Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
Hey, you are talking to Downer. One of the most appropriate names in the forum (most of the time).
Gee, thanks. I thought I was instigating a more in depth discussion on your thread. You didn't even respond to my points. And I quoted Hertz. A great quote. He's right, don't you think?
cory1984 wrote:
I don't really see how you can criticize how certain art or sounds feel or influence a person. Have you ever heard of perspective? We all have one, and they're all different.
That was one of my points. Our brains are all different. Our ears are all different. I hardly criticized you. I was attempting to share something with you.
cory1984 wrote:
Does you not grasping it make it impossible?
Of course not. However, you have not really helped me to grasp it.
penguini wrote:
It's hard to tell what this would sound like unless you recorded the piece twice ...once all tuned to 440 and once tuned to 432....but I'd bet it would change the tone of everything anyway. So "Downer" either has no sense of pitch ,because if you listen to the music of Harry Partch and his "just intonation" music - almost everyone can tell micro-tones apart,...or he's just being the "devil's advocate".
I'd love to hear this two version trial on some piece of music ..for real. Anyone have a band "up" for it?
Yeah, I have no sense of pitch. That's why I jumped into this discussion.
"Anyone" can hear the difference if you start at 440 and, while still playing, tune to 432. However, I doubt most people could tell the difference using only their ears if you started in 432 and stayed there. Not without trying to play along or sing along in standard tuning. I'm tempted to put you to the test but it's easy to cheat. You'd have to know using only your ears. No playing along or checking the tuning with outside equipment.
You're wrong to say that anyone can tell microtones apart when listening to a song which remains in the same tuning all the way through. Most folks, using only their ears, would not be able to tell if it's in 440 or 432. I'd be pleasantly surprised if you could do it 4 out of 5 times.
It's a bit difficult for humans to be in harmony with "the universe" considering all of the distractions, and the fact that most of us are being conditioned to ignore our instincts. Let's not fool ourselves.
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