I believe the reason why my friend may have suggested Talk and Big Generator first is because he grew up in the '80s (he's almost 36) and learned most of what he knows about playing music during that time. Needless to say, he has quite a soft spot for that particular decade for many different reasons to say the very least.

Sounds like a blind spot. :wink: I like the song "Shoot high, aim low" but it's during that completely different sounding Rabin era.

I think a lot of Yes fans started out with Fragile because they were familiar with 'Roundabout' from the radio. That's a pretty good album to start with; it's got all the elements of the best Yes lineup happening.

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What else have you deprived yourself of ??? :wink:

I've only owned two jazz albums (Bitches Brew and A Love Supreme) and one reggae album (a Desmond Dekker best of) in my life as well. Never owned a big band album either.


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Jakeobs wrote:
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What else have you deprived yourself of ??? :wink:

I've only owned one reggae album


Bob Marley - Legend (A must have)
Check out some Jimmy Cliff too.

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they never got better after about 3 albums, maybe 2; they rode the popularity of those 1st 3 albums for the rest of their careers; marginally interesting on a rare occasion but boring for the most part

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I've only owned a very small handfull of classical albums (including the FZ ones) as well.

And for the record, I did NOT buy the Desmond Dekker best of because he died (I fucking HATE people who do that shit). I've been a fan of "Israelites" since I heard it at the end of the movie Drugstore Cowboy some 20 years ago.

By the way, besides the fact that it's YES's best selling album and thus probably their most commercial sounding, is there a reason why no one has mentioned 90125 yet?


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