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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:29 pm 
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Saw this new book being discussed on Zappateers. It looks like a doozy. I just ordered it up. Surprised I haven’t seen it mentioned on this forum (maybe I missed it) but it sounds like it’s the essential FZ companion. Does anybody have it yet?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:22 pm 
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It looks great, and as soon as I can afford it, I'm getting a copy also. There was mention of it in the "What book are you reading?" thread, but no real discussion.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:39 am 
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I've had it a couple weeks, but it's friggin huge. It'll be a while til I'm through.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:03 pm 
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The Forum Killed Arkay wrote:
I've had it a couple weeks, but it's friggin huge. It'll be a while til I'm through.

Sounds like there's going to be a lot of time on the toilet!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:45 pm 
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I'd better get a copy for the white house :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:02 pm 
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The Forum Killed Arkay wrote:
I've had it a couple weeks, but it's friggin huge. It'll be a while til I'm through.

It seems like it’s the type of reference book that you will want to go back to time and again and something you don’t necessarily need to read front to back.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:19 am 
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I agree, especially since its alphabetical rather than chronological. Serious potential for Bathroom Reading jpd, hahaha

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:38 pm 
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Just got it. Wow! What a lot of great information and sources. Really well put together and edited. At first glance no typos or messines that you see in so many “rock books”. Thank you Charles Ulrich for completing this Herculean effort.

I must say I’m also very fond of Greg Russo’s Cosmik Debris book. I haven’t checked out the Scott Parker books yet. Do those have much to add to the story?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:40 pm 
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It's back in stock @ Amazon. Ordered last night, email says I should have by Saturday.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:24 pm 
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Jesus yet another FZ reference book I don't need to add to the ridiculous number I already have.



Ordered..... :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:57 am 
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Gray_Ghost wrote:
Jesus yet another FZ reference book I don't need to add to the ridiculous number I already have.



Ordered..... :lol:

You NEED this one! :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:22 pm 
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I ordered it Tuesday.
Amazon said it would arrive July 6.
Just got an e-mail saying it's been shipped, and will be here tomorrow.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:35 pm 
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Gray_Ghost wrote:
Jesus yet another FZ reference book I don't need to add to the ridiculous number I already have.



Ordered..... :lol:


Yeah, my White house is overflowing already but I've already told Donald I want it :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:09 pm 
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Received mine today. This book is unbelievably phenomenally excellent!!!

I can say without hyperbole that this is an absolute must. I haven't approached it in any kind of order yet, just randomly opening pages.

Outstanding!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:03 am 
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Good to know, my copy is somewhere between the Amazon and Wellington..... :D

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:18 am 
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Ok I'll buy it... :smoke:


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:30 pm 
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Anybody past the letter "B" yet? :)

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The Forum Killed Arkay wrote:
Anybody past the letter "B" yet? :)



If by "B" you mean buy, not yet... :oops:


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:17 pm 
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The Forum Killed Arkay wrote:
Anybody past the letter "B" yet? :)

I’m not going in alphabetical order. The way I’ve been reading it to open up the chapter corresponding to the album I am currently listening to.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:08 pm 
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All of the album credits and lyrics are online. What are we left with? Detailed commentary on 1,663 tracks. Charles Ulrich dancing about architecture.

I hope no impressionable young people read any of this book before they get a chance to experience Zappa's music on it's own terms . Music "writers" are always trying to control other people's perspectives. They can't seem to let the art just be.

Why does anyone need a middleman between themselves and FZ's music? I'm not going to relegate Zappa's music to the background while I pay attention to Charles Ulrich. The music speaks for itself.

"Charles's book will be the next best thing to being in the room with Frank."
––– Scott Thunes

As if Zappa spent his time sitting around analyzing his past albums.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:19 pm 
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Thanks for setting us straight on that Downer. :roll:

Geez, it’s a reference book for hardcore fans. He’s not subjecting us to HIS opinions like Ben Watson and others have done in books and commentary. What do you have against Charles Ulrich? You don’t like physical books and only like getting information online?

No newbie is going to pick this book up and base his potential appreciation for FZ’s music on it. Maybe after a number of years of listening he or she might find that it enhances his or her appreciation and knowledge of the subject. This book is certainly optional entertainment though and nobody is going to force you or anyone else to purchase it or look at it.

Zappa obviously spent considerable time analyzing his past work. Ever heard of Conceptional Continuity?


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