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 Post subject: Electoral Vote 2020
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:54 pm 
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DNC Debate Lineup Is Set

The deadline to qualify for the first round of the Democratic debates arrived on Thursday, and—fortunately for DNC chair Tom Perez—exactly 20 people made the cut, which spares him from having to make and justify any tough decisions about whom to exclude. Here is the lucky group that scored an invite:

Sen. Michael Bennet (D-CO)
Joe Biden
Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ)
Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D-South Bend)
Julián Castro
Mayor Bill de Blasio (D-New York City)
John Delaney
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)
Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA)
John Hickenlooper
Gov. Jay Inslee (D-WA)
Sen. Amy Klobuchar (DFL-MN)
Beto O'Rourke
Rep. Tim Ryan (D-OH)
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA)
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)
Marianne Williamson
Andrew Yang

That leaves Gov. Steve Bullock (D-MT), Rep. Seth Moulton (D-MA), Mike Gravel, and Mayor Wayne Messam (D-Miramar) on the outside looking in. Of that quartet, the only one who is squawking about it is Bullock, who believes he actually did qualify, and is demanding to be let in. That's not going to do him any good; the DNC gets to make the decisions, and their decision is that he's out. He might be able to qualify for the next round of debates, and if so, then Perez will have to start making tough choices. Of course, Perez is hoping that Bullock drops out and decides to challenge Sen. Steve Daines (R-MT), a race he might be able to win.

The DNC has not yet announced which candidates will be scheduled for which night, nor what positions they will be given on the stage. In fact, it hasn't even said when those decisions will be made. The two debates are two weeks away, on June 26 and 27, so it's definitely sometime between now...and then.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/dnc-names-20-candidates-who-will-appear-stage-first-democratic-n1017316

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/13/steve-bullock-democrats-debate-1362900

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 Post subject: Re: Electoral Vote 2020
PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:58 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Electoral Vote 2020
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:50 am 
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The Lineups for the First Democratic Debates Are Set

DNC Chairman Tom Perez is bending over backwards while standing on his head in order to avoid a repeat of 2016, when many supporters of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) felt, with some cause, that the DNC had its thumb on the scale for Hillary Clinton. This cycle there will be 12 primary debates, and the rules for getting on stage were published months in advance. The final bid to make it fair was a decision to create two groups, based on polls—the one-percenters and the two-percenters-or-more—and then to split each group randomly over the two nights. Drawing such a bright, red line between, say, Sens. Cory Booker (D-NJ, a two-percenter) and Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY, a one-percenter) is total nonsense, since the margin of error in the polls is about 4%. Meanwhile, when you do things at random, you get random results. Here is the breakdown for the two nights:

First debate
Cory Booker
Julián Castro
Mayor Bill de Blasio (D-New York City)
John Delaney
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)
Gov. Jay Inslee (D-WA)
Sen. Amy Klobuchar (DFL-MN)
Beto O'Rourke
Rep. Tim Ryan (D-OH)
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)

Second debate
Sen. Michael Bennet (D-CO)
Joe Biden
Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D-South Bend)
Kirsten Gillibrand
Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA)
John Hickenlooper
Bernie Sanders
Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA)
Marianne Williamson
Andrew Yang

https://www.vox.com/2019/6/14/18678241/democratic-presidential-debate-2019-candidates-nights

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 Post subject: Re: Electoral Vote 2020
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Oregon Joins Popular Vote Movement
by Dirk VanderHart Follow OPB June 5, 2019 1:10 p.m. | Updated: June 6, 2019 6:56 a.m. | Salem, Ore.
https://www.opb.org/news/article/oregon-bill-popular-vote-presidential-elections/

Oregon is poised to join an agreement that could see its seven electoral votes handed to presidential candidates who win the popular vote nationally — regardless of who Oregonians choose.

In a widely expected outcome, the House on Wednesday voted 37-22 to approve Senate Bill 870, legislation that allows the state to sign on to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

Once the bill is signed by Gov. Kate Brown, Oregon will join 14 other states and the District of Columbia in pledging to send their electoral votes to whoever wins the popular vote in presidential elections. That agreement wouldn’t kick in until enough states sign on to tally at least 270 electoral votes, the minimum needed to win the presidency.

With Oregon joining up, the compact will include 196 electoral votes, according to the national group pushing the bill.

Wednesday’s vote was all but certain. While Oregon has failed seven times to pass a popular vote bill, many of those failures came because of gridlock in the Senate. The House had passed a bill to join the agreement in four separate sessions.

This year, Senate President Peter Courtney, D-Salem, changed course from previous sessions, allowing SB 870 to receive a vote on the Senate floor, where it passed 17-12. Courtney has held up the bill in the past because he believes voters should decide how Oregon’s electoral votes are awarded.

The bill inspired bitter disagreement between many Democrats and Republicans.

Democrats argue that deciding presidential elections by popular vote would take away the intense campaigning in a handful of battleground states, and force candidates to visit voters around the country. That means reliably blue Oregon could warrant attention for once, they say.

“The Republican presidential candidates write Oregon totally off … and Democratic candidates take Oregon for granted, so we are just relegated to being a spectator state,” said Rep. Alissa Keny-Guyer, D-Portland.

“It is finally possible that Oregon could finally become a battleground state,” noted Rep. Tiffiny Mitchell, D-Astoria, “because all of them will be.”

Proponents also argue that conservative Oregonians could be more likely to vote, if they know voting could influence a national election. Currently, Oregon Republicans have little hope of tilting the state toward a Republican presidential candidate.

“Turns out when people think their vote matters, they are more likely to vote,” said Rep. Julie Fahey, D-Eugene. “I believe that everyone’s vote should be equal no matter where you live.”

But Republicans have labeled the popular vote idea as a trap, and say Democrats are especially keen on pushing it because of the 2016 election, in which President Donald Trump lost the popular vote by 2.8 million votes.

“I view this as a knee-jerk reaction of the people’s current view of who occupies the White House,” said Rep. Cheri Helt, R-Bend, who made clear she did not vote for Trump.

Rep. Mike McLane, R-Powell Butte, said the system would place too much power in cities, where liberal voters are concentrated.

“To suggest that, in the absence of the electoral college, a national popular vote is not completely biased to urban centers is just unfathomable in my mind,” McLane said. “Of course it is, and of course that’s the game plan here.”

McLane further suggested that doing away with the electoral college could jeopardize the country’s tradition of peacefully transitioning power between presidential administrations.

Another Republican, Rep. Bill Post of Keizer, said he also opposed the popular vote compact — but that he had little worry it would come to pass. Republican-led states would need to sign on in order for the agreement to hit 270 electoral votes, he said.

“It has to hit the red states eventually, and the red states will just say ‘no,’” Post said.

Some also said the national popular vote could diminish the influence of small states like Oregon — a key reason Nevada’s Democratic governor recently vetoed a similar bill.

Gov. Kate Brown has supported the national popular vote concept for at least a decade, and is expected to sign the bill, meaning its role as a mainstay in legislative sessions has come to an end.

“I always enjoy the national popular vote debate,” House Speaker Tina Kotek said Wednesday, nodding to the bill’s longtime presence in the Capitol. “I do.”

Editor’s note: This story has been updated to reflect the Senate Bill 870 vote tally.


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 Post subject: Re: Electoral Vote 2020
PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:22 pm 
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And Then There Were Two...Dozen

Former representative and vice admiral, Joe Sestak, has grown the field of "serious" Democratic contenders to 24.

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Debate Day Is Here

Today's lineup consists of Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) and nine much lesser known candidates, all of whom need to break through.

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First debate
Cory Booker
Julián Castro
Mayor Bill de Blasio (D-New York City)
John Delaney
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)
Gov. Jay Inslee (D-WA)
Sen. Amy Klobuchar (DFL-MN)
Beto O'Rourke
Rep. Tim Ryan (D-OH)
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)


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 Post subject: Re: Electoral Vote 2020
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And Then There Were Two...Dozen

Former representative and vice admiral, Joe Sestak, has grown the field of "serious" Democratic contenders to 24.
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The Democrats Finally Debate

As you may have heard, 10 of the 20-plus Democrats who are running for president were in Miami, Florida to debate last night. This was the first of at least 14 candidates' debates (maybe more, depending on how many rounds after round two are split across two nights).

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As expected, Biden received plenty of flak in last night's debate.

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Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D-South Bend) showed off his Spanish-language skills, but in a considerably more natural fashion than Beto O'Rourke or Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) on Wednesday.

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Tom Steyer Will Enter the Democratic Presidential Race . . .

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