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MHO...

If someone thinks the Elite owned media AND the Democratic party are going to give the nod to someone good for the people, (rather than someone good for the elite), they haven't been paying attention.

If Bernie were any good, the media and DNC would dump him just like they dumped Kucinich.

You can't play the rich man's game, and win.

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hahaha

Evil redeeming evil.

Lol yeah, it's recursive...evil can only breed evil, and good can only breed good.

Hmmmm evil can destroy good, and good can destroy evil.

What was that MLK said about violence is a descending spiral, begetting that which it seeks to destroy,


More bombs, that's the answer!

Bomb that evil right out of existence...

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Bernie's war votes are troubling. His concentration on the fact that real wages have not increased since the 1970s has made income inequality a subject that is now part of the debate, that's a good thing.

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When you read between the lines, people who are bashing Israel and paranoia driven conspiracy theories regarding the media, such as Baddy does, makes me wonder if he really has a veiled Right Wing agenda disguised behind what appears to be a rhetorical pseudo-peace meme fest.


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When you read between the lines, people who are bashing Israel and paranoia driven conspiracy theories regarding the media, such as Baddy does, makes me wonder if he really has a veiled Right Wing agenda disguised behind what appears to be a rhetorical pseudo-peace meme fest.


I suggest you watch some of the videos on Live Leak of Israeli landgrabbers stoning Palestinian children as they're walking to school; in Palestinian land. I seen a 6 year old girl have her eye knocked out by a rock that was thrown by a screaming Jewish mother who had settled in their land.

Or maybe you should watch the videos of Palestinian kids, being shot by Israeli police for playing in the street. Palestinian families have to build prisons around their houses so they cannot be attacked.

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To many on the Left, electing Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders seems ideal. He promises a “Political Revolution” of equality, restoration, and endless amounts of free stuff. But does Bernie Sanders have the ability to follow through with all that he promises? And if he does, are his ideas really what’s best for America? Let’s take a further look into Bernie’s blanket statements.

1) Free is not always better. Bernie Sanders is all about free stuff. He promises free college, non-discriminatory welfare, and free medical care. If the government provides unlimited amounts of free goods and services, the funding has to come from somewhere. So where will all of that money come from? You guessed it, our taxes. Free stuff doesn’t fall from the sky. When the country is already in $18 trillion of debt, there has to be a trade off.

2) Financial success will result in punishment. According to his website Bernie Sanders vows to “lift the cap on taxable income above $250,000.” Senator Sanders believes that more tax revenue will be gained by increasing taxes on the wealthy. The reality is that the more taxes are raised on higher earners and corporations, the more they will move their personal and corporate income out of the country. The tax burden will then shift to the middle class in order to fund the endless programs envisioned by the Left. Shouldn’t we instead be creating a tax structure and robust economy that will attract and retain not only U.S. but foreign investment?

3) Money does’t grow on trees. If Sanders is elected president, he promises to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour. What is wrong with that? Minimum wage jobs are meant for those entering the workforce. These jobs are not meant to be a career or profession. As Americans, we should be constantly striving for progress. As the minimum wage increases, prices of goods and services will be forced to go up. This creates an endless cycle of earning more and spending more. Are you sensing a trend here? Instead of raising the minimum wage on entry level jobs, we should create a robust economy that will foster career level positions with higher wages and opportunity.


A libertarian publication that is about as credible as Tom & Jerry doesn't really count for shit Jaypeespunked.

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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/28/donald-trump-suffers-his-largest-drop-in-polls-after-week-of-controversy?CMP=fb_us

Donald Trump’s support among Republicans has dropped 12 points in less than a week, marking the presidential hopeful’s biggest decline since he started leading the field in July, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll.

Trump is still in the lead, with 31% of people surveyed naming him as their preferred candidate in a rolling poll over five days that ended on 27 November. However, that number was down from a peak of 43% on 22 November.

The sharp drop follows criticism of Trump for comments he made in the aftermath of the Paris attacks on 13 November in which 130 people died.

Following the attacks, Trump told an NBC News reporter that he would support a plan requiring all Muslims within the United States to be registered to a special database, which his critics likened to the mandatory registration of Jews in Nazi Germany.

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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/23/donald-trump-accused-of-hate-campaign-after-claiming-thousands-cheered-on-911

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has been accused of running a hate campaign after he claimed to have seen “thousands” of people cheering the 9/11 attacks from New Jersey.

Trump first told the story on Saturday at a rally in Alabama, as he stressed the need for greater surveillance, including monitoring certain mosques, in the wake of the Paris attacks.

“I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down. And I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering,” Trump said.

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I recall seeing footage of Muslims cheering after the attacks, but they were in places like Iran and Iraq.

There were a few Israelis arrested for dancing and celebrating and videotaping the attack...

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICL ... aelis.html

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jaypfunk wrote:
3 Reasons Why You Should Get Ready to “Feel The Bern” IN YOUR WALLET!!

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To many on the Left, electing Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders seems ideal. He promises a “Political Revolution” of equality, restoration, and endless amounts of free stuff. But does Bernie Sanders have the ability to follow through with all that he promises? And if he does, are his ideas really what’s best for America? Let’s take a further look into Bernie’s blanket statements.

1) Free is not always better. Bernie Sanders is all about free stuff. He promises free college, non-discriminatory welfare, and free medical care. If the government provides unlimited amounts of free goods and services, the funding has to come from somewhere. So where will all of that money come from? You guessed it, our taxes. Free stuff doesn’t fall from the sky. When the country is already in $18 trillion of debt, there has to be a trade off.

2) Financial success will result in punishment. According to his website Bernie Sanders vows to “lift the cap on taxable income above $250,000.” Senator Sanders believes that more tax revenue will be gained by increasing taxes on the wealthy. The reality is that the more taxes are raised on higher earners and corporations, the more they will move their personal and corporate income out of the country. The tax burden will then shift to the middle class in order to fund the endless programs envisioned by the Left. Shouldn’t we instead be creating a tax structure and robust economy that will attract and retain not only U.S. but foreign investment?

3) Money does’t grow on trees. If Sanders is elected president, he promises to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour. What is wrong with that? Minimum wage jobs are meant for those entering the workforce. These jobs are not meant to be a career or profession. As Americans, we should be constantly striving for progress. As the minimum wage increases, prices of goods and services will be forced to go up. This creates an endless cycle of earning more and spending more. Are you sensing a trend here? Instead of raising the minimum wage on entry level jobs, we should create a robust economy that will foster career level positions with higher wages and opportunity.


A libertarian publication that is about as credible as Tom & Jerry doesn't really count for shit Jaypeespunked.


Dude, if Bernie Sanders were elected President Of The United States Of America, since he wants to raise the minimum wage to $15 p/h (Walmart can't even afford an average wage of $15 p/h!) and tax many businesses over 90%, that would UTTERLY DESTROY the private sector, especially since it's already on its last legs.

The above article is correct. STOP being so fucking stupid.

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Nice to see ya TCS.

We lost a friend a couple of weeks ago. 44, he left behind his wife and 4 girls, the silent killer got him.

She's looking at holding things together and attempting to hold the house, the familiar roof over the kids head, cuz they need stability extra now. She doesn't know if it can be done.


And I think about how most Americans are going along, many unhappily, but going along with the choices they are being given by the elitist media...it seems nothing's changed and it's going to be one of these bombers again for sure, because all the leading Dems, and all the leading R's are bombers for sure.

And I wonder, I really wonder how so many can feel sincere loss for Paris, but no loss for the many many times more casualties inflicted as a result of their votes.

Palestinians, at arguably the heart of the whole mess, brushed aside, while billions of our taxpayers dollars are voted to be taken away from needed programs at home in the US each year, and given to Israel to buy more weapons (from US manufacturers), to support a 700:1 kill ratio on Palestinians.

Yes, Israeli deaths hurt just as much, each one leaves family members behind, just like Derek who left us last week.


Why is it deaths on one side are all that's considered, and deaths we vote for are never mentioned, even resisted and ignored if mentioned. Paris is felt by so many Americans, but they feel not the multitudes more, seemingly they don't matter, not one iota...

Why do so many vote for bombers, never stopping give a thought to Palestinians or Afghans, or Syrians, or Yemenis, or Kosovars, or Libyans, or Pakistanis, or Somolians, or Chad[ians?], or Lebanese, and on and on...

Why don't people refuse to vote for bombers? Just shut him down, "nope, he's a bomber."

We'd get a better class of candidates if we eliminated bombers.

So why do they go along so?

Do I have it right? Is that the situation? If yes, anyone care to fathom a guess why?

My only guess is yes, we are that controlled by the news. It generates the public consensus, what we talk about and more importantly, don't talk about.

That's my only guess.

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TheCentralScrutinizer wrote:
jaypfunk wrote:
3 Reasons Why You Should Get Ready to “Feel The Bern” IN YOUR WALLET!!

http://hypeline.org/3-reasons-why-you-s ... ur-wallet/

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To many on the Left, electing Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders seems ideal. He promises a “Political Revolution” of equality, restoration, and endless amounts of free stuff. But does Bernie Sanders have the ability to follow through with all that he promises? And if he does, are his ideas really what’s best for America? Let’s take a further look into Bernie’s blanket statements.

1) Free is not always better. Bernie Sanders is all about free stuff. He promises free college, non-discriminatory welfare, and free medical care. If the government provides unlimited amounts of free goods and services, the funding has to come from somewhere. So where will all of that money come from? You guessed it, our taxes. Free stuff doesn’t fall from the sky. When the country is already in $18 trillion of debt, there has to be a trade off.

2) Financial success will result in punishment. According to his website Bernie Sanders vows to “lift the cap on taxable income above $250,000.” Senator Sanders believes that more tax revenue will be gained by increasing taxes on the wealthy. The reality is that the more taxes are raised on higher earners and corporations, the more they will move their personal and corporate income out of the country. The tax burden will then shift to the middle class in order to fund the endless programs envisioned by the Left. Shouldn’t we instead be creating a tax structure and robust economy that will attract and retain not only U.S. but foreign investment?

3) Money does’t grow on trees. If Sanders is elected president, he promises to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour. What is wrong with that? Minimum wage jobs are meant for those entering the workforce. These jobs are not meant to be a career or profession. As Americans, we should be constantly striving for progress. As the minimum wage increases, prices of goods and services will be forced to go up. This creates an endless cycle of earning more and spending more. Are you sensing a trend here? Instead of raising the minimum wage on entry level jobs, we should create a robust economy that will foster career level positions with higher wages and opportunity.


A libertarian publication that is about as credible as Tom & Jerry doesn't really count for shit Jaypeespunked.


Dude, if Bernie Sanders were elected President Of The United States Of America, since he wants to raise the minimum wage to $15 p/h (Walmart can't even afford an average wage of $15 p/h!) and tax many businesses over 90%, that would UTTERLY DESTROY the private sector, especially since it's already on its last legs.

The above article is correct. STOP being so fucking stupid.



I have an honours degree in politics so I don't need lessons on politics, I'm now doing a Master of Science degree on climate change and I've been funded to study it by a private bank, so stupidity is one thing I do lack in abundance. Sorry to mention that, as I don't like blowing my own trumpet.

The fact is, neoliberal economics don't work, they've never worked and there is no such thing as a trickle down economy; it's simply a term invented to usher in the era of austerity we're now going through.

The minimum wage in the UK just now is about £7.95 which is around 11-12 US dollars. If America is the richest country in the world and Britain the 4th richest, how come Britain can pay more of a minimum wage? By the way, our minimum wage is going up to £9 per hour in 2018 and right now, anyone who earns below £9,000 a year doesn't have to pay tax on their earnings. So if poorer countries can do it then the USA surely can, it's simply about how evenly you would like the nation's wealth distributed.

Do you like the fact a handful of powerful white men own almost all the wealth in the USA?

My honours dissertation was on neoliberalism and globalisation. A huge chunk of it was to do with the decline of egalitarian principles, so I know what I'm talking about whether you agree or not.

A person can only understand a situation to their own level of perception, they have an inability to see beyond that and this is quite simply the problem you have.

I also use academic journals to get my information, not right wing websites.

With regards to the capitalist economy in the USA being on its last legs, the reason for this is that they believe capitalism works itself. This is an easily checkable fact for you - the most wealthy period in modern history where almost everyone had a job was the era from 1950 to 1973 and was known as the golden era of economics. This was a time when governments spent big on infrastructure and invested in jobs so that people could work, it was Keynesian economics and it was introduced because they knew that it was the laissez-faire liberalism of the 19th century which led to the first world war. The unfettered wealth of the few, left the masses in poverty and we ended up with two world wars as a result.

This is the system you are saying will fix America and you sir, are an idiot for saying so. Do you realise, this is the fascist theocracy Zappa warned about?

So, in your own words, stop being so fucking stupid.

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you left out many reasons the US economy works, like 58% of all people working work for SMALL business, more than 5 people own 1% of the wealth, and the large corporations are what individual retirement accounts are invested in. If we can get the social engineering of the obama admin out, then lower the corporate tax rate to be competitive with country's like Ireland, then our economy will really take off . This is all capitalism.

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Excellent read there, Scrut.

I ain't got no fancy learning but I test well.

The period you speak of, generally, 1947 to 1971 is also known as the "golden quarter". Technology advanced significantly during this period, and a lot of what we have going on today is derived from products and concepts created during this period. Some say this is hooey designed to help the "greatest generation" pat itself on the back, but many take it seriously, and this guy says that in effect, technology is ceased to advance since 1971...

https://aeon.co/essays/has-progress-in- ... -to-a-halt

You are absolutely correct, this is Zappa's Christian dystopia. This notion is left out of the mass debate completely, under the ruse that people's religions do not matter, so long as they adhere to one of the major labels. The truth is that a lot of folks take their religions pretty seriously, in an irrational act of "faith". This is why it is so easy to get some dumb Americans to panic over Muslims coming into "their" territory. If a certain number of Muslims are also taking their religions on faith, then there will be conflict, because it's tough for two separate "truths" to exist on the local level.

...and other religions fuck the bitch while the larger dogs are fighting over her.

Some of the debaters here have a hard time seeing the world from another perspective. Try seeing from the point of view of a Jesus freak with his mind messed up. That's American public opinion, and you can say that's mostly in flyover land but you know there's a Christian church on every street corner in this country throughout. People really believe in that shit. Atheists are never elected.

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My main problem with any more refugees at this time is the feds taking my tax dollars and giving them to refugees. The country is broke, very easy to understand. When you are broke you stop spend ing money.

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Dude, if Bernie Sanders were elected President Of The United States Of America, since he wants to raise the minimum wage to $15 p/h (Walmart can't even afford an average wage of $15 p/h!) and tax many businesses over 90%, that would UTTERLY DESTROY the private sector, especially since it's already on its last legs.

The above article is correct. STOP being so fucking stupid.



I have an honours degree in politics so I don't need lessons on politics...


Yes, you do. Especially since most academic study nowadays is heavily left-wing bias.

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The minimum wage in the UK just now is about £7.95 which is around 11-12 US dollars. If America is the richest country in the world and Britain the 4th richest, how come Britain can pay more of a minimum wage? By the way, our minimum wage is going up to £9 per hour in 2018 and right now, anyone who earns below £9,000 a year doesn't have to pay tax on their earnings. So if poorer countries can do it then the USA surely can, it's simply about how evenly you would like the nation's wealth distributed.


And that's one of the many reasons why the UK and most of Europe are FAR worse off than North America is right now, genius.

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Do you like the fact a handful of powerful white men own almost all the wealth in the USA?


Of course not. My politics are primarily Libertarian and the belief in free-er markets - which would diminish the top 1%'s profit margins since there would be more competition, not increase them. You don't even need to get into the economics of it, since basic arithmetic proves that.

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My honours dissertation was on neoliberalism and globalisation. A huge chunk of it was to do with the decline of egalitarian principles, so I know what I'm talking about whether you agree or not.


Unfortunately, you do NOT.

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A person can only understand a situation to their own level of perception, they have an inability to see beyond that and this is quite simply the problem you have.

I also use academic journals to get my information, not right wing websites.


You mean you use left-wing bias journals to get your information.

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With regards to the capitalist economy in the USA being on its last legs, the reason for this is that they believe capitalism works itself. This is an easily checkable fact for you - the most wealthy period in modern history where almost everyone had a job was the era from 1950 to 1973 and was known as the golden era of economics. This was a time when governments spent big on infrastructure and invested in jobs so that people could work, it was Keynesian economics and it was introduced because they knew that it was the laissez-faire liberalism of the 19th century which led to the first world war. The unfettered wealth of the few, left the masses in poverty and we ended up with two world wars as a result.

This is the system you are saying will fix America and you sir, are an idiot for saying so. Do you realise, this is the fascist theocracy Zappa warned about?


Bullshit.

Dude, first of all, a laissez-faire economy has technically NEVER existed. Even a mostly Libertarian-minded person like myself would even agree there would have to be SOME regulatory activity economically. And secondly, there are MORE left-wing policies (over-regulations, taxations, rules, red tape, etc.) in the system than EVER. So how could what you're saying be true?! It is in fact Keynesianism itself that is partly responsible (as well as the Federal Reserve, the top 1% bankers & left-wing bailout policies, etc.) for the economic meltdown of the past several years. Don't believe me? Look at what it did to the Zimbabwean, Greek, Spanish & Cyprus currencies. And the USD is probably next. You simply cannot over-borrow, over-spend, over-print and go into MASSIVE debt without their being SEVERE economic issues. Common sense tells us that.

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So, in your own words, stop being so fucking stupid.


You've got a LOT to learn, junior.

Lastly, apart from De Beers Diamond Company, ALL monopolies that have occurred throughout world history, have been through over-regulatory activities, taxations, rules, red tape, etc. In other words, it's the Government that is HELPING the top 1% gain control and to create a larger wealth divide than would otherwise be, by allowing the top 1% to hire lobbyists to write regulations, in order to push out other competitors, and in turn that makes the top 1%'s pie LARGER. THAT is how they're doing it. Wake up!

And Frank Zappa would agree.

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You didn't.

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I see that through your last post mng that you still ignore the homeless as well as any grip on reality.

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