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I am not afraid of the virus, but I can't say the same about some other things...

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As I said, there are things going up the wrong way that scares me a lot. Yesterday evening:

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So true!!! I have a friend who often doesn't leave home for days at a time. Now that the 'stay home' order has been put in place he's acting like a caged animal and bitching constantly about being stuck at home. :roll:
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That guy should be drawn and quartered he is a parasite, just like people who price gouge, simply disgusting... :evil:


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yeesh plook...
what did he do that is so wrong?
if he was asking questions that you wanted to know the answers to - would he still be a parasite that needs to be inhumanely murdered?

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yeesh plook...
what did he do that is so wrong?
if he was asking questions that you wanted to know the answers to - would he still be a parasite that needs to be inhumanely murdered?

I guess plook is angry cause the idiot in the video doesn't wear his hat ;-)
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Or maybe he simply disagrees that white vinegar clears chemtrails ;-) ;-) ;-)

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Eight strains of the coronavirus are circling the globe. They're giving scientists clues
Elizabeth Weise·15:41, March, 29th 2020.

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Scientists are tracking eight strains of the coronavirus by their genetic footprints.

At least eight strains of the coronavirus are making their way around the globe, creating a trail of death and disease that scientists are tracking by their genetic footprints.

While much is unknown, hidden in the virus' unique microscopic fragments are clues to the origins of its original strain, how it behaves as it mutates and which strains are turning into conflagrations while others are dying out thanks to quarantine measures.

Huddled in once bustling and now almost empty labs, researchers who oversaw dozens of projects are instead focused on one goal: tracking the current strains of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that cause the illness Covid-19.

Labs around the world are turning their sequencing machines, most about the size of a desktop printer, to the task of rapidly sequencing the genomes of virus samples taken from people sick with Covid-19. The information is uploaded to a website called NextStrain.org that shows how the virus is migrating and splitting into similar but new subtypes.

While researchers caution they're only seeing the tip of the iceberg, the tiny differences between the virus strains suggest shelter-in-place orders are working in some areas and that no one strain of the virus is more deadly than another. They also say it does not appear the strains will grow more lethal as they evolve.

"The virus mutates so slowly that the virus strains are fundamentally very similar to each other," said Charles Chiu, a professor of medicine and infectious disease at the University of California, San Francisco School of Medicine.

The SARS-CoV-2 virus first began causing illness in China sometime between mid-November and mid-December. Its genome is made up of about 30,000 base pairs. Humans, by comparison, have more than 3 billion. So far even in the virus's most divergent strains scientists have found only 11 base pair changes.

That makes it easy to spot new lineages as they evolve, said Chiu.

"The outbreaks are trackable. We have the ability to do genomic sequencing almost in real-time to see what strains or lineages are circulating," he said.

So far, most cases on the US West Coast are linked to a strain first identified in Washington state. It may have come from a man who had been in Wuhan, China, the virus' epicentre, and returned home on January 15. It is only three mutations away from the original Wuhan strain, according to work done early in the outbreak by Trevor Bedford, a computational biologist at Fred Hutch, a medical research centre in Seattle.

On the East Coast there are several strains, including the one from Washington and others that appear to have made their way from China to Europe and then to New York and beyond, Chiu said.

BEWARE PRETTY PHYLOGENETIC TREES

This isn't the first time scientists have scrambled to do genetic analysis of a virus in the midst of an epidemic. They did it with Ebola, Zika and West Nile, but nobody outside the scientific community paid much attention.

"This is the first time phylogenetic trees have been all over Twitter," said Kristian Andersen, a professor at Scripps Research, a nonprofit biomedical science research facility in La Jolla, California, speaking of the diagrams that show the evolutionary relationships between different strains of an organism.

The maps are available on NextStrain, an online resource for scientists that uses data from academic, independent and government laboratories all over the world to visually track the genomics of the SARS-CoV-2 virus. It currently represents genetic sequences of strains from 36 countries on six continents.

While the maps are fun, they can also be "little dangerous" said Andersen. The trees showing the evolution of the virus are complex and it's difficult even for experts to draw conclusions from them.

"Remember, we're seeing a very small glimpse into the much larger pandemic. We have half a million described cases right now but maybe 1000 genomes sequenced. So there are a lot of lineages we're missing," he said.

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Health workers applaud in support of the medical staff that are working on the Covid-19 virus outbreak in Spain.

DIFFERENT SYMPTOMS, SAME STRAINS


Covid-19 hits people differently, with some feeling only slightly under the weather for a day, others flat on their backs sick for two weeks and about 15 per cent hospitalised. Currently, an estimated 1 per cent of those infected die. The rate varies greatly by country and experts say it is likely tied to testing rates rather than actual mortality.

Chiu says it appears unlikely the differences are related to people being infected with different strains of the virus.

"The current virus strains are still fundamentally very similar to each other," he said.

The Covid-19 virus does not mutate very fast. It does so eight to 10 times more slowly than the influenza virus, said Anderson, making its evolution rate similar to other coronaviruses such as Ebola, Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) and Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS).

It's also not expected to spontaneously evolve into a form more deadly than it already is to humans. The SARS-CoV-2 is so good at transmitting itself between human hosts, said Andersen, it is under no evolutionary pressure to evolve.

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The Covid-19 virus does not mutate very fast. It does so eight to 10 times more slowly than the influenza virus.

SHELTER IN PLACE WORKING IN CALIFORNIA

Chiu's analysis shows California's strict shelter in place efforts appear to be working.

Over half of the 50 SARS-CoV-2 virus genomes his San Francisco-based lab sequenced in the past two weeks are associated with travel from outside the state. Another 30 per cent are associated with health care workers and families of people who have the virus.

"Only 20 per cent are coming from within the community. It's not circulating widely," he said.

That's fantastic news, he said, indicating the virus has not been able to gain a serious foothold because of social distancing.

It's like a wildfire, Chiu said. A few sparks might fly off the fire and land in the grass and start new fires. But if the main fire is doused and its embers stomped out, you can kill off an entire strain. In California, Chiu sees a lot of sparks hitting the ground, most coming from Washington, but they're quickly being put out.

An example was a small cluster of cases in Solano County, northeast of San Francisco. Chiu's team did a genetic analysis of the virus that infected patients there and found it was most closely related to a strain from China.

At the same time, his lab was sequencing a small cluster of cases in the city of Santa Clara in Silicon Valley. They discovered the patients there had the same strain as those in Solano County. Chiu believes someone in that cluster had contact with a traveller who recently returned from Asia.

"This is probably an example of a spark that began in Santa Clara, may have gone to Solano County but then was halted," he said.

The virus, he said, can be stopped.

CHINA IS AN UNKNOWN

So far researchers don't have a lot of information about the genomics of the virus inside China beyond the fact that it first appeared in the city of Wuhan sometime between mid-November and mid-December.

The virus's initial sequence was published on January 10 by professor Yong-Zhen Zhang at the Shanghai Public Health Clinical Center. But Chiu says scientists don't know if there was just one strain circulating in China or more.

"It may be that they haven't sequenced many cases or it may be for political reasons they haven't been made available," said Chiu. "It's difficult to interpret the data because we're missing all these early strains."

Researchers in the United Kingdom who sequenced the genomes of viruses found in travellers from Guangdong in south China found those patients' strains spanned the gamut of strains circulating worldwide.

"That could mean several of the strains we're seeing outside of China first evolved there from the original strain, or that there are multiple lines of infection. It's very hard to know," said Chiu.

THE VIRUS DID NOT COME FROM A LAB

While there remain many questions about the trajectory of the Covid-19 disease outbreak, one thing is broadly accepted in the scientific community: The virus was not created in a lab but naturally evolved in an animal host.

SARS-CoV-2's genomic molecular structure - think the backbone of the virus - is closest to a coronavirus found in bats. Parts of its structure also resemble a virus found in scaly anteaters, according to a paper published earlier this month in the journal Nature Medicine.

Someone manufacturing a virus targeting people would have started with one that attacked humans, wrote National Institutes of Health Director Francis Collins in an editorial that accompanied the paper.

Andersen was lead author on the paper. He said it could have been a one-time occurrence.

"It's possible it was a single event, from a single animal to a single human," and spread from there.

- USA Today

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Never in the world's history have been scientists, geneticists and PCR more important...

Together, without listening to Trump or B0l$0naro, we will overcome this...

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Never in the world's history have been scientists, geneticists and PCR more important...

Together, without listening to Trump or B0l$0naro, we will overcome this...


These two inaction will kill thousands (more than usual) as this thing ramps up.....
we'll never know the true death toll in China, North Korea or South Africa.....

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yeesh plook...
what did he do that is so wrong?
if he was asking questions that you wanted to know the answers to - would he still be a parasite that needs to be inhumanely murdered?

I guess plook is angry cause the idiot in the video doesn't wear his hat ;-)
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Or maybe he simply disagrees that white vinegar clears chemtrails ;-) ;-) ;-)

ugh. i knew i should have posted this in calvin's advice corner.

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"Brazil can't stop"

Coronavirus: Brazil's Bolsonaro in denial and out on a limb

As the world tries desperately to tackle the coronavirus pandemic, Brazil's president is doing his best to downplay it.


Jair Bolsonaro has largely struggled to take it seriously. Going against his own health ministry's advice earlier in March, and while awaiting the results of a second coronavirus test, he left self-isolation to join rallies against Congress.

He shook hands with supporters in Brasilia and sent a message to millions that this was not something to worry about.

In a televised address last week, he repeated a now well-worn phrase. "It's just a little flu or the sniffles," he said, blaming the media once again for the hysteria and panic over Covid-19.

A few days later, he clearly demonstrated his prioritisation of the economy over isolation measures favoured by the rest of the world.

"People are going to die, I'm sorry," he said. "But we can't stop a car factory because there are traffic accidents."

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DO NOT WATCH THIS ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2-oqXC ... 0IAgABHI8c

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Wuhan COVID-19 Deaths May Be in Tens of Thousands, Data on Cremations Show
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© Kevin Frayer/Getty People wear protective masks as they walk in an area usually busy with tourists near Tiananmen Square on February 28, 2020 in Beijing, China.

A stack of urns at a funeral home in Wuhan, the city's official cremation rates, and reports of an overwhelmed health care system have prompted speculation that Wuhan's real COVID-19 death toll could be in the tens of thousands—despite the Chinese government reporting 2,535 deaths from just over 50,000 coronavirus infections.

The coronavirus outbreak was first identified in Wuhan, Hubei in December 2019, before it then spread around the world, killing more than 33,000 globally as of Sunday. China's aggressive containment methods have slowed the virus domestically, with official new cases reported plummeting in the past few weeks. So far, Beijing has confirmed roughly 81,000 cases and 3,300 deaths, mostly in Wuhan, the epicentre of the virus' outbreak. But many people, including U.S. politicians have accused China of underplaying their real coronavirus death figure.

Their scepticism were sparked by Chinese officials' attempts to cover up the severity of the outbreak in the early stages—before the disease became widespread overseas—and the numerous revisions made to how domestic cases are counted. Wuhan's medical system was overwhelmed during the height of the outbreak in China, which further raises questions as to the officially reported 2,535 deaths.

In the fourth quarter of 2019, Wuhan also saw 56,007 cremations, a figure 1,583 higher than the fourth quarter of 2018, and 2,231 more than the fourth quarter of 2017, according to data released by the Wuhan civil affairs agency. In 2019, the Wuhan population grew by only 1.1 percent from 2018, according to a U.N. projection. These figures could indicate that the novel virus' emergence in December caused an increase in deaths—a trend that likely will have carried through to the first quarter of this year.

Photos began circulating across Chinese social media this week of urns arriving in the epicenter of the outbreak, after families who had lost loved ones to the novel coronavirus were instructed to pick up cremated ashes from one of the local funeral homes in the city. These images raised a fresh round of questions about the real coronavirus death toll in China, with domestic citizens and international critics using the number of urns to accuse the Chinese government of lying about their figures.

Newsweek reached out to the office of Chinese Ambassador to the United States Cui Tiankai via email for comment. The Chinese Foreign Ministry was also contacted for comment, but a response was not received in time for publication.

Trucks dropped off roughly 2,500 urns on both Wednesday and Thursday local time to one of the eight local funeral homes, a driver told Chinese media outlet Caixin. The news site also published another photo showing 3,500 urns stacked inside the facility. The number of urns that arrived in that one funeral home was far greater than the city's official overall death COVID-19 toll.

Some Wuhan residents estimate that the coronavirus death toll could be 26,000, based on the amount of urns being delivered and distributed across the city. Citizens on Chinese social media users have said that seven Wuhan funeral homes will likely distribute 3,500 urns per day on average from March 23 to April 4, which marks Qing Ming, the traditional tomb-sweeping festival. By that estimate, 42,000 urns would be given out in the 12-day period.

By minusing the expected deaths of roughly 16,000 in Wuhan, based on China's annual death rate over two and a half months, they estimate that the urns show that the coronavirus outbreak could have resulted in approximately 26,000 deaths. It is currently unclear, however, how many of the urns have been used.

Math based on urns, assumptions and social media isn't anything to go by. But it offers one estimation of the city's real death figure and further lends credence to the skepticism held by many of the accuracy of the Chinese government's officially reported Wuhan COVID-19 death tally.

Republican Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas cited the urn deliveries on Sunday to accuse China of misrepresenting the impact of the virus. "A *single mortuary* in Wuhan reportedly ordered more urns in two days than the Chinese Communist Party has reported total deaths in the whole country," he tweeted. "I'm sure you're shocked by evidence of Chinese lies."

The U.S. and Italy have both surpassed China in confirmed COVID-19 cases. American on Saturday became the first country to confirm over 100,000 cases of the novel coronavirus.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/wu ... id=BHEA000

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DO NOT WATCH THIS ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2-oqXC ... 0IAgABHI8c

Sorry, couldn't resist and watched it anyway :wink:
So it finally reveals as a hoax by the democrats to make the president look bad? I am glad to learn about that and i certainly prefer this pres reelected over this pandemic being real. He is definitivley the lesser evil by far. Since flights over germany (and probably everywhere) has been reduced to 5% of the normal airtravel we obviously don't get our usual dose of chemtrails and wake up by and by.
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