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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:31 pm 
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Just curious, is this a phpbb upgrade or a switch to new forum software?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:48 pm 
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Mikey wrote:
do you think FZ would support people who think that posting on a forum gives them license to be an asshole?


What would FZ think about a person who continually uses the FZ forum as a platform to sell their political party? More specifically, what would FZ think of a person who uses this forum to promote the likes of Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton?

My comments are not coming from a political place, they're coming from a human place. I'm not voting for Trump, Clinton, or any other fatty, greasy, completely-lacking-in-nutrition choice on the Presidential menu. I only vote when it matters.

And how did FZ feel about blatant ass kissers? (high five!)

And what of those who constantly, purposely fuel others anger? Consciously hoping to incite violent reactions and then "acting" offended when they get the reaction they wanted?

Apparently Punknayowned never reads Spacebrother's posts if he's laying all the blame on jaypfunk.

I only hope all of the political advertisements being rammed down our throats on a daily basis are considered "bullying" if/when you start banning/blaming people.

Note: if folks like SB and JayP are personal friends of the administrator I will happily ban myself permanently, immediately.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:01 pm 
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I only hope all of the political advertisements being rammed down our throats on a daily basis are considered "bullying" if/when you start banning/blaming people.



No dummy. That would be the definition of censorship. Plus is it not advertisements. No one is being paid for their fucking opinion. Dope.


Read it again you loud mouthed, grease ball. I said IF he starts banning. I don't want censorship or mods, but if they start banning I hope it's fair. Jesus fuck.

And fuck yer political advertisements, errand boy.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:39 pm 
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downer mydnyte wrote:
And what of those who constantly, purposely fuel others anger? Consciously hoping to incite violent reactions and then "acting" offended when they get the reaction they wanted?

Now, now. Stop picking on Mij.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:51 pm 
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just plain doug wrote:
downer mydnyte wrote:
And what of those who constantly, purposely fuel others anger? Consciously hoping to incite violent reactions and then "acting" offended when they get the reaction they wanted?

Now, now. Stop picking on Mij.

I knew the more perceptive among us would know who I was referring to.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 6:04 pm 
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My skin has thickened considerably since I began posting here. I wrote something yesterday that polydigm thought was the stupidest thing ever. It takes all kinds, and that's what you get when you let nature take it's course. Australians don't get me and they are rude about it. I find it hilarious. Other rude people, not so much.

But, who in their right minds would take any of this stuff personally? I would personally take it as a point of pride if H. Rap Brown called me a white-ass cracker-ass cracker as I stood on a streetcorner in Berkeley waiting for a crosswalk light. Because that's what I am.

Or is.

Labels applied to my forum entity by other forum entities are meaningless. I personally hate the entire human race, so what would I care what anyone thinks? You're all a bunch of dumbfuckers beneath contempt. I can say this because I have had lots of interactions with many of you. I can also say this because this forum is not moderated.

It should be like a bar. Some guy gets mouthy and he gets thrown out, but he's allowed back in next week.

Or like a hockey game...a penalty box...can the software do that?

Anyway, if we ban the idiots, it will get very boring very quickly for most of you. Who gets the most attention around here? The smart ones?

Or the smart-ass ones?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 6:35 pm 
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Mikey wrote:
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When the new forum is launched, we'll be happy to moderate it, seeing as that's what most people secretly want anyway.


Good Christ, please don't. FZ will be rolling in his grave if that happens...

So you say, but do you think FZ would support people who think that posting on a forum gives them license to be an asshole?

This forum has been unmoderated and essentially left alone as a natural ecosystem for many years. We installed software so you can ignore users, as an alternative to banning people. Even so, a significant number of you (including people posting in this very thread) send me private messages asking me to ban others because you feel as if you're being bullied or threatened, or you simply don't like what they are saying.

Moderation is not synonymous with censorship.


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So now you're attempting to circumlocute censorship by altering the semantic contours of particular dialogue?! Wonderful! Did I say FZ will be rolling in his grave? Fuck that shit, FZ will be spinning at warp speed in his grave!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 6:48 pm 
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calvin2hikers wrote:
Just curious, is this a phpbb upgrade or a switch to new forum software?

exploring both options.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:07 pm 
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Cool.

Number One: Please wipe out anything I have ever posted.

Number Two: Keep the onslaught of (undesirable) political cartoon thievery limited to a single thread, if at all. Pollution. Number One reason why I avoid this space.

Number Three: Leave jayp alone. He operates in the zone of being obviously offensive and I appreciate it. Whereas other mother-fuckers have no idea they are being offensive. That's the beauty of it.

Number Four: There is only ONE racist on this forum (that I have discerned) but he is protected. Why?
And it ain't #3.

Be careful about who is who and what is what.

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calvin2hikers wrote:
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You have to contact Mikey if you want your email address changed.
Because he doesn't have very many posts, right? I changed mine with no problem.
I don't know what the rules are, but if his email field isn't editable, he'll have to contact Mikey. Mine is, I changed my email not that long ago. I guess I meant to say "You'll have to ... ".

You must be very bored.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:20 am 
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My apologies, I had momentarily thought we were in the Brexit factor thread where my comment would have been relevant to the discussion, so I've moved it there. I'll confine myself to the issue of the forum itself.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:18 am 
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Is it possible for me to export the whole forum to any popular format? Or can you save it whole before pressing the button, Mikey? I'd love to have a copy if possible sometime in the future, in case it all falls apart, if that's cool...

Also if you can implement a RSS feed in the upcoming version, that would be pretty nifty...

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XMB can make a complete copy of an XMB forum, maybe PHPBB has such a feature... if it doesn't we could all chip in and save sections we don't want to lose...

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:25 am 
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It is fairly hilarious, in a pathetic way, that even this Mikey thread has been destroyed by the typical carping.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:21 pm 
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Mikey wrote:
... but do you think FZ would support people who think that posting on a forum gives them license to be an asshole? ...

Very easy to answer this question: Yes he would. He didn't like assholes but he didn't like pojama people either. By the way: who decides if a person is an asshole? What is the problem with assholes (everybody has one ;-))?
Why should this last remaining island of free expression in the www became as lame and boring as the rest of it? Is people having no balls to stand yapfunks comments a serious enough reason to change this absoluteley well working forum? You say "most people" want a moderated forum. How did u find out?

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ursinator wrote:
Mikey wrote:
... but do you think FZ would support people who think that posting on a forum gives them license to be an asshole? ...

Very easy to answer this question: Yes he would. He didn't like assholes but he didn't like pojama people either. By the way: who decides if a person is an asshole? What is the problem with assholes (everybody has one ;-))?
Why should this last remaining island of free expression in the www became as lame and boring as the rest of it? Is people having no balls to stand yapfunks comments a serious enough reason to change this absoluteley well working forum? You say "most people" want a moderated forum. How did u find out?


You skipped a chapter on the first page. I know it's hard to pay attention with all that other bullshit. :wink:

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It's amazing that everyone shrieks "No moderation!" any time we have stepped in to do so, yet my inbox is full of private messages from many of the very same people asking me to ban other people because they don't like what they're posting....

When the new forum is launched, we'll be happy to moderate it, seeing as that's what most people secretly want anyway.


None of those messages are from me.

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I wrote something yesterday that polydigm thought was the stupidest thing ever. It takes all kinds, and that's what you get when you let nature take it's course. Australians don't get me and they are rude about it. I find it hilarious. Other rude people, not so much.

I thought most people here were talking about a free exchange of views without censorship. Mr Barker/Rope, you obviously haven't thought this through. You come across like you're well behaved and it's just everyone else that's rude. You implied something negative about the people on the opposite side of a vote - the side I was on. Why wouldn't I find that offensive? You being concerned about people being rude is hilarious when you consider how you often carry on.

The point that's being discussed here I think is the difference between freedom of speech and the freedom to be an asshole. Jaypfunk has at times posted some of the most perverse pictures imaginable in response to people taking offence at his views. You have to ask yourself what kind of person takes pleasure in that stuff. I'm not sure what going out of your way to upset people has to do with freedom of speech. You can split hairs about what the word asshole really means, but that's just evading the issue.

And getting upset about the discussion of politics? People keep saying things like "FZ wouldn't like this, FZ wouldn't like that". What percentage of his lyric output and interview discussion was about politics? A pretty large one would be a reasonable guess. I don't think the issue is politics as such. For example, is the Brexit thing a current issue that matters or makes any difference? Of course it is, everywhere I go at the moment, people are talking about it. But on this forum, when political discussion degenerates into torrents of abuse, that's just juvenile. If I'm sure of anything, I'm sure that FZ would not have participated in that, I'm pretty sure he would have expressed his opinion and then moved on.

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...are we goin' on cassette, or are we stayin' on LP?

Reel to reel. A loop.

Poly, I don't mind a discussion about "politics". I think daily advertisements for the Republican Party and the Democratic Party are a different story. It's not a discussion. It's a commercial.

And all of those cheap editorial cartoons plastered all over the forum are like someone shitting in the swimming pool. Or, more to the point, someone throwing someone else's turds into the pool. It's not even his own excrement.

The only reason I used the expression "would Zappa..." is because that was how Mikey approached it.


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Mikey

I have been on this forum for years and I just stop reading certain threads if they piss me off. I hope your moderation is very limited.

I never ignore people, and this is the only forum I read.

I admire several forum members (poly comes to mind) who express themselves in a sophisticated manner, I miss Kapt Kirk and I hope that some folks return who have gone missing.

Finally, I never read the threads which look political anymore.

I hope the forum continues...

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It is fairly hilarious, in a pathetic way, that even this Mikey thread has been destroyed by the typical carping.


I say flush this feces parade down the shithole and all of you with it!!


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vivalapsych wrote:
brainpang wrote:
It is fairly hilarious, in a pathetic way, that even this Mikey thread has been destroyed by the typical carping.


I say flush this feces parade down the shithole and all of you with it!!


ouch! thats below the beltway


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vivalapsych wrote:
brainpang wrote:
It is fairly hilarious, in a pathetic way, that even this Mikey thread has been destroyed by the typical carping.


I say flush this feces parade down the shithole and all of you with it!!


You're allowed 4 pot plants for personal consumption now in DC. You should take advantage of that law. It might relieve some of that angst.

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I think it's great that this forum will be starting over fresh. Sorry to tell you this, but overall this forum is largely a big dumpsite for the bad mental health of a few who seem to live their entire lives in here.


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