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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:16 am 
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is it just me, or is camarillo brillo a weird first track for a zappa album?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:34 am 
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manichispanic wrote:
is it just me, or is camarillo brillo a weird first track for a zappa album?



Not for that album.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:41 am 
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manichispanic wrote:
is it just me, or is camarillo brillo a weird first track for a zappa album?

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Its just you :wink:


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:45 am 
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It's a fun song, the trumpet parties towards the end are very Ska. It's kinda like Fine Girl starting up TTR.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:49 am 
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I think it's a great opener. I love it.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:37 am 
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Frank definitively knew what he was doing...

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I agree with the initial poster. It's one of my least favourite Zappa tracks, and a bizarre choice as an opener. I'd have opened the album with Slime.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:26 am 
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Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
Frank definitively knew what he was doing...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:21 am 
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I agree with the initial poster. It's one of my least favourite Zappa tracks, and a bizarre choice as an opener. I'd have opened the album with Slime.

I'd have made it an all covers album and saved the over-nite sensation material for inclusion in a multi-disc extravaganza that I would release in the mid-eighties. :wink:


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its just....DIFFERENT! :|

its not a bad song, but i do find myself skipping that song and going straight to track 2 most of the time

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If you forget a bit about the lyrics (which I like, btw), which in case of a non-English speaker is easy, it is full of soulful playing (e.g. Duke's piano and Humphrey's fills) and it showcases Frank's skills as an arranger (e.g. the wind section towards the end), in a very accessible harmonic language. It is a bright little strictly commercial tune.

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Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
If you forget a bit about the lyrics (which I like, btw), which in case of a non-English speaker is easy, it is full of soulful playing (e.g. Duke's piano and Humphrey's fills) and it showcases Frank's skills as an arranger (e.g. the wind section towards the end), in a very accessible harmonic language. It is a bright little strictly commercial tune.


A famous Italian once said "they don't realize that it's . . . there's notes involved"
Well that was in the context of fans that look for the lyrics and the so called Frank Zappa madman stage persona.
The flip of the coin regardless of lyrical content is that there is always notes involved.

I just love the opening, that first 18 seconds sets the stage for not only the song but the entire album.
Yes the song did become an encore favorati for many of NYC Finest Crazy Type People but for me
the opening us just bebbin'.

Take a listen to a sample from the forthcoming Dweezil Zappa "RETURN OF THE SON OF ...." Live Double CD

Camarillo Brillo
http://www.dweezilzappaworld.com/songs/3


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Very nicely written, see the video later; ..maybe. Now we can buy a cd, go to the concert and time is slacking down to a screeching halt, eh wha'?

You lot and all should keep that for a perusal and Mevrouw Bonny can post the trophee over to Gary with all probability.


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Big Bang, Dark Energy.............THE BIG NOTE


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that's spooky, the entropy will have none of stopping, till eternity. We have a gigger problems hear.


probably edit .. in a phew gnomekeresses.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:29 am 
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People who first heard all the stripped-down, superficial live encore versions might be irritated.
No irritation here because before hearing any live versions I heard the original OS studio version back then in all its hornsection + proto-Mark-Knopfler-fills glory.

I wish Frank had performed a live version with all those elements intact (?). And I mean Frank, not Dweezil.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:49 am 
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I listened to it only about 1.5 hrs ago and love it.
It has a nice warm feel to it and I love the outro when Zappa kind of hums the melody.
As for the drums, these might go unnoticed to most people but they are absolutely superb. Very busy but still funky, a hard balance to achieve without sounding too much within a song.
The opening drums are very John French sounding to me in style, particularly with the use of those pea-soups

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:51 pm 
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One of my favorite Zappa tunes. He could really write these perfect little radio friendly tunes when e wanted to.


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i wonder what the inspiration for this song was...

not for the lyrics, but what inspired him to write the music

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I remember a review back then that said, with reference to Camarillo Brillo, that Zappa must have been listening to "the decadents", David Bowie, Lou Reid…

I don't know about that, but I was thrilled when Camarillo came through the speakers for the first time. I was excited about the sound, and that stayed for the whole album.

Some of my fellow fans in "high school" dismissed it as being utterly commercial, and while I would have liked more of the Grand Wazoo stuff, I really thought that this was a substantial album. Still do!

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BBP wrote:
It's a fun song, the trumpet parties towards the end are very Ska. It's kinda like Fine Girl starting up TTR.


Erroneous. Offbeats do not equal "Ska".


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punkguysc wrote:
BBP wrote:
It's a fun song, the trumpet parties towards the end are very Ska. It's kinda like Fine Girl starting up TTR.


Erroneous. Offbeats do not equal "Ska".


How strange to tell someone that they are wrong about how something sounds to them

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maybe punkguysc invented ska?

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manichispanic wrote:
maybe punkguysc invented ska?

:roll: :mrgreen:


That must be it

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I mean those trumpet parties towards the end there sound a lot like the trumpet parties in Madness's Our House. Or vice versa, Madness was more recent.

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