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sorry, but rush SUCKS!

Why do you say that?


Because ...

Lumpy Gravy = Grumpy Lady :cry:

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Lumpy Gravy = Grumpy Lady :cry:


cry cry cry, swifty

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sorry, but rush SUCKS!

Jakeobs wrote:
Why do you say that?


three reasons why rush sucks:

1. that godawful voice...

2. those incredibly stupid lyrics

3. music that goes absolutely nowhere


add to that some of the worst album covers I've ever seen...

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Lumpy Gravy wrote:
three reasons why rush sucks:

1. that godawful voice...

2. those incredibly stupid lyrics

3. music that goes absolutely nowhere


add to that some of the worst album covers I've ever seen...


Three reasons why Dylan sucks:

1. That god-awful singing voice - my two cats (Sasha & Molly) sound like world-class operatic vocalists, in comparison

2. Those incredibly overrated lyrics

3. Music that sticks to a blues progession formula that goes absolutely nowhere...and fast.

And to add to that, the most boring stage presence imaginable.

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to even begin to compare rush to bob dylan, does nothing but show your immaturity and your naïveté, disco boy...

it's sad... but I can't help but laugh...

this is truly the night of the cheap comebacks

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to even begin to compare rush to bob dylan, does nothing but show your immaturity and your naïveté, disco boy...


Really? Care to explain?

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Really? Care to explain?


no. you wouldn't get it anyway. :mrgreen:

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Really? Care to explain?


no. you wouldn't get it anyway. :mrgreen:


Backpedaling. I see you've got it down.

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peart's a hack, a mediocre hack at best

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peart's a hack, a mediocre hack at best


Really? Have you ever sat down behind a drum kit and took a shot at trying to do what he does? He's not my all-time favorite, but he's far from being a mediocre hack.

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Backpedaling. I see you've got it down.


whatever you say, dummy boy. whatever you say...

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Backpedaling. I see you've got it down.


whatever you say, dummy boy. whatever you say...


No, it's:

Whatever you say, dummy boy. Whatever you say...

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No, it's:

Whatever you say, dummy boy. Whatever you say...


whatever...

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Peart's a great lyricist, but only after he stopped writing about Ayd Rand books and Dungeons and Dragons fairy tales. I'd say "Free Will" was a turning point for him lyrics-wise. Since then, he's focused on real human predicaments, and done a damn good job. I think he's a great drummer too - though I wouldn't place him in my top 10.

Geddy Lee's voice doesn't bother me too much, but it's an acquired taste. I remember a morning show radio DJ here in Atlanta who did a great impression of Geddy singing, "oooohhhhh SALESMEN!" at the end of "Spirit of Radio". He was impersonating a man getting a colorectal exam, and it was hilarious in that context. "Yes, Dr. Jones, the wife is doing great, and Timmy has started high school, and oooooohhhh SAAALESMEN!!!!"

Can any Rush-ologists fill me in on what "Tom Sawyer" is about?

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Feets, try to watch the Exit Stage Left era video... Peart briefly comments what Tom Sawyer is about, although I can't tell you exactly what it is.... Maybe yt has it, let me see... Oh here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scTFAOfWiAU

Peart, in my teens, was said to be the best drummer ever, and I used to go along, before I knew the likes of Tony Williams, Billy Cobham, Vinnie Colaiuta, Ralph Humphreys, Buddy Rich, Bill Bruford, Airto, Nenê, Márcio Bahia and TONS of others... But to dismiss him as a GREAT rock drummer is just out of reality... I saw him once and only in Rio, in a gig that was recorded as a DVD, where you can see my forehead, and Peart is certainly a tight clock with amazing "pegada" (strenght of beat, so to speak)... Great drummer technically, not the most creative, but good taste parts...

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Got Rush?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78D00dYOBrM

Also:
http://www.zappa.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2609
Is it true, slime?

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Been in a huge Rush phase lately. I used to be a pretty casual fan, not familiar with much of their catalogue, the past month I've been digesting them chronologically album by album, I'm at Exit Stage Left Now and can't get enough. I think 2112 and Farewell To Kings are my two favourite albums, and Xanadu I think is probably my favourite song. So many great songs though! What a unique band. You take any of their songs, and you really couldn't imagine any other band writing and playing these songs. Like one band I would say there is no point in covering any of their works, they were who they were, leave it alone.

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Xanadu is a classic! Side B of Hemispheres is just perfect for a heavy prog rock album.

Moving Pics is a masterpiece 8)

Hold on tight, you are about to get into the downhill part of the Roller coaster. After Signals things get a little unbearable for orthodox fans. I dig the keyboard era, not as much as the others, but I do dig it too... One can say I am a big Rush fan, it made part of my early teens and never got away for long in my musical habits...

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Loved Rush growing up, and still do. Alex can be really good with the textures he uses. Learning to play Red Barchetta and La Villa....I still can't play them all the way through, but it's fun nonetheless.


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Well I'm familiar with their "hits" from the 80's and honestly, I don't mind them. I feel Rush had solid enough song writing skills to thrive through that phase, however, haven't put on a full album from there yet though, we'll see! But then again, I'm a big synth fan anyways!

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Loved Rush growing up, and still do. Alex can be really good with the textures he uses. Learning to play Red Barchetta and La Villa....I still can't play them all the way through, but it's fun nonetheless.

I think Alex is one of the most Underrated Guitarists.
His textures are awesome and his solos are so clean and simple/to the point.

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Funny this thread popped up. I just watched a Rush documentary on Palladia over the weekend, and it encouraged me to pull out Permanent Waves and give it a listen earlier tonight. I've always been kind of weird with Rush. I've never really loved them, but at some point in high school, I wound up acquiring several of their albums just for the hell of it. I always heard flashes of greatness in the midst of a lot of over-mathematical coldness that didn't resonate with me. However, their music has recently been sneaking up on me and making me think, "Hey, these guys are pretty good." Looks like I need to drag 2112 and Hemispheres back out and see what I think of them now.


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The revival of this thread perfectly segues into my trip to Southern California and Nevada to see Rush the other week. Here are my reviews...


So, since Rush skipped Vancouver this year, I decided to go visit my Cousin in LA to see them there and then in Las Vegas a few days later.


After the incredibly funny intro video started, it seamlessly segued into Rush launching into The Spirit Of Radio a few minutes later. Not wasting any time, Alex strapped on his Les Paul TV for Time Stand Still from their vastly underrated Hold Your Fire album…and they made it sound as fresh as it did when they recorded it in 1987. The biggest setlist surprise was the title track from the album, Presto - as they’ve never performed it live, despite it being one of the top 10 voted songs on rushpetition.com. I expected them to extend the outro, as the album version somewhat implies they might if they were to play it live, but they didn’t. Instead, Alex chose to play the chord progressions and not the leads. And though it didn’t end abruptly, they finished it off rather quickly. Still, a great setlist addition and very enjoyable nonetheless. Another track they’ve never performed live, Faithless, was very emotionally satisfying live. And lyrically, I’m glad Neil finally and clearly stated his thoughts with regards to religion, god, etc., with this tune - very powerful stuff. Over the past several tours, Geddy altered the way he sang Freewill after Alex’s solo, seemingly because some of the notes were too high for him to sing anymore. However, once Alex finished his solo, Geddy actually sang Freewill as he did on Permanent Waves...pretty much note for note. I shit you not. Yes, you heard right. This was worth the price of the tickets alone for me! After the LA show, I actually told my Cousin that Geddy sang it like that, and once Geddy launched into it at the Vegas show, we both looked at each other in complete disbelief. Un-fucking-believable! Just…wow! Marathon was another major highlight. Rush actually utilized the more up-tempo version found on Power Windows and not the slightly slower tempo rendition on A Show Of Hands. It was very uplifting. Subdivisions appeared to include unused footage from the music video shoot. And at the Vegas show, my Cousin filmed this entire song with his iPhone - we watched it on the drive back to LA two days later.

Once the second set started, Rush performed their most successful album to date, Moving Pictures in its entirety - something else they’ve never done before. The Camera Eye, which they haven’t played since 1983, sounded absolutely perfect live. I simply cannot believe Rush chose not to play this song for 27 years. Fucking beautiful. That’s all I have to say. For the past 30 years or so, Neil had been utilizing and working off the same theme in his drum solo. However, for this tour, he’s completely changed it and has added more African rhythms, tom-tom patterns, etc. He really still is at the top of his game and it was really refreshing to hear. Alex added an extended acoustic intro to Closer To The Heart, a staple that’s been absent in their live show for most fans since 1997. I wasn’t sure at the LA show how I felt about it but by the Vegas show, I got the gist of it and enjoyed it more. Geddy’s bass sound actually cut out for several bars at the LA show during this song. And he spread out his arms horizontally, as if to say to his techs, “What the fuck?!”…TWICE. Until finally, we all could hear his bass again. Also during the LA show, Alex broke a high E string in 2112: Overture but continued on like a true professional. Though he obviously couldn’t play the final note of the arpeggio in 2112: The Temples Of Syrinx, they still killed it! In the encore, Rush completely re-arranged the intro of La Villa Strangiato into what would best be described as a polka-muzak version. No shit! I’m still not sure if I dug it?! The first half of Working Man was re-arranged with a reggae feel. And by the time Alex got to take his extended solo, the motherfucker was on fire with his white Gibson 355, gladly taking the lead! And without giving anything away, the outro video was also extremely funny. Rush just keep raising the bar with these videos since they started producing them on their 2004 R30 tour. Some funny shit!

I must say, despite the LA crowd being appreciative towards Rush in between songs, overall they seem to be REALLY laid back. Whereas the Vegas crowd went fucking apeshit and Rush definitely fed off it! And despite the superior acoustics of the LA show, the Las Vegas show bettered the LA show.

I still can’t get over how intimate and astonishing good the acoustics were at the Gibson Amphitheater (capacity: 6,000) compared to the decent acoustics at the MGM Grand Garden Arena (capacity: 15,000). I could hear every hi-hat whisper, every ride cymbal stroke and every nuance you could imagine. My seat was located hard right, in Section 30 of the Mezzanine. Not the best seat in the house but decent nonetheless. From this vantage point, most of the top half of the stage set, which was basically the rear projection screen, was obstructed. However, there were additional screens on the hard right and left sides on the stage. I couldn’t believe how close I was and had a very good view of Geddy, Alex and Neil. The Gibson Amphitheater rules! A fan sitting me beside said he went to music school with former Zappa Plays Zappa keyboardist, Aaron Arntz. And I found out a couple of hours before Rush hit the stage that half of the ZPZ band were playing a club nearby called the Baked Potato the same night. Damn!

In Las Vegas, I spent probably at least 10 minutes walking around then asking people which way into the venue, then walking some more through the casino to find the MGM Grand Garden Arena. What a pain in the ass! After that mess, I found my seat in Section 6 of the lower bowl, not too far from Howard U’s reign at the soundboard. My Cousin arrived soon after. I had a much better view of the stage than at the LA show - almost parallel. A fan sitting next to me said he was also from Vancouver…and said he’s seen Rush 41 times! Talk about a small world?! For merch, I bought a Moving Pictures 2010 shirt and the Caravan CD single.

If you’re a fan and haven’t seen them and/or don’t plan to see them on this tour, YOU’RE FUCKING CRAZY and you seriously need to go check them out! Rush truly are like fine wine…they just keep getting better with age! And I say that objectively.

After the Vegas show, we casino hopped and eventually headed north to the Old Vegas strip on Fremont St. We found out that Blue Oyster Cult played a free show earlier that night in this area. Damn! And since I was wearing one of my Rush shirts, an older fellow who’s a hardcore music fan, came up to us just as we were about to head back to the hotel since it was already 5am, and started talking music and Rush with us for at least 10 minutes. He even pulled out his CD wallet and showed us his Pink Floyd Atom Heart Mother CD and then started to sing Summer ‘68. He ranted on about how underrated Rick Wright was. And of course, I couldn’t have agreed more…


SETLIST:


The Spirit of Radio
Time Stand Still
Presto
Stick It Out
Workin' Them Angels
Leave That Thing Alone
Faithless
BU2B
Freewill
Marathon
Subdivisions

Intermission

Tom Sawyer
Red Barchetta
YYZ
Limelight
The Camera Eye
Witch Hunt
Vital Signs
Caravan
Love 4 Sale" (Drum solo)
Closer To The Heart
2112: I) Overture
II) The Temples of Syrinx
Far Cry

Encore:

La Villa Strangiato
Working Man

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If you’re a fan and haven’t seen them and/or don’t plan to see them on this tour, YOU’RE FUCKING CRAZY and you seriously need to go check them out! Rush truly are like fine wine…they just keep getting better with age! And I say that objectively.

Thanks for the reviews... Wasn't Faithless performed during the snakes and arrows tour?

The only problem I am having to go and see them performing in Rio, in October, is the ticket price: around U$ 250,00 for the in front of the stage area (those are not seats, only an open area to stand up). I can also choose a ticket to watch it from afar for around U$ 110,00 (those are not seats, those are standing up, in a croweded area, watching little ants on the stage...) :x

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Listening to Signals for the first time. Subdivisions is of course awesome, but I knew that song already, the next two were weak for me, I actually really enjoyed Digital Man though, and feel it was a successful attempt at New Wave, I can see with this song why they moved on from their prog days, did that, rocked that, let's try something new.
Loving the drums in the intro to The Weapon! One thing I'm noticing is once again Peart is referencing the other songs on the album. I love how Rush always does that, creates some continuity across songs. The song loses points for the line "He's a little afraid of dying, but he's more afraid of your lying"!!!
New World Man is pretty good, about average in interest for this album for me.

Losing it is a great contrast to the rest of the album! Awesome!

And Countdown is pretty good too.

Overall not the best Rush album, but certainly not a letdown. I guess knowing ahead of time what I was walking into helps it not be a disappointment, merely a step in a new direction.

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