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The Hitler photo is doctored. (Do not take this as a defense of Donald Trump, please.)


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Thanks, I should have know better.... My bad.

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Despite Donald Trump's being the least Christian president since Thomas Jefferson (who was a deist), evangelical voters still love him. He doesn't go to church, never turns the other cheek, and does not adhere to any of Jesus' teachings. He also violates most of the Ten Commandments on a regular basis, especially #7, #9, #10—you know, the ones about adultery, lying, and coveting stuff. But despite all this, a new Pew Research Center poll taken last week and released yesterday shows that 72% of white evangelicals approve of the President, and 82% say they will vote for him. Talk about selling your soul for a couple of Supreme Court justices. He could probably take a Bible, drop it in the mud, stomp all over it, and then use it to bludgeon someone to death on Fifth Avenue and it would be fine with them. Trump absolutely needs to hang onto this group and so far nothing can shake their faith. Nothing. Here are the data.

Religious demographic - Will vote for Biden - Will vote for Trump - Result
White evangelicals ------------ 17% -------------- 82% -------- Trump +65
White Protestants, not evangelical 37% -------------- 61% -------- Trump +24
All Protestants ---------------- 40% -------------- 58% -------- Trump +18
White Catholics --------------- 42% -------------- 57% -------- Trump +15
All Christians ----------------- 43% -------------- 55% -------- Trump +12
All Catholics ------------------ 52% -------------- 47% --------- Biden +5
All respondents --------------- 54% -------------- 44% --------- Biden +10
Nothing in particular ----------- 68% -------------- 30% --------- Biden +38
All unaffiliated ---------------- 72% -------------- 25% --------- Biden +47
Atheist/agnostic -------------- 77% -------------- 18% --------- Biden +59
Black Protestants -------------- 88% --------------- 8% --------- Biden +80

It is noteworthy that 10% of white evangelicals who don't approve of the job Trump is doing will still vote for him. It is possible that these voters are motivated by the fact that Joe Biden is a Catholic and their hatred of Catholics is even greater than their disapproval of Trump, but that is just a guess. On the other hand, white Catholics on the whole prefer a man who sins on a daily basis and never ever asks forgiveness to an observant white Catholic like themselves. It's possible that some white Catholics hold Biden's (pro-choice) views on abortion against him. But maybe religion doesn't actually matter so much. It is very possible that people's politics comes first, and then they adapt their religious views to support their political views.

All is not completely rosy for Trump with white evangelicals, though. In April his approval rating with them was 78% and now it is 72%, so it dropped a little bit in 2 months. If it drops 3 points in each of the remaining months, he will have a problem. He probably isn't aware of this level of detail, but Brad Parscale sure is, and Parscale can craft television ads pointing out that Trump has appointed 200 conservative judges to try to keep them in the fold.

Finally, although the poll was really about the religious breakdown of the voters, the bottom line is that among all adults, Biden is ahead by 10 points, consistent with just about every other recent national poll.

Pew Research Poll :arrow: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/07/01/white-evangelical-approval-of-trump-slips-but-eight-in-ten-say-they-would-vote-for-him/


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Jerry Falwell Jr. to Take ‘Indefinite Leave of Absence’ From Liberty University

Following since-deleted racy photo, evangelical Christian university’s board of trustees announces president’s leave “effective immediately”

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/jerry-falwell-jr-indefinite-leave-of-absence-liberty-university-1041479/

By Daniel Kreps

Jerry Falwell Jr. will take an “indefinite leave of absence” from his role of president of Liberty University following the outcry from a racy photo he posted on social media.

The evangelical Christian university’s board of trustees announced Friday that it requested Falwell Jr. to take leave “to which he has agreed, effective immediately.” The board’s statement did not provide a reason for Falwell Jr.’s leave.

However, the leave of absence comes just days after Falwell Jr., “President Trump’s principal liaison to evangelicals,” posted a since-deleted photo on social media of himself with his pants unzipped and his belly exposed with his arm around a woman he later stated was his wife’s assistant. Falwell Jr. was holding a cup of dark liquid in photo; “I promise that’s just black water in my glass. It was a prop only.”

Jerry Falwell Jr. will take an “indefinite leave of absence” from his role of president of Liberty University following the outcry from a racy photo he posted on social media.

The evangelical Christian university’s board of trustees announced Friday that it requested Falwell Jr. to take leave “to which he has agreed, effective immediately.” The board’s statement did not provide a reason for Falwell Jr.’s leave.

However, the leave of absence comes just days after Falwell Jr., “President Trump’s principal liaison to evangelicals,” posted a since-deleted photo on social media of himself with his pants unzipped and his belly exposed with his arm around a woman he later stated was his wife’s assistant. Falwell Jr. was holding a cup of dark liquid in photo; “I promise that’s just black water in my glass. It was a prop only.”

The deleted photo served as the final straw for the board of trustees as well. Throughout his tenure as president of Liberty University — which began in 2007, following the death of his father Jerry Falwell Sr. — Falwell Jr. has frequently come under criticism, including for his unabashed support of Donald Trump, a candidate many Evangelicals initially disapproved of.

Falwell Jr. was also criticized for his mishandling of the coronavirus pandemic at the university and, more recently, for posting a photo on social media — in an attempt to mock Virginia governor Ralph Northam — of a face mask bearing a photo of a person in blackface and another in a Ku Klux Klan costume; numerous black Liberty University staffers and student athletes left the school following that incident in May, the Associated Press reported.

There is also the Falwells’ bizarre relationship with a 21-year-old Miami pool boy, a friendship that was exposed in 2018 as part of a lawsuit against the Falwells.

In a statement, Liberty’s board of trustees chairman Jerry Prevo said, In the 13 years that Jerry Falwell, Jr. has served as president of Liberty University, Liberty has experienced unprecedented success, not only academically and financially, with a world-class campus, but also spiritually… Unfortunately, with this success and the burdens of leading a large and growing organization comes substantial pressure. Today, my colleagues and I on the Liberty University Board of Trustees and Jerry mutually agreed that it would be good for him to take an indefinite leave of absence. This was a decision that was not made lightly, and which factored the interests and concerns of everyone in the LU community, including students, parents, alumni, faculty, staff, leaders of the Church, as well as the Falwell family.”

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