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Leave it to Trendy to take what was a cool thread discussing the new Buffalo 1980 release, and take it ridiculously off topic and into retardland.

Trendy, honestly, your pointless rants take away a lot of enjoyment I get from coming to these forums and discussing FZ's music with other fans who love the MUSIC. That's great that you've appointed yourself as Gail's little Snitch, but complaining about someone selling a CD is beyond stupid to me. WHAT DO YOU CARE? Is it illegal to sell a car you bought new as well?

God you have such negative fucking energy.


The way cool thread turned off topic when some Constantly Crying Forum Member said Fuck You Trendy before I even commented on this comming out. I have supported and enjoyed all Official Releases for the last 40 years so why would I not like this one.

Sincerely folks I am happy for all fans and we all are lookind forward to the release. Unfprtunately I did not drive to Buffalo for that show. The Palldium shows were soemthing special. From my memory some shows were cut short a bit compared to most Zappa shows as Frank was feeling pretty ill. Maybe all the AUD tape collectors have documented the 1980 Palladium Halloween run and can interject but Buffalo looks special. Can't wait to get my hands on sweaty hands on this one. Shoudl be here Tommorow or Wednesday.

I think we all await Buffalo with open ears regardless of any polished turd ideology factor.


Tell me what I've cried about? I think the majority of people here would vote YOU the crybaby.

YOU are the only one who has even brought that up!! The "Fuck You Trendy" comment was made in reference to the fact that this release is a FULL SHOW. A complete and full show is something that the ZFT must be fully aware that the FANS like me want. It's not another "sampler" this time is it?


I am glad we got a Full Show. I have expected this type of release since Gail announced Vaulternative Records in 2002. I think more Full Shows will come along but in no way do I think projects are or should be limited to the idea of Full Shows. Not that you do but to call the Halloween DVD-A a Sampler just shows no appreciation for what that DVD-A project represents.

Anyhow now that a Full Show is upon us a am sincerly happy for you Jayp just as i am happy fro All Zappa fans. There was no need to immediaately comment Fuck You Trendy in your first reply to the topic. I am a bit more sincere than you might think.


I never said I didn't appreciate the work on the Halloween DVD-A I like it for wht it is, but the FACT still remains that because it is NOT the full concert it is a sampler of parts from a live show with surround sound.

Call it what it is. Just like when someone calls you a douche.

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I'm really looking forward to this full concert release. I saw this band play about 7x if ya treat early/late shows separately. I don't remember much outside that Frank's guitar was great, exploding in my face. Very intense moments. I hope it triggers some old memories. The Fall '80 series was a welcome relief after the NY/NJ April/May Logeman tour. That tour was largely a bummer as it was a definite venue downgrade, Frank playing in Hockey Rinks as opposed to a more intimate theater like the Capitol in Passaic or The Palladium. Is there much of this band on the You Can't series? I'll have to check. Very interesting choice from the ZFT. Can't wait.


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Tell me what I've cried about?


I do take objection with how some Fans act regarding the artistic integrity of Frank Zappa. you at times have been at the top of that list. If anyone wants to call me a cry baby about that or Gail's Snitch well so be it.

Now what you've cried about.

Jayp it's your avatar. Alot of your writings sound like that Jim Baker character who has just been caught inserting the tip. Why don't you change it to the Buffalo CD cover now that you have a Full Show.

Did not Gail Zappa once state she woudl not personaly sell you a DVD of The Dub Room Special. Come on Jayp you are a Zapap fanatic. I can appreciate that but just as some view my commentary as out there you calling Official Zappa releases Rehash or Samplers shows no respect to the artistic intergrity of FranK Zappa.

Only because you asked. I hope we can all get in a better mood and enjoy our deliveries that shoudl start arrivind at our doors tomorrow.

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According to the interview on this page, a 1974 show has been prepared for 5.1 also. I wonder if this is for a DVD Video of the KCET show or a different show intended for DVD-A release??

http://www.sweetwater.com/feature/filipetti/

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According to the interview on this page, a 1974 show has been prepared for 5.1 also. I wonder if this is for a DVD Video of the KCET show or a different show intended for DVD-A release??

http://www.sweetwater.com/feature/filipetti/


Glad you brougth this up Jayp. There are even more interviews out there to add to our N'Litenment. A good article is Cookin in the Fillipetti Kitchen. I think in time you will appreciate more of what Frank Fillipetti has done for the ZFT.

DVD-A is great but may very well be phased out. DVD-A makes use of 96Khz/24 bit HD Audio that itself is 1,000 times better than CD but with HD Master Audio on the horizon that would be even better where there is no need to compress the 96Khz/24 bit signal before it hits the out interface of the DVD-A player. The Bandwidth limitations of the DVD-A disk limit lossless HD Audio transer so it is compressed but still much better than CD or HDCD.

HD Master Audio in either blue laser format with a A/V receiver with a DTS Master decoder offers True Lossless 96Khz/24 bit in 7.1 HD Audio wher it will sound exactly as mixed in the studio. It remains in a 96khz/24 bit lossless 7.1 HD Audio Format from the player through the A/V receiver over HDMI 1.3 where finally a DAC in teh A/V receiver converts it for the speaker out interface. Frank Fillipetti is very much a leader in the movement of HD Audio. I am waiting for Sherwood or Denon to deliver A/V receivers with HD Master Audio Decoders in 2nd or 3rd Quarter 07'. As a nice gesture maybe one day I'll will invite you over to listen to some releases when I upgrade my system. Maybe we can mend some fences together. If you want to upgrade your A/V receiver look at the specs of the Sherwood R872 and R972 to get an idea on what is to come. I am sure the DACs in both will make your DVDs,CDs,MP3s,AUDs,SBDs and Pirated Recordings sound better.

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I was making a joke.


Sorry, I forgot to laugh...

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We were discussing the Recording Industry and their "taxation," right? Then you pointed out how foolish I am, without actually making a clear point. Thus, my response. There ya go.


Never told you were foolish, not implied nor explicitly.

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ANYWAY, enough. I agree with terransol (sp?) that this thread should be about the music.


Should have remembered that before making your rude joke...

BTW, leave my Hermeto Pascoal thread be as well, would ya? I don't want people with small minded attitude on those areas of the forum... If someone is in a bad need for a bath, it might be your brain...

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Tell me what I've cried about?


I do take objection with how some Fans act regarding the artistic integrity of Frank Zappa. you at times have been at the top of that list. If anyone wants to call me a cry baby about that or Gail's Snitch well so be it.

Now what you've cried about.

Jayp it's your avatar. Alot of your writings sound like that Jim Baker character who has just been caught inserting the tip. Why don't you change it to the Buffalo CD cover now that you have a Full Show.

Did not Gail Zappa once state she woudl not personaly sell you a DVD of The Dub Room Special. Come on Jayp you are a Zapap fanatic. I can appreciate that but just as some view my commentary as out there you calling Official Zappa releases Rehash or Samplers shows no respect to the artistic intergrity of FranK Zappa.

Only because you asked. I hope we can all get in a better mood and enjoy our deliveries that shoudl start arrivind at our doors tomorrow.


Trendy..... enough with the repeatitive use of the term artistic integrity. I have an opinion as a hardcore fan and these opinions are made out of a sheer love for all that this music has done for me and made me feel not some insult like YOU think. You are delusional. Do not put words into my mouth about what I feel about the music that has been with me for 32 of the 39 years of my fucking life.
To me yes, the Dub Room DVD was a rehash of something I had already owned for 20 years. So fucking what!! YOU are the only one hung up on the words used BY OTHERS to describe how they feel. The reason I felt that way about is the FACT that there are many things that we have been
waiting for for 12+ years to be released that were in fact completed and ready to be released by FZ but instead we got something "not new". That was my gripe. GET OVER IT!!

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I'm really looking forward to get the 1st officially released full show in my hands - BUFFALO seems to be just that!!!

And I'm especially looking forward to this:
03. The Torture Never Stops 23:36 YEAH YEAH YEAH!!!
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Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
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I was making a joke.


Sorry, I forgot to laugh...

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We were discussing the Recording Industry and their "taxation," right? Then you pointed out how foolish I am, without actually making a clear point. Thus, my response. There ya go.


Never told you were foolish, not implied nor explicitly.

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ANYWAY, enough. I agree with terransol (sp?) that this thread should be about the music.


Should have remembered that before making your rude joke...

BTW, leave my Hermeto Pascoal thread be as well, would ya? I don't want people with small minded attitude on those areas of the forum... If someone is in a bad need for a bath, it might be your brain...


Gawd, you are annoying. Just can't let it alone. Long-winded obssessive, ya put me to sleep. I got news for ya: Zappa Fan & Nerd are just about one in the same thing. It's changed a lot over the years but, uh, there sure were a hell of a lot of nerds in attgendance at Zappa shows. I was making a joke, ya self-important bore.. The Nerd description is no longer considered an insult. Nerds have gone on to rule the world. Weird Al has proven it yet again. Turning around and calling me a dickhead is, however, a direct insult. You may have noticed I don't care. You really need to get yourself a blog. There you can post an endless series of articles to show how enlightened you are and, gee, maybe someone will even think that you wrote them! Of course this all boils down to your blatant promotion and my dismissal of the Hermaphrodite, as evidenced by your above post. I'm sure I've bored everyone but you. Welp, you have inspired me to blow off work and head down to the go-go bar. There I will hand my dollars over to your Brasilian sisters who have had enough sense to get as far away from you as possible. Don't talk to me in future.


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There I will hand my dollars over to your Brasilian sisters who have had enough sense to get as far away from you as possible. Don't talk to me in future.


FUCK YOU, BITCH!

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....................back to the thread topic...

...Is it true that this is a combination of multi-track/SBD cassette masters? Is there a link to this information?


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Yesterday there was a whole bunch of additional information on the discography page, which seems to have been removed today...

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SPACEBROTHER wrote:
....................back to the thread topic...

...Is it true that this is a combination of multi-track/SBD cassette masters? Is there a link to this informnation?


Someone copied it over into this thread if it's no longer on the site.


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....................back to the thread topic...

...Is it true that this is a combination of multi-track/SBD cassette masters? Is there a link to this informnation?


Yesterday i noticed a detailed write up, I beleive in Music Is The Best Discography Dection where in FranK Zappa - Music Is The Best! Official Discography section the buffalo Web page had a write up that I no longer see.

http://www.zappa.com/fz/discography/2007buffalo.html

Anyhow maybe they decided to change the documentation on that until the release so we can thoruoughly enjoy the liner notes but it seems that the engineering jobs for that day were less than accomodating. I am sure the ZFT & frank Fillipetti did a superb job but as I stated I beleive several 24 track tapes and I Soundboard Cassette(s) may have been necessary to complete the Full Show. Who knows. Even if the circumastance on that day made for engineerign difficulties if two 24 track tape machines di not catch every second or ther was soem other unkown factor/problem with a given 24 track tape at any given moment on that show it may have been necessary to use a Cassette fro the soundboard for a segment to make the Full Show. i'll tell you this it did make mention that the tapes had to be baked.

Shhhh it wil be heare in a few days. Maybe a surprize is in store whe the liner notes wil reveal more about the production and difficult circumstance. i remember soem other interesting legal jargon but I am leaving that all out here.

jayp poots forth............ :wink:

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TRENDY STOP GIVING INCORRECT INFO!!!

Here's the real deal:

This was recorded Live at the Memorial Auditorium on 25 October, 1980, in Buffalo, NY.
“Oh,” says George Douglas, “the panties and bra tour.” On the phone he is suddenly right there right now 26 years later. George recalls it as a particularly brutal experience - “it was snowing like crazy, the coldest place I’ve ever been.” And that mixing from the set up onstage(!) was “pretty rugged.” And yet, for him touring with Frank Zappa remains a highlight in his lifelong career in Sound – an “amazing adventure with FZ totally all about the Music.” In order to put the concert together in its entirety we (UMRK) went “warts ‘n all” style with the 3 sources that George had available to cover the show: 2” 24 Track Machine / 1” 8-Track Machine / one cassette board tape. All the multi-track master tapes had to be baked in the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen convection oven prior to transfer. All of the transfers were done at UMRK. We then sent everything on a hard drive to Frank Filipetti in New York.



Is Trendy going to call this a "polished turd" now because a cassette SBD source was used??

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This was recorded Live at the Memorial Auditorium on 25 October, 1980, in Buffalo, NY.
“Oh,” says George Douglas, “the panties and bra tour.” On the phone he is suddenly right there right now 26 years later. George recalls it as a particularly brutal experience - “it was snowing like crazy, the coldest place I’ve ever been.” And that mixing from the set up onstage(!) was “pretty rugged.” And yet, for him touring with Frank Zappa remains a highlight in his lifelong career in Sound – an “amazing adventure with FZ totally all about the Music.” In order to put the concert together in its entirety we (UMRK) went “warts ‘n all” style with the 3 sources that George had available to cover the show: 2” 24 Track Machine / 1” 8-Track Machine / one cassette board tape. All the multi-track master tapes had to be baked in the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen convection oven prior to transfer. All of the transfers were done at UMRK. We then sent everything on a hard drive to Frank Filipetti in New York.



Is Trendy going to call this a "polished turd" now because a cassette SBD source was used??


Let's just say the ZFT did what they had to delvier this full show from the Heard. In 2007 the equipment used to make the polished turd segments of that Full Show are much better than they were during the Beat The Boots Polished Turd era. In the hands of a consumate professional, Frank Fillipetti, I am assured did magic his magic with 96Khz/24 bit Nuendo Files made at UMRK from all three sources. Where it states George had available to cover the show: 2” 24 Track Machine / 1” 8-Track Machine / one cassette board tape this Full Show Warts n' All I amagine the ZFT cooked and transfered it to Nuendo where Frank Fillipetti then worked on it.

I eagerly await the UPS delivery.

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This was recorded Live at the Memorial Auditorium on 25 October, 1980, in Buffalo, NY.
“Oh,” says George Douglas, “the panties and bra tour.” On the phone he is suddenly right there right now 26 years later. George recalls it as a particularly brutal experience - “it was snowing like crazy, the coldest place I’ve ever been.” And that mixing from the set up onstage(!) was “pretty rugged.” And yet, for him touring with Frank Zappa remains a highlight in his lifelong career in Sound – an “amazing adventure with FZ totally all about the Music.” In order to put the concert together in its entirety we (UMRK) went “warts ‘n all” style with the 3 sources that George had available to cover the show: 2” 24 Track Machine / 1” 8-Track Machine / one cassette board tape. All the multi-track master tapes had to be baked in the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen convection oven prior to transfer. All of the transfers were done at UMRK. We then sent everything on a hard drive to Frank Filipetti in New York.



Is Trendy going to call this a "polished turd" now because a cassette SBD source was used??


Let's just say the ZFT did what they had to delvier this full show from the Heard. In 2007 the equipment used to make the polished turd segments of that Full Show are much better than they were during the Beat The Boots Polished Turd era. In the hands of a consumate professional, Frank Fillipetti, I am asured this Full Show Warts n' All is everything I could expect it to be.

I eagerly await the UPS delivery.


What in the fuck are you talking about?? The BTB releases were DIRECT COPIES of the original bootleg LPs and were not made from any FZ tapes!! You do know that, right??

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This was recorded Live at the Memorial Auditorium on 25 October, 1980, in Buffalo, NY.
“Oh,” says George Douglas, “the panties and bra tour.” On the phone he is suddenly right there right now 26 years later. George recalls it as a particularly brutal experience - “it was snowing like crazy, the coldest place I’ve ever been.” And that mixing from the set up onstage(!) was “pretty rugged.” And yet, for him touring with Frank Zappa remains a highlight in his lifelong career in Sound – an “amazing adventure with FZ totally all about the Music.” In order to put the concert together in its entirety we (UMRK) went “warts ‘n all” style with the 3 sources that George had available to cover the show: 2” 24 Track Machine / 1” 8-Track Machine / one cassette board tape. All the multi-track master tapes had to be baked in the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen convection oven prior to transfer. All of the transfers were done at UMRK. We then sent everything on a hard drive to Frank Filipetti in New York.



Is Trendy going to call this a "polished turd" now because a cassette SBD source was used??


Let's just say the ZFT did what they had to delvier this full show from the Heard. In 2007 the equipment used to make the polished turd segments of that Full Show are much better than they were during the Beat The Boots Polished Turd era. In the hands of a consumate professional, Frank Fillipetti, I am asured this Full Show Warts n' All is everything I could expect it to be.

I eagerly await the UPS delivery.


What in the fuck are you talking about?? The BTB releases were DIRECT COPIES of the original bootleg LPs and were not made from any FZ tapes!! You do know that, right??


There are Bootlegs of Zappa material made from direct copies of FranK Zappa's SBDs.

Yes I do know that, but SBD Cassettes are at times used for bootlegs.
In the case with Buffalo I beleive that was transfered to Nuendo wher frank Fillipetti worked on it. in teh sections of that Full Show tha required usage of the Nuendo Files that were derived from the Cassette SBD Frank Fillipettin could weak that mix that in the project. Much diferent than your average SBD even if only a small wart section of SBD was used fro Buffalo.

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I bet the info on the website was pulled as they appeared to be the liner notes. That's why I didn't read 'em. May as well wait until it's in my greedy little hands.


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I bet the info on the website was pulled as they appeared to be the liner notes. That's why I didn't read 'em. May as well wait until it's in my greedy little hands.


Good point. The Brainpang is working well. Maybe as usual they wanted to keep the surprize for us. It's quite some story and I expect more liner notes to boot. Could have just been an oversight in web development decisions. I am not noting that mikey made an error here. HE did a great job with the website and I ahve yet to even coment on that. Kudos Mikey. I never expected anything less from you. Anyhow that initial inclusion could just have been an oversight by anyone involved.

I just hope a Fanaskeptasaureous mind does not start posting the ZFT withdrew that information because they think any given fan may not buy this release becasue they see Warts n' All as part of the production notes before usign their ears themselves on the Full Project.

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This was recorded Live at the Memorial Auditorium on 25 October, 1980, in Buffalo, NY.
“Oh,” says George Douglas, “the panties and bra tour.” On the phone he is suddenly right there right now 26 years later. George recalls it as a particularly brutal experience - “it was snowing like crazy, the coldest place I’ve ever been.” And that mixing from the set up onstage(!) was “pretty rugged.” And yet, for him touring with Frank Zappa remains a highlight in his lifelong career in Sound – an “amazing adventure with FZ totally all about the Music.” In order to put the concert together in its entirety we (UMRK) went “warts ‘n all” style with the 3 sources that George had available to cover the show: 2” 24 Track Machine / 1” 8-Track Machine / one cassette board tape. All the multi-track master tapes had to be baked in the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen convection oven prior to transfer. All of the transfers were done at UMRK. We then sent everything on a hard drive to Frank Filipetti in New York.



Is Trendy going to call this a "polished turd" now because a cassette SBD source was used??


Let's just say the ZFT did what they had to delvier this full show from the Heard. In 2007 the equipment used to make the polished turd segments of that Full Show are much better than they were during the Beat The Boots Polished Turd era. In the hands of a consumate professional, Frank Fillipetti, I am asured this Full Show Warts n' All is everything I could expect it to be.

I eagerly await the UPS delivery.


What in the fuck are you talking about?? The BTB releases were DIRECT COPIES of the original bootleg LPs and were not made from any FZ tapes!! You do know that, right??


There are Bootlegs of Zappa material made from direct copies of FranK Zappa's SBDs.

Yes I do know that, but SBD Cassettes are at times used for bootlegs.
In the case with Buffalo I beleive that was transfered to Nuendo wher frank Fillipetti worked on it. in teh sections of that Full Show tha required usage of the Nuendo Files that were derived from the Cassette SBD Frank Fillipettin could weak that mix that in the project. Much diferent than your average SBD even if only a small wart section of SBD was used fro Buffalo.


STFU and learn to fucking proof read your posts! They are already a waste of time as it is but then everyone has to try and figure out what you are really trying to say based on all the spelling errors! You are a nuisance!!

You still didn't address the original question..... what the fuck do the BTB releases have anything to do with Buffalo? You are making shit up AGAIN!!!

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FZ's guitar at its most obscene + Vinnie gone wild = I wonder what happens during the solos. 8)

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it's fucking magic.

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I bet the info on the website was pulled as they appeared to be the liner notes. That's why I didn't read 'em. May as well wait until it's in my greedy little hands.


Good point. The Brainpang is working well. Maybe as usual they wanted to keep the surprize for us. It's quite some story and I expect more liner notes to boot. Could have just been an oversight in web development decisions. I am not noting that mikey made an error here. HE did a great job with the website and I ahve yet to even coment on that. Kudos Mikey. I never expected anything less from you. Anyhow that initial inclusion could just have been an oversight by anyone involved.

I just hope a Fanaskeptasaureous mind does not start posting the ZFT withdrew that information because they think any given fan may not buy this release becasue they see Warts n' All as part of the production notes before usign their ears themselves on the Full Project.


You mean someone just like you? Mr Polished Turdmonger.

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This was recorded Live at the Memorial Auditorium on 25 October, 1980, in Buffalo, NY.
“Oh,” says George Douglas, “the panties and bra tour.” On the phone he is suddenly right there right now 26 years later. George recalls it as a particularly brutal experience - “it was snowing like crazy, the coldest place I’ve ever been.” And that mixing from the set up onstage(!) was “pretty rugged.” And yet, for him touring with Frank Zappa remains a highlight in his lifelong career in Sound – an “amazing adventure with FZ totally all about the Music.” In order to put the concert together in its entirety we (UMRK) went “warts ‘n all” style with the 3 sources that George had available to cover the show: 2” 24 Track Machine / 1” 8-Track Machine / one cassette board tape. All the multi-track master tapes had to be baked in the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen convection oven prior to transfer. All of the transfers were done at UMRK. We then sent everything on a hard drive to Frank Filipetti in New York.



Is Trendy going to call this a "polished turd" now because a cassette SBD source was used??


Let's just say the ZFT did what they had to delvier this full show from the Heard. In 2007 the equipment used to make the polished turd segments of that Full Show are much better than they were during the Beat The Boots Polished Turd era. In the hands of a consumate professional, Frank Fillipetti, I am asured this Full Show Warts n' All is everything I could expect it to be.

I eagerly await the UPS delivery.


What in the fuck are you talking about?? The BTB releases were DIRECT COPIES of the original bootleg LPs and were not made from any FZ tapes!! You do know that, right??


There are Bootlegs of Zappa material made from direct copies of FranK Zappa's SBDs.

Yes I do know that, but SBD Cassettes are at times used for bootlegs.
In the case with Buffalo I beleive that was transfered to Nuendo wher frank Fillipetti worked on it. in teh sections of that Full Show tha required usage of the Nuendo Files that were derived from the Cassette SBD Frank Fillipettin could weak that mix that in the project. Much diferent than your average SBD even if only a small wart section of SBD was used fro Buffalo.


STFU and learn to fucking proof read your posts! They are already a waste of time as it is but then everyone has to try and figure out what you are really trying to say based on all the spelling errors! You are a nuisance!!

You still didn't address the original question..... what the fuck do the BTB releases have anything to do with Buffalo? You are making shit up AGAIN!!!
Stop crying again Jayp I did answer. A SBD was used in this Warts N All Full show ffor it was necessary to get the Full Show. It spells it all out what the ZFT did baking them. While not noted here they transfer them to Nuendo 96khz/24 bit Files that frank Fillipettti does his work with. The ZFT never let Masters leave the confines of the UMRK. Tehy convert then to Nuendo 96Khz/25 bit Masters.

So the section of the Concert that required the Nuendo Files made from the SBD no matter if it was 10 seconds or 5 minutes they can be sonically improved to weave better with multi-track tape Nuendo Files to engineer the whole thing out. Frank Fillipetti can do so much more with Nuendo than what had been done with Beat The Boots Direct Transfers from the Bootlegs.

Soemtimes bootleggers used SBDs but they never used any sonic improvements. Really let's stop argueing now.

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