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 Post subject: Re: Hot Rats Sessions
PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:42 pm 
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just plain doug wrote:
Hello from Amazon.ca.

We now have delivery date(s) for the order you placed on October 17, 2019

Frank Zappa "Hot Rats (50th Anniversary 6CD Box Set)"
Estimated arrival date: January 27, 2020 - March 05, 2020

When I got that message, I cancelled it, and ordered from Amazon.com
Fuckin' can't believe it!
It arrived today, 4 days after placing the order!! :D
Totally was not expecting it.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:26 pm 
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The most gorgeous posthumous-release package to date. 8)


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 Post subject: Re: Hot Rats Sessions
PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 12:28 am 
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just plain doug wrote:
just plain doug wrote:
Hello from Amazon.ca.

We now have delivery date(s) for the order you placed on October 17, 2019

Frank Zappa "Hot Rats (50th Anniversary 6CD Box Set)"
Estimated arrival date: January 27, 2020 - March 05, 2020

When I got that message, I cancelled it, and ordered from Amazon.com
Fuckin' can't believe it!
It arrived today, 4 days after placing the order!!
Totally was not expecting it.

Merry Christmas from your friends to the south. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Hot Rats Sessions
PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 1:38 am 
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DHL tried to deliver the package to my work place on Tuesday, we were closed, I rebooked online for this Friday,
as I'll be in working as part of the Christmas/new year skeleton crew.....
Now that I've had my ears on this release, I can't wait to get my hands on it.....

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:50 am 
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I am absolutely loving this! On Disc 3 now.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 2:13 pm 
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KUIII wrote:
just plain doug wrote:
just plain doug wrote:
Hello from Amazon.ca.

We now have delivery date(s) for the order you placed on October 17, 2019

Frank Zappa "Hot Rats (50th Anniversary 6CD Box Set)"
Estimated arrival date: January 27, 2020 - March 05, 2020

When I got that message, I cancelled it, and ordered from Amazon.com
Fuckin' can't believe it!
It arrived today, 4 days after placing the order!!
Totally was not expecting it.

Merry Christmas from your friends to the south. :)

I'll have to thank the Donald. I never got packages that fast under Obama!

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 5:18 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Hot Rats Sessions
PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:38 am 
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Got mine for Xmas yesterday, now I just need to get all these people out of my house and some time alone so I can absorb it into my brain.

It is indeed a thing of glossy beauty. The liner notes are a little brief, I may have to augment it with the book for more words and pictures. Maybe that was their plan...I have gift cards to spare...


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 4:11 pm 
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Hot Rats is my favourite album of all time, so I was naturally very much looking forward to this release.

I'm currently halfway through my 3rd listen and can barely stop listening to this! There are so many gems here, that I think HR should've been a double album...fuck me dead! Zappa's soloing, especially the outtakes/overdubs on Willie The Pimp, clearly shows why he was the best guitarist in history! I love how we get to hear him directing the musicians while he is essentially writing parts of the album as he goes.

This is hands down THE finest ZFT release thus far and I doubt they're going to top it! :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Hot Rats Sessions
PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:37 am 
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Disco Boy wrote:
This is hands down THE finest ZFT release thus far and I doubt they're going to top it! :twisted:


But I'd like to see them try...I actually have high hopes for a Waka/Wazoo Project/Object.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 7:26 am 
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Frank Zappa’s ‘The Hot Rats Sessions’ Shows the Mother of Invention Hard at Work
With alternate takes and quirky touches, Zappa’s solo masterpiece gets a reissue worthy of its genius

By Kory Grow
December 26, 2019 9:34AM ET
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/frank-zappa-hot-rats-sessions-reissue-review-929963/

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Frank Zappa may be the only rock star as prolific in death as he was in life. And that’s saying a lot, considering he released 62 albums in his 52 years on this planet. Since his death in 1993, his estate has put out nearly 60 releases, making it even harder to navigate his labyrinthine catalogue and making most of these posthumous releases jewels waiting to be discovered. The latest is The Hot Rats Sessions — a six-disc, exhaustive deep dive into the main Mother of Invention’s first solo masterpiece, Hot Rats, which was also the third(!) album Zappa released in 1969.

The original LP was a tight 43 minutes of jazzy rock jams and cosmic compositions — a “movie for your ears,” as he called it in the sleeve art — but here, with nearly every single one of the 43 bazillion notes Zappa and his band recorded for the LP present, it spans some seven hours and 19 minutes and ventures into strange stratospheres. An exercise like this might seem like robbing the crypt for any other artist, but for someone like Frank Zappa who cultivated a dedicated cult of fans hell-bent on hearing all 43 bazillion notes — fans who make no qualms about seeing a Frank Zappa hologram simply because his vocals are sourced from an uncirculated bootleg — it’s more like an anthropological expedition.

Zappa always fancied himself a composer first and foremost — his widow, Gail, once told me she hoped an upcoming Zappa documentary would answer the question, “Why the fuck would anybody want to be a composer?” — and in The Hot Rat Sessions, you can hear his compositional genius at work.

For fans already familiar with Hot Rats and its bizarre tableaus and characters — the whimsy of the kazoo-like synths on “Peaches En Regalia,” Captain Beefheart’s lubricious yowls on “Willie the Pimp,” the school-educational film vibe of “Little Umbrellas” — the collection is like a how-to manual showing its construction. There are different permutations of each song, rehearsals, mixes that show off certain instruments, remixes. It’s a bit like lifting each of the transparencies in Gray’s Anatomy to see the muscles beneath the skin and the bones beneath the muscles to examine what makes a living organism. There are “rhythm” tracks, early takes that show off Zappa’s jaw-dropping guitar solos, even an a cappella version of “Willie the Pimp” that spotlights Beefheart’s singular phlegmatic sleaze.

Of course, none of this will interest new Zappa fans — and it might even frustrate Zappa diehards. After all, Frank Zappa has one of the most inscrutable discographies in recorded music. With more than 100 albums to choose from, would-be fans are often flummoxed trying to find a starting place. The original Hot Rats is a good one — as is the Mothers of Inventions’ debut Freak Out!, Zappa’s solo Sheik Yerbouti, Apostrophe(‘) and about a dozen other releases — but until you’ve spent serious time with Hot Rats, a set like this will feel like overkill. Moreover, only Zappa fans with diagnosed obsessive compulsive disorder (and they are most definitely out there) will appreciate the sparse, work-in-progress “take 1” of “Son of Mr. Green Genes” (though there is a brilliant guitar solo on there) and listening to the band rehearse “Peaches” slowly, to get it right, will appeal only to the sort of muso who regularly attends symphony rehearsals.

But even on the weirder tracks, Hot Rats is the sort of album that Zappa made for you to bliss out to. It’s a mood, one that’s not totally reflected by its cover art of Miss Christine from Zappa’s all-together Zappaesque girl group the GTO’s climbing out of an empty pool; it’s more serene than that. And when you immerse yourself in the sessions’ hours and hours of solos, it’s easy to get lost in it. It’s a mood that’s more accurately reflected in the Candyland ripoff board game “Zappaland” that comes with the box set, where a smoke break sets you back on the board or a “hot guitar solo” can push you ahead. And it’s a mood that’s captured in The Hot Rats Book, a separate standalone coffee table book of photographs by Bill Gubbins that visually shows “why the fuck would anybody want to be a composer” — or at least why Zappa did, given his intense looks in the photos. And it’s fun when you’re jarred back awake from the music by one of the promo spots on Disc Six or two young women telling “More of the Story of Willie the Pimp,” which mostly consists of them hysterically screaming (as Willie), “Son of a bitch!” or Zappa explaining that the phrase “hot rats” was just his description for how he felt an Archie Shepp solo sounded.

This box set is the type of treatment usually reserved for Beatles reissues, but because it’s Zappa The Hot Rats Sessions is a more delightfully quirky. It doesn’t contain everything, the way something like the Stooges’ 1999 box set, 1970: The Complete Fun House Sessions, did, but because of the Zappa-esque details, it feels more comprehensive, for better or worse — there’s even a wholly unnecessary 1987 remix that feels more unnaturally “Eighties” than the original mix. (You can skip it). Here, experimentalism is the star, and Zappa’s adventurous spirit is why Hot Rats became an early classic for him in the first place.

You won’t walk away from it with any better understanding of why he was driven to be a composer or made the music he did, but you will have a better grasp on the innumerable details that made Hot Rats a classic.


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 Post subject: Re: Hot Rats Sessions
PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 7:52 am 
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Disco Boy wrote:
This is hands down THE finest ZFT release thus far


I can't stop listening either, and the more I listen, the more I'm inclined to agree.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:24 pm 
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Still waiting, I did a fast seven hours at work on Friday bashing out e mails 'n' stuff.....
No sign of my Hot Rats Sessions delivery.....I did get a text around 10:00am
saying they had tried and failed to deliver as we were closed which is a bunch of bs,
the doors were open from 7:30am till a little after 1:30pm.....

Sooooo now it's going to be Monday.....maybe

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:32 pm 
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^Shit :mrgreen:


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Thank God it's nonperishable... :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Hot Rats Sessions
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:26 pm 
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Has your Rats turned up yet Gray?


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 Post subject: Re: Hot Rats Sessions
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 9:15 pm 
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Has your Rats turned up yet Gray?


yes yes yes, arrived at work around midday today as promised, the second time around.....
Last weeks failed delivery had been to the factory next door.....

Just this minute hit the sofa and resumed my bogus xmas/new years break
by opening up the package.....at first fondle, very very nice.....

I forgot how much I miss the lp sized inserts and booklets of yesteryear,
it's makes a nice change not to have to use a magnifying glass to read the liner notes :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Hot Rats Sessions
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Nice, large format is easier on the eyes.

I'm lounging here too - just listening to Weather Report Black Market on vinyl but will be back to Hot Rats shortly :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:19 pm 
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Excellent!

There will definitely be some Hot Rats action in the cave over the next wee while.....

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 Post subject: Re: Hot Rats Sessions
PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:18 am 
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^^^Enjoy my friend, enjoy... :!:


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Aaaaaaaaaaat laaaaaassssst! Mine arrived at work last week, but I've been home on vacation. Today, I see it in all its kickass excellence. Can't wait to dig in! :)

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Plook wrote:
^^^Enjoy my friend, enjoy... :!:


Cheers Plook, something tells me Arkay is going to love it too..... 8)

just got my arse kicked at Zappa Land, again..... :lol:

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Years ago, last century, I hung with a guy Matt who was heavily into
photography, this was way back when you needed a guy into photography
and a darkroom to do photography stuff.

Among other things Matt did an amazing job reproducing hundreds of my
tiny family photos that had been taken throughout the late 40's 50's and 60's
mostly with the old box brownie type camera, many with a close up of my
mothers finger along the bottom, creating an awesome family artifact
that nobody cares about. Matt has always done a lot of commercial work,
his own personal work has always been in black and white which automatically
earned him the team nickname of Matt Black.....

Anyway, away back in the day, Matt blew up a Hot Rats poster, cropped out the text
top and bottom had it mounted and framed and gave it to me on my 21st birthday.
That scary picture has hung in on and around my life through all the comings and
goings since March 1979.

It has been suggested that The Hot Rats Sessions cover deserves the same treatment,
I've made the call on the Black phone and Miss Christine is getting a twin.....
It was good to talk to th' Black one, it had been a year or so, he's coming around tonight
for the new years eve gathering that we're not having.....
Matt hasn't seen Cookie since 92-93, they had a short thing back in the 80's
it ended badly because Matt had a short thing :lol: that thing being an attention span.....
It could be a tough night for the kids.....
Matt is unaware of Cookie's situation and
Cookie is unaware that Matt came out of the closet in 2002.....

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:45 pm 
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Joe and Ahmet knocked this one out of the park. Like the MOFO releases, it's nice to get a view into the process as it unfolded in real time on tape. Interesting how the first day taping saw a full band changeover with the exception of Underwood.

Great release. 2019 was a nice year for Zappa releases.


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There is more content at Globalia now
http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/T ... sions.html
The links to later releases such as Läther are useful.


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