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 Post subject: Re: Hot Rats Sessions
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:42 am 
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Imagine for a moment if you will, the Hot Rats sessions taking place a little later in FZ's career,
then maybe the die hard/soon fan would have a movie of the album(s) as well as the books.....

makes me giddy just thinking about it :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:39 am 
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The Hot Rats Book was shipped on the 13th, due for delivery on the 28th..... :D


Arrived on the doorstep of the cave (not the designated address) today, five days early.....

A very impressive addition to my Zappa library, and making the number one slot
of this weeks reading list, with the bullet .....and that's saying something.....

I have to say, it could be my imagination, but at first blush this book has the feel of official Zappa publications of old.....

Many thanks to all involved.....

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 Post subject: Re: Hot Rats Sessions
PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:53 am 
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Talking With Bill Gubbins About Frank Zappa and Hot Rats
Nashville author Gubbins will discuss The Hot Rats Book Thursday at Parnassus

https://www.nashvillescene.com/arts-culture/books/article/21111110/talking-with-bill-gubbins-about-frank-zappa-and-hot-rats

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n the summer of 1969, 19-year-old Bill Gubbins aspired to interview his musical hero, Frank Zappa, then touring with The Mothers of Invention in Warrensville Heights, Ohio. What Gubbins didn’t know was that Zappa would soon dissolve The Mothers and enter the studio to record Hot Rats, an iconic solo album. The Hot Rats Book: A Fifty-Year Retrospective of Frank Zappa's 'Hot Rats' tells the story of how Gubbins — who would go on to edit Creem and Country Weekly — not only interviewed Zappa but was invited to photograph the Hot Rats recording session and camp out in Frank Zappa’s Los Angeles home. Gubbins’ photos and narrative offer a unique insight into a legendary musician, as well as a fascinating personal story of a teenage dream fulfilled.

Gubbins, who lives in Nashville, recently answered questions via email.

What a remarkable story The Hot Rats Book tells — not just for Zappa fans, but for anyone who was once a teen in small-town USA with a hero and a crazy hope/desire to spend time with him or her. What inspired you to create this particular book now?

First, thank you for your kind words about the book. Here’s the genesis of the project:

The Hot Rats shots were in storage from 1969 to 2014. In the fall of 2014 I dug them out, took them to Chromatics, the great Nashville photo house, had them scanned, then used them to create a book prototype entitled August 1969 (An intimate look at the recording of Hot Rats).

I shopped it around for a couple of years to which I received a resounding chorus of rejections, and pretty much put it on the back burner.

In the fall of 2017, I was so impressed with Meat Light (the reissue of Frank’s 1969 Uncle Meat) that I sent a fan note to Joe Travers, the project’s producer. To my surprise, Joe answered the email, and I mentioned the book [and] sent him the prototype. He forwarded it to Ahmet Zappa, Frank’s second son and head of the Zappa Trust. Ahmet liked it; we then met in March of 2018, and in the fall of ’18 formed a partnership to publish the book on the 50th anniversary of the release of Hot Rats in October of ’69.

You touch on this in the book, but what was your fascination with Frank Zappa’s music in your teens? And has that evolved over the years?

I still love Frank’s music as much as I ever did, if not more. Hot Rats was recorded 50 years ago and it sounds like it was recorded 50 minutes ago.

I think Frank’s core appeal was the sheer totality of his singularity — there wasn’t anyone similar who preceded him, and there certainly hasn’t been anyone even close since. I think the only way to approach Frank’s body of work (which is not limited to music, by the way) is to consider him an artist, rather than a “composer” or another music-related term.

And, as an artist, the most useful analogy is probably Pablo Picasso, who, like Frank, succeeded in multiple mediums, was both breathtakingly prolific and extraordinarily innovative, and whose final work was qualitatively equal to his early work.

Frank Zappa was influenced by an enormous range of composers and musical genres. Any thoughts on his musical legacy?

I’m not sure I’m the right guy to really do the “musical legacy” question justice, but here’s my take: I think something like 67 albums of Frank’s music have been released. For laughs, let’s say the average length of each album was 30 minutes (probably low), which means his current output is something like nearly 34 hours of music (67 albums x 30 minutes per [album] = 2,010 minutes then divided by 60 minutes per hour = 33.5 hours).

Now I haven’t listened to all 34 hours but I’m guessing I’m relatively close — and I’ll say this: It’s all interesting (in the Stanley Kubrick usage of the word) and there is no end to the breadth of music genres Frank worked in. (Frank did everything from rock to classical, from country to gospel, from electronic to jazz; heck you could even say “Trouble Every Day” from 1966 was one of the first rap songs.)

The other thing to keep in mind is that Frank’s legacy goes way beyond music, extending into disparate fields including — but not limited to — fashion, filmmaking and philosophy.

In short: If you’re wearing a man bun or an ironic T-shirt today, thank Frank Zappa.

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 Post subject: Re: Hot Rats Sessions
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The Hot Rats Book is a great companion piece to the Hot Rats Sessions set. What an opportunity for Mr. Gubbins to not only document a memorable MOI concert, but to also witness the recording of a legendary album.

Great photographs and entertaining Q&A with Ahmet. Thank you for this release.

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I think it's safe to say the Hot Rats Sessions is now my favorite Zappa album.

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So, this other person, or robot maybe, is going faster and faster until you can't take it any more and have to say "The Hot Rats Sessions is now my favorite Zappa album!". Uhhhmmmm, ok, I guess it's no penguin in bondage, but do yer thing, no problem.

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The Forum Killed Arkay wrote:
So, this other person, or robot maybe, is going faster and faster until you can't take it any more and have to say "The Hot Rats Sessions is now my favorite Zappa album!". Uhhhmmmm, ok, I guess it's no penguin in bondage, but do yer thing, no problem.

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No worries... SIAJ and I have odd senses of humor.

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 Post subject: Re: Hot Rats Sessions
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I guess I'm late to the party, but I just got my boxed set yesterday, haven't listened to it yet.
However I did hear some rips of it on YouTube, which prompted me to invest in the whole collection.
The quality is very nice, with the book and the game with guitar picks.

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 Post subject: Re: Hot Rats Sessions
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GEE WHISKERS - this is amazing - the jams and improvs never rest on what is one of the finest of FZ's releases..completed bits found on WEENIE, RATS, and CHUNGA are all here. Solid, and I am only on disk 4............I think Hot Rats should have been an Ian Underwood release produced by FZ, or at least a FZ/Ian title.....this is essential!


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The Hot Rats Sessions also includes a one-of-a-kind “Zappa Land” board game, with custom game pieces, dice and playing cards, where fans are tasked with helping Frank get back to the studio to finish Hot Rats.

This was the clincher. Pre-ordered. 8)
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. . . the Candyland ripoff board game “Zappaland” that comes with the box set, where a smoke break sets you back on the board or a “hot guitar solo” can push you ahead.
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I played some of it on News Years for a guest who loved it... :D
I've been wondering, do you have to be a Zappa fan to enjoy this game? Or is it something anyone could get into?
I was playing with a Barry Manilow fan the other day and we had a fabulous time. :mrgreen:
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Late to the party, but I simply LOVE this release. I would also rank it among the top-top ZFT releases. No doubt.

Wonderful music (d'uh), and a wonderful look into the creative process. It is simply amazing. (And the packaging is top notch as well - the LP size is a great touch, and I think the board game is a nice detail - power to the physical product.)

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This is hands down THE finest ZFT release thus far


I can't stop listening either, and the more I listen, the more I'm inclined to agree.

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What I find disappointing about the Gubbins book is the lack of photos of the session musicians. They played significant roles in the the jams FZ used to build up much of this album.

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polydigm wrote:
What I find disappointing about the Gubbins book is the lack of photos of the session musicians. They played significant roles in the the jams FZ used to build up much of this album.


I'm glad you have brought this to light. I was annoyed about an apparent lack of Captain Beefheart photos but adding this discovry kind of points to the buck spinning coffee table book I was pretty sure it was. I'll grab it only when I can find it for 'the right' price.

The audio box set is amazing. Wished it could have omitted the board game in order to reduce it's price point but oh how I love listening to the making of one of the greatest albums of all time. An absolute treasure.


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So, this other person, or robot maybe, is going faster and faster until you can't take it any more and have to say "The Hot Rats Sessions is now my favorite Zappa album!". Uhhhmmmm, ok, I guess it's no penguin in bondage, but do yer thing, no problem.


Oh, it's definitely a robot. You see, what I do is...and then it...

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A sense of humour that took a year and a half to illicit a response!

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polydigm wrote:
A sense of humour that took a year and a half to illicit a response!


I've been busy.

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A sense of humour that took a year and a half to illicit a response!

I've been busy.

I can relate to that. Where does the time go? I'm in a constant battle between wanting to see my plans come to fruition and not wanting the time to pass so quickly. I used to say to my kids when they were growing up (you know kids: I can't wait, I can't wait, I can't wait ...), don't wish your life away. None the less, I'm in the middle of this five year, ish, project and I can't wait until it's ready.

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polydigm wrote:
I can relate to that. Where does the time go? I'm in a constant battle between wanting to see my plans come to fruition and not wanting the time to pass so quickly. I used to say to my kids when they were growing up (you know kids: I can't wait, I can't wait, I can't wait ...), don't wish your life away. None the less, I'm in the middle of this five year, ish, project and I can't wait until it's ready.


Back in 2003 when Mrs. Jar was expecting, someone, I think Noomies, started a thread called Parenting Tips for Sleeping In A Jar. Well, that baby is now in her first year of college. Where does the time go indeed.

What kind of project you working on?

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What kind of project you working on?

The first album of my own compositions and an album of Frank Zappa covers. A lot of what I'm doing currently, involves intense instrumental, arrangement and production practice. I've been doing it full time for three years now and probably have at least another two years to go before I'm ready.

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What kind of project you working on?

The first album of my own compositions and an album of Frank Zappa covers. A lot of what I'm doing currently, involves intense instrumental, arrangement and production practice. I've been doing it full time for three years now and probably have at least another two years to go before I'm ready.


That is outrageous (outrageously excellent)!

Would love to hear. Do you play everything?

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Would love to hear. Do you play everything?


I appreciate your interest. I don't want to crowd this site, but your question is answered on the home page of my web site, linked in my signature. If you're then curious any further, the web site's pretty self explanatory (I hope).

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polydigm wrote:

I appreciate your interest. I don't want to crowd this site, but your question is answered on the home page of my web site, linked in my signature. If you're then curious any further, the web site's pretty self explanatory (I hope).


I checked it out. Cool site. Watched a few youtubes, great stuff! Will def check further.

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polydigm wrote:

I appreciate your interest. I don't want to crowd this site, but your question is answered on the home page of my web site, linked in my signature. If you're then curious any further, the web site's pretty self explanatory (I hope).


I checked it out. Cool site. Watched a few youtubes, great stuff! Will def check further.

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