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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:36 am 
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I'm excited about the new Zappa releases. I was happy to only receive Mothermania. I'm twice as happy to receive the deluxe version of Orchestral Favorites.

I'm purchasing the colored Mothermanie through Newbury Comics. The three CD has also been pre-ordered through Amazon. No brainers here.

My dilemma -- I have already purchased an old Discreet version. Should I replace my 40 year old LP with the reissue?

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks for the help.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:50 pm 
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HitchHiker wrote:
My dilemma -- I have already purchased an old Discreet version. Should I replace my 40 year old LP with the reissue?


If you're not desperate for shelf space, I would keep both. Different covers, and I'll be very surprised if the sound isn't substantially different between the two.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:19 pm 
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Finally got off my butt and ordered Mothermania.
I could use something new to listen to and I never had this album so this will be a treat.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:20 pm 
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Are there any additional inserts in the Zoot Allures reissue. I remember the original album just had a generic record sleeve with the only information being on the cover. I don’t play vinyl anymore but I’m considering getting this for nostalgia and display purposes as it was my first Zappa album acquired shortly after it came out in ‘76. There’s a copy of the reissue in our local little record store that has my name on it. I’ve decided if it’s still there when I go in the next time that it was meant to be and I’ll go ahead and get it.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:53 pm 
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KUIII wrote:
Are there any additional inserts in the Zoot Allures reissue. I remember the original album just had a generic record sleeve with the only information being on the cover.


You get nothing with your Zoot Allures reissue. So if nothing is what you want...

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Shrewnews wrote:
KUIII wrote:
Are there any additional inserts in the Zoot Allures reissue. I remember the original album just had a generic record sleeve with the only information being on the cover.


You get nothing with your Zoot Allures reissue. So if nothing is what you want...

A true Zen saying. :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:04 pm 
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Mothermania showed up today, great job as always and keep them coming, please.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:04 am 
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I received my copy of Mothermania. The colors are really great looking. The splatter I'm not too impressed by. It looks like kitten whiskers.

I'm looking forward to receiving my Orchesral Favorites.

I've also hear rumors of another Halloween release coming next. We shall see.
Thanks everyone for keeping the Zappa music available for us to listen to.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:07 am 
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Orchestral Favorites showed up and is on the turntable at the moment.

Somehow I never purchased it way back when it first came out so this is a real treat.
As always, looking forward to the next album showing up in my mail box.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2020 12:39 pm 
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Does anyone know what the next one will be?
The turntable is getting a bit dusty.


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SteveFord wrote:
Does anyone know what the next one will be?


YCDTOSA Sampler is coming out in June (pushed back from April) as a "Record Store Day first" release, meaning that it will be available as a regular stock item at some point afterwards (maybe not on colored vinyl like the RSD pressing).

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Already have the original one :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:17 pm 
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Lots of CDs but all quiet on the vinyl front...

Maybe there's something in the works?
I put up a karma on AudioCircle for the next vinyl release and then all goes quiet.


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So glad this Mothermania colour vinyl release has come to reality. While I'm not interested in this particular album in this format, it's presenting a nice way to request from fans who no doubt own the original vinyl and possibly the CD release as well, if you notice something.

That is the long debate that picture discs and colour vinyl records do not sound as good as a standard black vinyl. However recent advances in vinyl pressing suggest this is an old polly waffle that's been floating around since the dark ages.

Could anyone please confirm if your mega cool looking color vinyl version of this album(or any other Zappa colour vinyl release) sounds better, worse or absolutely no different at all in sound quality whatsoever in comparison to standard releases of these vinyls.

I'd be really interested to know and thank you if you can provide any input. (I've wanted to know if I'm missing anything by not having an original release of Captain Beefheart's Trout Mask Replica for example. I own the mega cool fish scales re-release of the album(from Third Man Records) that came out a couple of years ago and find it stunning in audio clarity but if it's even better in a standard release I'd actually track down and pay for an original release just to hear that bit extra or if there really is a benefit/difference???)

I've also been fascinated by the marketing gimmick that thicker vinyl will produce a better sound. I tested this theory out years ago when Guitar magazines used to give you these thin 'sound page' square vinyl sheets with demo and sample audio tracks pressed into them. There was zero difference to my ears. As long as the grooves are good and you have a good turntable setup, the sound was the same. But apparently the colouring (amazingly even the black vinyl is actually coloured and the PVC is actually clear in it's natural state, so maybe clear vinyls will sound better than black??? Who knows but I would certainly love to know.))


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:01 am 
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So glad this Mothermania colour vinyl release has come to reality. While I'm not interested in this particular album in this format, it's presenting a nice way to request from fans who no doubt own the original vinyl and possibly the CD release as well, if you notice something.

That is the long debate that picture discs and colour vinyl records do not sound as good as a standard black vinyl. However recent advances in vinyl pressing suggest this is an old polly waffle that's been floating around since the dark ages.

Could anyone please confirm if your mega cool looking color vinyl version of this album(or any other Zappa colour vinyl release) sounds better, worse or absolutely no different at all in sound quality whatsoever in comparison to standard releases of these vinyls.

Wondering the same thing myself. It has been a common belief that picture discs and colored vinyl affect sound quality, but times and technology have changed. Maybe this isn't the case anymore? Would be good to have a first hand account of some of these newer releases.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:13 pm 
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typical arguments often have to do with
the subjective ear hole and
brain synapses aligned thru prior experience / memory allocations...
but,
I really like vinyl, the sound reproduced seems deeper and after a certain time period (because of technology, and, choice) the clarity of 'note envelopes' seems overall clearer - somehow.
and despite the inevitable crackle of magnetic surface and surface displacement (over time, especially), the broader seeming range and dynamics of vinyl sounds better overall to my ear

and of course that's why I'd love to see
any of the Joe's Corsage series,
the Hot Rats Sessions in particular, but any
Roxy Session ,
on multi-record set
could be SO fine

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I am very much looking fwd to the ZAPPA Soundtrack ...
dunno how I'm gonna afford it however :arrow:

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Rawgah!

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^^^^^^^^^^^
wail, THAT's enticing...
what the hell, Arkay, \
I see it's a special thing
I wonder whoa

looks yummy and would fit nicely by the Rollo 10-inch
{hint, nudge, wink}

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^^^ Yessir! :)

This ep is awesome. It is a backer-only vinyl. I'll break it down, spoilers ahead!
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1a. The Full Impact - FZ talking about David Crosby wanting FZ to teach him Raga after seeing The Mothers playing in that style.
2a. Rawgah - The Mothers playing a Raga jam, some of which obviously found its way onto WOIIFTM.
3a. Watermelon from The Ritz - Sure, its been bootlegged a ton, but this also tells me that there likely won't be a ZFT-approved full version of The Ritz.

1b. The Vault of Imaginary Diseases - The band comps while FZ expounds upon the nature of Imaginary Diseases: Excellent!
2b. Brutality - Same as the boot, although maybe a bit more fidelity.

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COOL!
& Thanks for the write-up!
[edit: I see they're just showing up today in places, ok. I'll be patient]

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Will vinyl still be required now that full 24bit 19KHz versions of the recordings are available???

Could be a sore point for the vinyl collectors but a valid question in these times of environmentally friendly reduction of resource use. Not saying a vinyl isn't a good use of materials but when there are digital versions which will sound better than the vinyl equivalent, it would be interesting to know what others think.

Hey I have over 200 vinyl albums I'm certainly not going to be getting rid of in my life time but if you compare a vinyl to even say a super audio CD your going to be amazed at the increase in dynamics and detail compared to the vinyl. Also you can reap the benefits of high definition audio files and terrific sounding audio dacs for a fraction of the cost of the vinyl equivalent(something like 10K versus about 3K if your go for the higher end gear and that's not top of the line by any standard. I'm sure every vinyl fan in the world worth there salt has been into the high end HiFi stores which sell the 50K turntables etc? The one I saw had a 25K stylus on top of that 50k and then of course you have your 10k phono box to connect to the expensive amplifier and speaker setup etc. It really is a skies the limit arena vinyl. Whereas with digital files you can reduce that cost substantially with little to negligible audio quality loss. Even a cheap digital player capable of 24bit play back can sound far better than any cheap turntable where cheap and great sounding simply never go together in the audio world.

At the end of the day, I can't deny that carrying around a couple of memory cards is a lot less hassle than carrying around a couple of hundred vinyl records.

Still for those classic analogue favorites the terrific large art panels and overall feel of a vinyl really make you feel like you own something special. Space on a memory card just doesn't seem as wonderful, so I guess vinyl will always have it's place in the analogue world, just not sure it's worth bothering having vinyl's of a digital only recording, like so many modern releases.

Curious to hear the differences of opinion because at the end of the day, it's what people are prepared to buy that matters the most to the industry and has the final say I guess. A vinyl size cover with a memory card instead of the vinyl anyone??


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Since I prefer records I hope for more to come. Especially the later releases. I think Guitar was the last album, that was available on vinyl - without some later exceptions.

I'm very pleased, that Phish is starting a special vinyl series now: https://phish.com/news/announcing-new-l ... yl-series/ ... they were focused on cds and downloads for decades. Maybe the ZFT will have mercy with the vinyl nerds in the future.

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