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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:10 pm 
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info :arrow: http://www.lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/bootlegs/concert_boots1967-1970.html#trickortreat

audio :arrow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kANSseRVmts


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 Post subject: Re: Trick or Treat
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:32 pm 
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I have the cd of this wish I had the vinyl, but I have the vinyl of 2 others in what I consider the series. "The Ark" and "We Are The Mothers.. and This Is What We Sound Like" I thought these boots were great. Looked and felt like "real" records. Pre-internet, I actually thought it may have been Frank "bootlegging himself because big bad record companies wouldn't release these records and wouldn't sell him the rights. Hey it was pre-internet - I was trying to piece together the story. I also thought they were part of his unreleased History and Collected Improvisations of The MOI being released individually - which wasn't entirely wrong.

Were there any others using the same labels and high quality source material and cardboard stock?


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 Post subject: Re: Trick or Treat
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Max Lobster wrote:
Were there any others using the same labels and high quality source material and cardboard stock?

Try these two.

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 Post subject: Re: Trick or Treat
PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:09 am 
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http://wiki.killuglyradio.com/wiki/Bizarre_(bootleg_label)

The bootleg Bizarre label, better known as Nifty, Tough, and Bitchen Records, is one of many labels set up by a major bootlegger, identified only as "Richard". The label set out to produce high-quality pressings of live and unreleased or hard to find Zappa material. The album artwork is clever and well executed, and the record label is a reproduction of the original Bizarre label. Richard was, in his time, to be responsible for one ten-album set, one four-album set and nine single Zappa albums. He is quoted in Clinton Heylon's book BOOTLEG as having said:


"I'm a big Zappa fan. In fact, my Mystery Box got Zappa as upset as Columbia got over Ten of Swords [a Bob Dylan bootleg]. Zappa in America has a hotline for his fans to call and he went so far as to have the woman who does the hotline ask for help in tracking down the perpetrators of this heinous boxed-set, and Zappa called the FBI and the FBI didn't want to be bothered ... I guess the problem was that Zappa was doing his You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore, his ongoing series that has just ended, and Mystery Box was a giant You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore. A lot of reviews were saying that Mystery Box was better because it was chronological and didn't jump all over the place and didn't have all these stupid edits in it. That kind of thing can annoy you if you're an artist putting out your own thing ... Zappa's reasoning behind that was that he was losing tons of money and in fact he wasn't losing any money. Most people who do Zappa bootlegs do so because they like Zappa. They don't do it for the money. I can imagine people making money off a lot of other bootlegs, but not Zappa['s]."

If actually true, the idea of FZ on the phone with the FBI makes me chuckle for some reason.


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 Post subject: Re: Trick or Treat
PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:02 am 
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Got the vinyl in the mid-80s and it has been a fav ever since. Even though most, if not all, of these performances are on other products, this collection remains killer. I can't say that it has great sound, but it has an awesome tone. Ahead of Their Time may be the approved version of some of these cuts, but I enjoy this crappy ole vinyl more. The Big Medley is a total fav and the Previous Plastic was a blast to hear long before mp3s made them otherwise available.

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 Post subject: Re: Trick or Treat
PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:06 am 
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^^^I had never heard this before, thanks for posting... :!:


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 Post subject: Re: Trick or Treat
PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:33 am 
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^^^^^Well, the frost is on the pumpkin, so I thought this would be a good time to post this. 8)


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 Post subject: Re: Trick or Treat
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 Post subject: Re: Trick or Treat
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My first three Zappa vinyl bootleg LPs I ever bought were "Trick Or Treat" and "We are the Mothers.." and "The Ark."
I splurged and bought all three at a record convention.


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MOOP wrote:
My first three Zappa vinyl bootleg LPs I ever bought were "Trick Or Treat" and "We are the Mothers.." and "The Ark."
I splurged and bought all three at a record convention.
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^^^^^ :lol: ^^^^^

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