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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:32 pm 
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"Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do."

Rachell Maddow when the Trump Administration began separating children from their parents.

Note: They still cannot find over 600 children's parents

Note II: The Trump Administration put children to trial for illegally entering the country, the youngest were toddlers 14 months old, the Judges were confused when they would bring in a baby carrier in and set it on the table, but the Prosecutors insisted they continue since there was no rule against trying an infant.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:50 pm 
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The Democratic Party has been complicit in the assault on immigrants. Both parties fundamentally and actively support the inhumane immigration policies of the United States and are directly responsible for the present crisis.

At the October 22 second presidential debate between Trump and Biden, when the latter had attempted to assign the full guilt of the attack on immigrants to Trump, Trump threw back at him the question of “Who built the cages?” and cited a 2014 photo of separated children sleeping in cramped quarters in cages, circulated by Democrats in 2018 as proof to the viciousness of Trump's child separation policy. Biden deflected the question and went on to promise, less than two weeks before the election, that his administration would lay a path toward citizenship for the 11 million undocumented immigrants in this country.

This is a rotten and entirely cynical move by Biden and the Democrats, who under Obama built the cages used by Trump, deported over 3 million immigrants, separated children from families and caregivers, and implemented the Detention Bed Quota, a congressionally mandated quota that required ICE to maintain 34,000 detention beds at any given time, a blatant handout to the for-profit prison corporations. Just as Obama introduced Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) within two months of the 2012 election as a direct appeal to Latino voters, Biden has done the same, turning the plight of the desperate masses of immigrants and their families into a pawn to be played when necessary for votes.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:41 pm 
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/kids-in-cages-debate-trump-obama/2020/10/23/8ff96f3c-1532-11eb-82af-864652063d61_story.html

It's good to have the whole story. Sorry Coevad !
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:16 pm 
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The data in it is definitive why ask why but that's what works... :smoke:


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:02 pm 
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coevad wrote:
The Democratic Party has been complicit in the assault on immigrants. Both parties fundamentally and actively support the inhumane immigration policies of the United States and are directly responsible for the present crisis.

At the October 22 second presidential debate between Trump and Biden, when the latter had attempted to assign the full guilt of the attack on immigrants to Trump, Trump threw back at him the question of “Who built the cages?” and cited a 2014 photo of separated children sleeping in cramped quarters in cages, circulated by Democrats in 2018 as proof to the viciousness of Trump's child separation policy. Biden deflected the question and went on to promise, less than two weeks before the election, that his administration would lay a path toward citizenship for the 11 million undocumented immigrants in this country.

This is a rotten and entirely cynical move by Biden and the Democrats, who under Obama built the cages used by Trump, deported over 3 million immigrants, separated children from families and caregivers, and implemented the Detention Bed Quota, a congressionally mandated quota that required ICE to maintain 34,000 detention beds at any given time, a blatant handout to the for-profit prison corporations. Just as Obama introduced Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) within two months of the 2012 election as a direct appeal to Latino voters, Biden has done the same, turning the plight of the desperate masses of immigrants and their families into a pawn to be played when necessary for votes.



While you are right both Administration conducted harsh immigration policies, under the Obama Administration you could get at least temporary asylum status, not summarily denied a hearing that is guaranteed under the law.

The mistake in your statement is no children were separated under the Obama Administration from parents, all children that were housed in facility's were unaccompanied minors.

The Trump Administration uniquely and purposely separated thousands of children from their parents and made little to no effort to track anyone, they claimed it was not their intent time and time again to separate children but an unavoidable consequence, but newly released documents under the FOA show that that was the plan from day one and to use it as a deterrent.

Their inability at simple data gathering to track the children and parents has been called either intentional or criminally inept, they were so horrible at tracking these parents and their children that Public Entities (such as ACLU & others) had to be appointed by the court find the parents that were located.

This is the one difference between the Trump Administration and the Nazi's, their record keeping was meticulous and when they targeted a race and class of people for imprisonment, they could you tell you down to the person and family where everyone went and what their fate was.

The Trump Administration not only did not have "All the best people", they had incompetent fools throughout... :idea:


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:19 pm 
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Conclusion: NEVER TAKE A REPUBLICAN SERIOUSLY. DON'T BELIEVE A WORD THEY SAY. THEY LEARNED TO LIE AND MISLEAD. AND AT THAT, THEY ARE THE CHAMPS !
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:41 am 
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^Liar!


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:51 am 
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coevad wrote:
^Liar!

Prove me I'm wrong !
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:20 pm 
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Mij wrote:
Conclusion: THEY ARE THE CHAMPS !


How do you know they are champs and what championship did they win.... :?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:36 pm 
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Plook wrote:
Mij wrote:
Conclusion: THEY ARE THE CHAMPS !


How do you know they are champs and what championship did they win.... :?


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Never seen so much lying anywhere. They earned the Lying Championship.
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