Disco Boy wrote:
1. Would Pink Floyd be the same without Gilmour's flawless guitar playing, tone, breathtaking vocals and songwriting efforts?
No, goes without saying that's why I said, when Gilmour was drafted in
together they produced that amazing sound.
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2. Did you know that MANY Pink Floyd album writing credits credited to Waters are NOT entirely correct or correct at all?:
Yes, I knew there were always problems towards the end with writing credits, mainly due to the fact that Waters felt Gilmour had not contributed greatly enough to be named. This was resolved though.
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~ on Wish You Were Here, it states in the liner notes that Waters wrote the song, well Gilmour wrote the main riff on acoustic guitar, as he stated in The Pink Floyd & Syd Barrett Story DVD.
Yeah, I have that DVD myself (amongst many other Floyd DVD's) but Gilmour says one thing and Waters says another, at the end of the day, who do you believe...are you sitting on Waters side of the fence or Gilmours? None of us know for sure, we only have what they say to go on.
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~ Another Brick In Wall, Part II was co-written by Gilmour in the solo section chord progression and of course the solo accompanying it.
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Waters agreed to credit Gilmour, but at the time Gilmour did have a bit of a fight on his hands to get his parts credited as Waters felt he had not contributed. Tempers were frayed between Floyd at that point, and their split not long after that is testament to this.
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~ 70% of the music to Sheep was written by Gilmour.
Gilmour is credited with Bass, Guitar, synthesizer, vocals and talkbox on that album...we knew this.
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~ Gilmour contributed greatly to the production of The Wall, along with Bob Ezrin, and even Michael Kamen.
Yep, well aware of all this too. Actually credited as co-producer of The Wall, along with Waters, Bob Ezrin and James Guthrie. Michael Kamen, who imo was amazing at what he did, is credited with Orchestra Arrangement.
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Waters, even though he's undeniably an excellent lyricist and collaborator, didn't know jack shit about production at this time - he knows more about it now however...
Despite this fact, he still knew what sound he wanted Floyd to have, and undeniably has learned from the experience he gained from working with some amazing production teams.
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~ Gilmour played bass on several early tracks since Waters couldn't play the bass (and still can't) to save his life
True, Gilmour did play some bass on early stuff, but by no means because Waters can't play. My arse he cannot play bass to save his life. Have you seen him play live, in front of you? I was right at the front of a concert I went to in Dublin, and he can play very fucking well, thanks.
Waters was credited with playing some Electric guitar on The Wall, does that mean Gilmour can't play? (which is something we all know he can do and does very well).
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I don't know how many times now that I've gone over the above on this forum but I'm getting sick and tired of explaining this to Floyd fans that are not properly informed...
I didn't realise you were the authority on all Pink Floyd related snippets of info. You aint the only fan, and do me a favour, next time you respond to a post Ive made, don't be so fucking shitty about it, I was polite with you, kindly offer me the same courtesy.
As for Floyd selling out, and Waters being an "egomaniac" as far as I'm concerned, I consider them to be one of the least self obsessed bands around. Anyone remember Gilmour giving away his 3.4 million mansion to a Homeless charity based in London? Said house has since been renovated into separate flats for the homeless and victims of domestic violence. Waters ploughed £8 million into The Berlin Wall Project, gaining not one penny from it himself, doing it purely to raise money for The Memorial Fund For Disaster Relief. He has never gained anything from that at all to this day. When the concert was set up, he stated that he wanted all royalties from tickets and sales of The Berlin Wall Album, to go straight to the fund in perpetuity.