Zappa.com

The Official Frank Zappa Messageboards
It is currently Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:28 pm

All times are UTC - 8 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 1001 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 37, 38, 39, 40, 41  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:01 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:51 pm
Posts: 39800
Location: >>==> Wellington, New Zealand.
Image

“With a billion horsepower drawn from Niagara I am going to signal Mars, and my message will reach not only that ruddy planet but one hundred times further, even to Neptune, which is so distant that our sun looks a little bigger than a star…
“Whether we can get an answer or not depends on who is there. More than likely the first answer for my neighbor will be: “Well–well–at last. We have been calling you the last ten thousand years.”

–Nikola Tesla

“Only A Matter Of Patience Now,” Says Tesla.“ New York American, March 11, 1906.

_________________
Hey Punk, Have You Lost Your Mind Like Rudy?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:08 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:51 pm
Posts: 39800
Location: >>==> Wellington, New Zealand.
Image

Heart Nebula, Stars and Dust

_________________
Hey Punk, Have You Lost Your Mind Like Rudy?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:30 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:51 pm
Posts: 39800
Location: >>==> Wellington, New Zealand.
Image

_________________
Hey Punk, Have You Lost Your Mind Like Rudy?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:43 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:51 pm
Posts: 39800
Location: >>==> Wellington, New Zealand.
Image

In The Shadow Of Saturn

_________________
Hey Punk, Have You Lost Your Mind Like Rudy?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:32 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:51 pm
Posts: 39800
Location: >>==> Wellington, New Zealand.
Image

IC 1396, Cepheus

_________________
Hey Punk, Have You Lost Your Mind Like Rudy?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:57 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:19 am
Posts: 7126
Location: Eastern CT coast
Image

Happy Halloween :D

_________________
Lesser-evilism is war.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:07 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 29, 2002 12:41 pm
Posts: 18232
Location: City Of Tiny Lites
Image

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:04 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:01 pm
Posts: 4243
Location: Locked up in Mexihico
*Keep it quick and you don't have to pay for Parking :mrgreen:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:42 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:51 pm
Posts: 39800
Location: >>==> Wellington, New Zealand.
^^^^^ greedy nasa, grabbed too many rocks, unable to close the lid, it'll be 2023 before they know what they got ^^^^^

Image

Star Cluster NGC 104, Bright Diamonds

_________________
Hey Punk, Have You Lost Your Mind Like Rudy?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:44 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:51 pm
Posts: 39800
Location: >>==> Wellington, New Zealand.
Image

NGC 7023, Ghost Nebula 8)

_________________
Hey Punk, Have You Lost Your Mind Like Rudy?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:14 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:52 pm
Posts: 20506
Location: LumberTruckWest
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:13 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:51 pm
Posts: 39800
Location: >>==> Wellington, New Zealand.
^^^^^ Trump University's 20 billion dollar Deep Space Observatory ^^^^^

Image

_________________
Hey Punk, Have You Lost Your Mind Like Rudy?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:37 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:01 pm
Posts: 4243
Location: Locked up in Mexihico
^ Now that's a Selfie :mrgreen:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:26 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:51 pm
Posts: 39800
Location: >>==> Wellington, New Zealand.
Image

Image

From 1971-1998, John Shepherd broadcasted various music vinyls to space with his own constructed equipment in hopes of attracting alien life.
Artists included Kraftwerk, Tangerine Dream, Can, and various jazz and classical albums.....

_________________
Hey Punk, Have You Lost Your Mind Like Rudy?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:20 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:51 pm
Posts: 39800
Location: >>==> Wellington, New Zealand.
Image

There is a point in the ocean called Point Nemo that is 1,450 nautical miles from land.
It is the perfect place for satellites to crash down on earth, and many have,
making it known as a "satellite cemetery".

Between 1971 and mid-2016, there had been 260 satellites seen in that area.

_________________
Hey Punk, Have You Lost Your Mind Like Rudy?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:22 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:01 pm
Posts: 4243
Location: Locked up in Mexihico
Gray_Ghost wrote:
Image

Image

From 1971-1998, John Shepherd broadcasted various music vinyls to space with his own constructed equipment in hopes of attracting alien life.
Artists included Kraftwerk, Tangerine Dream, Can, and various jazz and classical albums.....


Hope the Aliens like Krautrock :mrgreen:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:15 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:25 pm
Posts: 5253
Location: Oregon
Oct. 26, 2020
RELEASE 20-105
NASA’s SOFIA Discovers Water on Sunlit Surface of Moon

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-s-sofia-discovers-water-on-sunlit-surface-of-moon/

NASA’s Stratospheric Observatory for Infrared Astronomy (SOFIA) has confirmed, for the first time, water on the sunlit surface of the Moon. This discovery indicates that water may be distributed across the lunar surface, and not limited to cold, shadowed places.

SOFIA has detected water molecules (H2O) in Clavius Crater, one of the largest craters visible from Earth, located in the Moon’s southern hemisphere. Previous observations of the Moon’s surface detected some form of hydrogen, but were unable to distinguish between water and its close chemical relative, hydroxyl (OH). Data from this location reveal water in concentrations of 100 to 412 parts per million – roughly equivalent to a 12-ounce bottle of water – trapped in a cubic meter of soil spread across the lunar surface. The results are published in the latest issue of Nature Astronomy.

“We had indications that H2O – the familiar water we know – might be present on the sunlit side of the Moon,” said Paul Hertz, director of the Astrophysics Division in the Science Mission Directorate at NASA Headquarters in Washington. “Now we know it is there. This discovery challenges our understanding of the lunar surface and raises intriguing questions about resources relevant for deep space exploration.”

As a comparison, the Sahara desert has 100 times the amount of water than what SOFIA detected in the lunar soil. Despite the small amounts, the discovery raises new questions about how water is created and how it persists on the harsh, airless lunar surface.

Water is a precious resource in deep space and a key ingredient of life as we know it. Whether the water SOFIA found is easily accessible for use as a resource remains to be determined. Under NASA’s Artemis program, the agency is eager to learn all it can about the presence of water on the Moon in advance of sending the first woman and next man to the lunar surface in 2024 and establishing a sustainable human presence there by the end of the decade.

SOFIA’s results build on years of previous research examining the presence of water on the Moon. When the Apollo astronauts first returned from the Moon in 1969, it was thought to be completely dry. Orbital and impactor missions over the past 20 years, such as NASA’s Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite, confirmed ice in permanently shadowed craters around the Moon’s poles. Meanwhile, several spacecraft – including the Cassini mission and Deep Impact comet mission, as well as the Indian Space Research Organization’s Chandrayaan-1 mission – and NASA’s ground-based Infrared Telescope Facility, looked broadly across the lunar surface and found evidence of hydration in sunnier regions. Yet those missions were unable to definitively distinguish the form in which it was present – either H2O or OH.

“Prior to the SOFIA observations, we knew there was some kind of hydration,” said Casey Honniball, the lead author who published the results from her graduate thesis work at the University of Hawaii at Mānoa in Honolulu. “But we didn’t know how much, if any, was actually water molecules – like we drink every day – or something more like drain cleaner.”

Scientists using NASA’s telescope on an airplane, the Stratospheric Observatory for Infrared Astronomy, discovered water on a sunlit surface of the Moon for the first time. SOFIA is a modified Boeing 747SP aircraft that allows astronomers to study the solar system and beyond in ways that are not possible with ground-based telescopes. Molecular water, H2O, was found in Clavius Crater, one of the largest craters visible from Earth in the Moon’s southern hemisphere. This discovery indicates that water may be distributed across the lunar surface, and not limited to cold, shadowed places.
Credits: NASA/Ames Research Center

SOFIA offered a new means of looking at the Moon. Flying at altitudes of up to 45,000 feet, this modified Boeing 747SP jetliner with a 106-inch diameter telescope reaches above 99% of the water vapor in Earth’s atmosphere to get a clearer view of the infrared universe. Using its Faint Object infraRed CAmera for the SOFIA Telescope (FORCAST), SOFIA was able to pick up the specific wavelength unique to water molecules, at 6.1 microns, and discovered a relatively surprising concentration in sunny Clavius Crater.

“Without a thick atmosphere, water on the sunlit lunar surface should just be lost to space,” said Honniball, who is now a postdoctoral fellow at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland. “Yet somehow we’re seeing it. Something is generating the water, and something must be trapping it there.”

Several forces could be at play in the delivery or creation of this water. Micrometeorites raining down on the lunar surface, carrying small amounts of water, could deposit the water on the lunar surface upon impact. Another possibility is there could be a two-step process whereby the Sun’s solar wind delivers hydrogen to the lunar surface and causes a chemical reaction with oxygen-bearing minerals in the soil to create hydroxyl. Meanwhile, radiation from the bombardment of micrometeorites could be transforming that hydroxyl into water.

How the water then gets stored – making it possible to accumulate – also raises some intriguing questions. The water could be trapped into tiny beadlike structures in the soil that form out of the high heat created by micrometeorite impacts. Another possibility is that the water could be hidden between grains of lunar soil and sheltered from the sunlight – potentially making it a bit more accessible than water trapped in beadlike structures.

For a mission designed to look at distant, dim objects such as black holes, star clusters, and galaxies, SOFIA’s spotlight on Earth’s nearest and brightest neighbor was a departure from business as usual. The telescope operators typically use a guide camera to track stars, keeping the telescope locked steadily on its observing target. But the Moon is so close and bright that it fills the guide camera’s entire field of view. With no stars visible, it was unclear if the telescope could reliably track the Moon. To determine this, in August 2018, the operators decided to try a test observation.

“It was, in fact, the first time SOFIA has looked at the Moon, and we weren’t even completely sure if we would get reliable data, but questions about the Moon’s water compelled us to try,” said Naseem Rangwala, SOFIA’s project scientist at NASA's Ames Research Center in California's Silicon Valley. “It’s incredible that this discovery came out of what was essentially a test, and now that we know we can do this, we’re planning more flights to do more observations.”

SOFIA’s follow-up flights will look for water in additional sunlit locations and during different lunar phases to learn more about how the water is produced, stored, and moved across the Moon. The data will add to the work of future Moon missions, such as NASA’s Volatiles Investigating Polar Exploration Rover (VIPER), to create the first water resource maps of the Moon for future human space exploration.

In the same issue of Nature Astronomy, scientists have published a paper using theoretical models and NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter data, pointing out that water could be trapped in small shadows, where temperatures stay below freezing, across more of the Moon than currently expected. The results can be found here.

“Water is a valuable resource, for both scientific purposes and for use by our explorers,” said Jacob Bleacher, chief exploration scientist for NASA’s Human Exploration and Operations Mission Directorate. “If we can use the resources at the Moon, then we can carry less water and more equipment to help enable new scientific discoveries.”

SOFIA is a joint project of NASA and the German Aerospace Center. Ames manages the SOFIA program, science, and mission operations in cooperation with the Universities Space Research Association, headquartered in Columbia, Maryland, and the German SOFIA Institute at the University of Stuttgart. The aircraft is maintained and operated by NASA’s Armstrong Flight Research Center Building 703, in Palmdale, California.

B-roll footage related to this finding is available at:
https://images.nasa.gov/details-ARC-20201026-AAV3259-SOFIA-MoonWater-ResourceReel-NASAWeb

Learn more about SOFIA at:
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/SOFIA/index.html

_________________
“Listen to everyone, read everything; believe absolutely nothing unless you can prove it in your own right!”


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:55 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:51 pm
Posts: 39800
Location: >>==> Wellington, New Zealand.
Image

Heart and Soul Nebulae

_________________
Hey Punk, Have You Lost Your Mind Like Rudy?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:51 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:28 pm
Posts: 5417
Location: in the tiny dirt somewhere
Photographer Andrew McCarthy of Sacramento has taken some very cool photos of the International Space Station transiting the Sun and the Moon.

Image

Image

McCarthy has a lot more photos posted on Instagram

_________________
I'm petulant, and I'm having a frenzy...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:10 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:51 pm
Posts: 39800
Location: >>==> Wellington, New Zealand.
^^^^^ Awesome! ^^^^^

Image

Colors of the Moon via NASA

_________________
Hey Punk, Have You Lost Your Mind Like Rudy?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:44 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:51 pm
Posts: 39800
Location: >>==> Wellington, New Zealand.
Image

Comet Atlas and Orion's Belt via NASA

_________________
Hey Punk, Have You Lost Your Mind Like Rudy?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:51 pm
Posts: 39800
Location: >>==> Wellington, New Zealand.
Image

M16, Within The Heart

_________________
Hey Punk, Have You Lost Your Mind Like Rudy?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:08 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:51 pm
Posts: 39800
Location: >>==> Wellington, New Zealand.
Image

Mars Between The Lagoon and Trifid Nebulae

_________________
Hey Punk, Have You Lost Your Mind Like Rudy?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:27 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:51 pm
Posts: 39800
Location: >>==> Wellington, New Zealand.
Leonid meteor shower will be visible over New Zealand skies
11:26, November the 17th, 2020.

Image
Dan Kitwood/Getty Images
The meteor shower will be visible above in the constellation of Leo the lion, which is why they’re called Leonid meteors (file photo).

The Leonid meteor shower will be in full effect over New Zealand skies for the next few mornings.

The meteor shower appears from 14 to 21 November, but it is only visible in New Zealand from around 4am and is best viewed on a cloudless night when the moon is not too bright.

Dunedin observatory astronomer Ian Griffin said meteor showers happen because as the Earth goes around the Sun and over the course of the year it crosses the path of comets.

The comets drop off material as they go around the sun, he said.

"So basically we're crossing the path of a comet called Tempel-Tuttle and bits of that comet burn up high in our Earth's atmosphere and that's what we see as shooting stars or meteors.

“They come from a particular part of the sky, in this case the constellation of Leo the lion, and that's why they're called the Leonid meteors."

In New Zealand, Leo rises just after 4am and the meteors can appear in any part of the sky.

"The streaks of light that you see are caused by tiny tiny pieces of dust, almost the size of a pea sometimes, and as they move really quickly high in the sky, they burn up and that's when you see it."

Griffin said what you are seeing are the embers of a comet burning up.

It is also worth looking out for the planets Jupiter and Saturn in the early evening over the next month, he said.

"And they're going to get closer and closer and closer together until about the third week in December, they're going to be really close and that's going to be pretty fascinating to watch."

Griffin said by about the third week of December the two planets will be so close that it will be hard to detect them individually.


RNZ


https://www.stuff.co.nz/science/3001604 ... land-skies


ghost note:

In the early hours of the morning it was warm and clear, so after a vote, we zoomed the 25 odd km's [15.5 miles]
up to the top of the less light polluted Rimutaka hill road, located our favorite little sheltered look out spot,
broke out the binoculars biscuits and Irish coffee, and set up the deck chairs hoping to catch remnants
of the Leonid meteor shower.....

We had a great time even the (no vote) little woman, (has seen everything/is rarely impressed by anything)
was quietly impressed with the amount of astral activity going down, well worth the trip.....

I went a little retro with a dark side of the moon and meddle combo on the old Sony mini disc player.....

_________________
Hey Punk, Have You Lost Your Mind Like Rudy?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Space Is Deep
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:34 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:57 pm
Posts: 2313
^ Nice :smoke:

_________________
South of the Border


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 1001 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 37, 38, 39, 40, 41  Next

All times are UTC - 8 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 4 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group