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 Post subject: Meat Light
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:47 pm 
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This appeals.
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 Post subject: Re: Meat Light
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 3:05 pm 
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Appropriate cover artwork, me thinks...

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cool cover art, the teeth & glued-on fibers relate to the original cover ... likely cal's work

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slime.oofytv.set wrote:
cool cover art, the teeth & glued-on fibers relate to the original cover ... likely cal's work

Not Cal's work.


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 Post subject: Re: Meat Light
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 4:06 am 
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Obviously inspired by the original art-mark.

Also, reminisces me a bit of Scarfe's work:

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 Post subject: Re: Meat Light
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:11 am 
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Can we get a FREAKIN' TRACK LISTING?!?!?!


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 Post subject: Re: Meat Light
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:38 am 
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Track list is up on Amazon. Looks like we have vinyl mix + 2 CDs of alternates and outtakes. Reactions?

Disc: 1
1. Uncle Meat: Main Title Theme
2. The Voice Of Cheese
3. Nine Types Of Industrial Pollution
4. Zolar Czackl
5. Dog Breath, In The Year Of The Plague
6. The legend Of The Golden Arches
7. Louie Louie (At the Royal Albert Hall in London)
8. The Dog Breath Variations
9. Sleeping In A Jar
10. Our Bizarre Relationship
11. The Uncle Meat Variations
12. Electric Aunt Jemima
13. Prelude To King Kong
14. God Bless America (Live at the Whisky A Go Go)
15. A Pound For A Brown On The Bus
16. Ian Underwood Whips It Out (Live on stage in Copenhagen)
17. Mr. Green Genes
18. We Can Shoot You
19. If We'd All Been Living In California...
20. The Air
21. Project X
22. Cruising For Burgers
23. King Kong (as played by the Mothers in a studio)
24. King Kong (it's magnificence as interpreted by Dom DeWild)
25. King Kong (as Motorhead explains it)
26. King Kong (the Gardner Varieties)
27. King Kong (as played by 3 deranged Good Humor Trucks)
28. King Kong (live on a flat bed diesel in the middle of a race track at a Miami Pop Festival...the Underwood ramifications)

Disc: 2
1. Dog Breath, In The Year Of The Plague
2. The Legend Of The Golden Arches
3. The Voice Of Cheese
4. Whiskey Wah
5. Nine Types Of Industrial Pollution
6. Louie Louie (Live at the Royal Albert Hall in London)
7. The Dog Breath Variations
8. Shoot You Percussion Item
9. The Whip
10. The Uncle Meat Variations
11. King Kong
12. Project X Minus .5
13. A Pound For A Brown On The Bus
14. Electric Aunt Jemima
15. Prelude To King Kong
16. God Bless America (Live at the Whiskey A Go Go)
17. Sleeping In A Jar
18. Cops & Buns
19. Zolar Czakl

Disc: 3
1. We Can Not Shoot You
2. Mr. Green Genes
3. PooYeahrg
4. Uncle Meat: Main Title Theme
5. Our Bizarre Relationship
6. Later We Can Shoot You
7. If We'd All Been Living In California...
8. 'Ere Ian Whips It/JCB Spits It/Motorhead Rips it
9. The Air
10. Project X .5
11. Cruising For Burgers
12. A Bunch Of Stuff
13. Dog Breath (Single Version - Stereo)
14. Tango
15. The String Quarte
16. Electric Aunt Jemima (Mix Outtake)
17. Exercise 4 Variant
18. Zolar Czackl (Mix Outtake)
19. More Beer!
20. Green Genes Snoop
21. Mr. Green Genes (Mix Outtake)
22. Echo Pie
23. 1/4 Tone Unit
24. Sakuji s March
25. No. 4
26. Prelude To King Kong (Extended Version)
27. Blood Unit
28. My Guitar (Proto I- Excerpt)
29. Nine Types Of Industrial Pollution (Guitar Track, Normal Speed)
30. Uncle Meat (Live at Columbia University 1969)
31. Dog Breath (Instrumental)
32. The Dog Breath Variations (Mix Outtake)


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 Post subject: Re: Meat Light
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:47 am 
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Sounds great.
The presence of the original Lp mix is a relief.
But I really would have liked the movie to be present.
Hopefully it will come out on Bluray one day or another.


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 Post subject: Re: Meat Light
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:58 am 
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That looks awesome.


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 Post subject: Re: Meat Light
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Agree on the movie. hopefully we'll get a Honker relaunch now that the vault is getting digitized.


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 Post subject: Re: Meat Light
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On the cover it's referred to as an audio documentary, so I was not expecting the movie.

That being said, the track list looks phenomenal! So grateful for the vinyl mix. To me, the CD transfer lost something in terms of bass (example: Nine Types of Industial Pollution) and spaciousness.

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more photos here: zappa at apostolic

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 Post subject: Re: Meat Light
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:34 pm 
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dukeoprunz wrote:
Track list is up on Amazon. Looks like we have vinyl mix + 2 CDs of alternates and outtakes. Reactions?

Disc: 1
1. Uncle Meat: Main Title Theme
2. The Voice Of Cheese
3. Nine Types Of Industrial Pollution
4. Zolar Czackl
5. Dog Breath, In The Year Of The Plague
6. The legend Of The Golden Arches
7. Louie Louie (At the Royal Albert Hall in London)
8. The Dog Breath Variations
9. Sleeping In A Jar
10. Our Bizarre Relationship
11. The Uncle Meat Variations
12. Electric Aunt Jemima
13. Prelude To King Kong
14. God Bless America (Live at the Whisky A Go Go)
15. A Pound For A Brown On The Bus
16. Ian Underwood Whips It Out (Live on stage in Copenhagen)
17. Mr. Green Genes
18. We Can Shoot You
19. If We'd All Been Living In California...
20. The Air
21. Project X
22. Cruising For Burgers
23. King Kong (as played by the Mothers in a studio)
24. King Kong (it's magnificence as interpreted by Dom DeWild)
25. King Kong (as Motorhead explains it)
26. King Kong (the Gardner Varieties)
27. King Kong (as played by 3 deranged Good Humor Trucks)
28. King Kong (live on a flat bed diesel in the middle of a race track at a Miami Pop Festival...the Underwood ramifications)

Disc: 2
1. Dog Breath, In The Year Of The Plague
2. The Legend Of The Golden Arches
3. The Voice Of Cheese
4. Whiskey Wah
5. Nine Types Of Industrial Pollution
6. Louie Louie (Live at the Royal Albert Hall in London)
7. The Dog Breath Variations
8. Shoot You Percussion Item
9. The Whip
10. The Uncle Meat Variations
11. King Kong
12. Project X Minus .5
13. A Pound For A Brown On The Bus
14. Electric Aunt Jemima
15. Prelude To King Kong
16. God Bless America (Live at the Whiskey A Go Go)
17. Sleeping In A Jar
18. Cops & Buns
19. Zolar Czakl

Disc: 3
1. We Can Not Shoot You
2. Mr. Green Genes
3. PooYeahrg
4. Uncle Meat: Main Title Theme
5. Our Bizarre Relationship
6. Later We Can Shoot You
7. If We'd All Been Living In California...
8. 'Ere Ian Whips It/JCB Spits It/Motorhead Rips it
9. The Air
10. Project X .5
11. Cruising For Burgers
12. A Bunch Of Stuff
13. Dog Breath (Single Version - Stereo)
14. Tango
15. The String Quarte
16. Electric Aunt Jemima (Mix Outtake)
17. Exercise 4 Variant
18. Zolar Czackl (Mix Outtake)
19. More Beer!
20. Green Genes Snoop
21. Mr. Green Genes (Mix Outtake)
22. Echo Pie
23. 1/4 Tone Unit
24. Sakuji s March
25. No. 4
26. Prelude To King Kong (Extended Version)
27. Blood Unit
28. My Guitar (Proto I- Excerpt)
29. Nine Types Of Industrial Pollution (Guitar Track, Normal Speed)
30. Uncle Meat (Live at Columbia University 1969)
31. Dog Breath (Instrumental)
32. The Dog Breath Variations (Mix Outtake)


Really has potential, disc two could have some extended versions perhaps...

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 Post subject: Re: Meat Light
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I'm guessing that CD 2 and half of CD 3 could be a version of the "No Commercial Potential" 3LP set.

from http://www.lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/vinylvscds/uncle_meat.html

ROLLING STONE: Are you recording at all now?

ZAPPA: We have 2 albums in the can. We've been working on this for the past 5 months. We bought a huge block of time in a studio in New York with our own teenage money, secretly knowing that MGM would bite the dust ... becausegood guys always win. [---?] 2 albums. One is Whatever Happened to Ruben & the Jets? - a secret project [which obviously ended up as Cruising with Ruben & the Jets - Ed]. The other is No Commercial Potential - a 3-record set. Six sides. It has such 8-minute tidbits as police busting our recording session. New York cops! Live! In person! You can't dance to it! It also has a piece where Jimmy Carl Black, the Indian of the group, is bitching because we are not making any money, and it's taking too long for the band to make it. 2 songs about El Monte Legion Stadium. A song about fake IDs. Another song about teats. A surrealistic R&B song called "The Air Escaping from Your Mouth". 2 other surrealistic things: "Mr Green Genes" and "Electric Aunt Jemima". Lots of instrumentals. On one song, we used 40 tracks and the tune lasts 90 seconds.That took us 4 days to put together. It'll probably be released in the fall.


I guess that "A Bunch of Stuff" is the last track from NCP, since it would make sense to start the bonus tracks off with the single version of Dog Breath.

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 Post subject: Re: Meat Light
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http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=30972&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=105

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 Post subject: Re: Meat Light
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hmm....looking over the track list for disc two. My guess is that maybe it's an early version of Uncle Meat?
What ever it is, it looks very interesting. As does disc 3.


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 Post subject: Re: Meat Light
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punknaynowned wrote:
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This appeals.
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Thanks,
Theo Holdt
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 Post subject: Re: re: meat light
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slime.oofytv.set wrote:
cool cover art, the teeth & glued-on fibers relate to the original cover ... likely cal's work

Thanks, I see the resemblance but this is an original artwork that I made independently in 2003 and it was not originally intended to be on the cover of anything. It was a stand alone piece of art. Serendipity brought me together with Gail and Diva Zappa at the point in their lives when they were thinking of this project. I like Cal's work now that I have seen it. Gail saw the work at a show and I guess it reminded her of the original cover art. I am so honored to be chosen to be on this amazing new release of Zappa!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Meat Light
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Congratulations on having yer work on an FZ album! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Meat Light
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Excellent release. Most importantly, finally a decent CD version of the original album!

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 Post subject: Re: re: meat light
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slime.oofytv.set wrote:
cool cover art, the teeth & glued-on fibers relate to the original cover ... likely cal's work

Thanks, I see the resemblance but this is an original artwork that I made independently in 2003 and it was not originally intended to be on the cover of anything. It was a stand alone piece of art. Serendipity brought me together with Gail and Diva Zappa at the point in their lives when they were thinking of this project. I like Cal's work now that I have seen it. Gail saw the work at a show and I guess it reminded her of the original cover art. I am so honored to be chosen to be on this amazing new release of Zappa!!!



I think it's pretty darn cool and fitting for this release! Good job! I know people who would love a poster print of this.


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Thanks. They have the rights to the work so posters will have to be from them. You can see my other artwork at theoholdt.com. I am all over the place. The painting on the album is from 2004 and was part of a series of paintings that I added a lot of "talismans" to that were laying around the studio. I have a few left. Gave away or sold the rest. One could always just scan the cd and print your own poster if you have any photoshop skills.

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@TheoHoldt

I notice you've posted a big message on the Activation forum, but no-one can reply to you there, it's just a forum for joining up here. Try making the same post as a new topic in this forum (Zappa Albums) instead.

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theoholdt wrote:
Thanks, I see the resemblance but this is an original artwork that I made independently in 2003 and it was not originally intended to be on the cover of anything. It was a stand alone piece of art. Serendipity brought me together with Gail and Diva Zappa at the point in their lives when they were thinking of this project. I like Cal's work now that I have seen it. Gail saw the work at a show and I guess it reminded her of the original cover art. I am so honored to be chosen to be on this amazing new release of Zappa!!!
hats off to you theo.holdt, makes for a choice cover

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