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 Post subject: Re: Francesco Zappa!
PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:49 am 
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For those of you who have tasted Francesco's blood and want more:

The New Dutch Academy just released Zappa Symphonies, premiering some of Francesco's work (and it has some Mozart, Graaf and Schwindl).
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Thank you for this info -- I will be buying this soon. :mrgreen:

Francesco rocks!

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 Post subject: Re: Francesco Zappa!
PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:04 pm 
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the album is good for what it is. but it would be the last album i suggest to people new to Zappa. and maybe the last album i'd choose to listen to of Frank's

but as the album states - "Who gets this one?"

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 Post subject: Re: Francesco Zappa!
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:00 am 
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polydigm wrote:
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I think there were tracks with Chad doing overdubs. Is that correct, or are the drums all over the album? Or is my memory way off?
Is this one of your subtle jokes? If you're serious, then there are no drums on the album. Composers back in those days used very little if any percussion let alone drum kits.

No, I am dead serious on this one. Good to know there are no drums on the album; I kind of expected that.

Nevertheless, I am ALMOST sure that I have heard at least one of the tracks with Chad's drumming. Maybe on a radio show, which I have tons of on tape (on the attic). Hmmmm, I'll go searching for this. Anybody got some info?

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 Post subject: Re: Francesco Zappa!
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:42 am 
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Got it!!!

From http://lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/bootlegs/orchestral_boots.html#returnofthesonofseriousmusic

Return of the Son of Serious Music
Orchestral situation at Mount Saint Mary's College, 1963
Other orchestral recordings
Synclavier recordings
Re-issued as record 9 of the Mystery Box

Length: ~47 min
Label: Nifty, Tough & Bitchen Records

Musicians: unknown

1. Piece #1
2. Piano Piece
3. Piece #2
4. Collage One
5. Opus 5

6. While You Were Art #1
7. Francesco Opus 1, No. 1, 2nd Movement Allegro con Brio [Francesco Zappa]
8. Francesco Opus 1, #3, 2nd Movement Presto [listed as Opus 1/6] [Francesco Zappa]
9. Francesco Opus 1, #6, 2nd Movement Minuet [listed as Opus 1/11] [Francesco Zappa]
10. Francesco Rock [Opus 1, #1, 1st Movement Andante] [Francesco Zappa]
11. Pedro's Dowry

Side 1 is from an orchestral situation with the Pomona Valley Symphony Orchestra at Mount Saint Mary's College, Claremont, California in 1963, conducted by Frank Zappa. A small part of this has been officially released on The Lost Episodes, as "Mount Saint Mary's Concert Excerpt".

According to the liner notes on the Mystery Box, "While You Were Art #1" is the "original, stripped-down version", and the Francesco tracks are out-takes. They sound like different orchestrations of Francesco Zappa album tracks. "Francesco Rock" has a drum track.
The notes also claim that "Pedro's Dowry" was played by the Berkely Symphony Orchestra in June 1981, but it's from "A Zappa Affair", June 16, 1984. Anyway, this release may or may not be related to the bootlegs Serious Music and Son of Serious Music - it's certainly supposed to look that way.

Our Pal, Biffy the Elephant Shrew, pins down the source of "Francesco Rock":

He didn't play it live, but he did play the tape during at least one live (non-concert) appearance: "Speaking of Music", San Francisco, May 20 1984. This was broadcast, and I'd venture that that's where the bootleg comes from.

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 Post subject: Re: Francesco Zappa!
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:24 pm 
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The_Acadian_2 wrote:
Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
jimmie d used to say he liked to play it to his family during Christmas evening...

I do that too. With a nice fire going in the fireplace and the kids playing board games....It's perfect.

…and jimmie d still sez that… 8)


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